Animated Chart: The Smartphone Effect on the Camera Market
Jan 1, 2023 14:29:52 #
Jersey guy
Loc: New Joisey
Points in fact: We just returned from the holidays with one of our sons who lives in DC. The local Apple Store announced a session to be hosted by a Staff photographer from the Washington Post on how to use your Cellphone for photography. Anyone who wanders into Costco or similar stores selling appliances (TVs) cannot help but be blown away by the quality of the images that most TVs are capable of today. As one who grew up with 10" and 25" B&W TVs of the '50s and 60's, and who built a 25" Heathkit Color TV in '72, I have to admit to the fact that the image quality is as good as it can possibly be. Future TVs will only accentuate the "smart" part but not significantly improve the image. So it is with all technologies: they plateau out at some point. I think digital cameras are fast approaching that point. Any advances will be the processor and software, and maybe there's not a lot of wiggle room there, either. I get the impression that a lot of Hogs on here are boasting of their Post Processing skills and not the gear itself. Maybe the area of telephoto lenses is the big separator. Can we not envision a day when the technology built into Cells will yield a digital file that will let the "serious" photographer do what they currently do with their big guys?
The OP presented the notion that I have posted about — the manufacturers will be faced with dwindling revenues from their "entry level" (overpriced IMHO) digital models that underwrite the R&D overall. Are we to be left with $9K Leicas, $5K Nikon Z9 body only, $5K Canon R5 body only? Sorry, not in my league.
The OP presented the notion that I have posted about — the manufacturers will be faced with dwindling revenues from their "entry level" (overpriced IMHO) digital models that underwrite the R&D overall. Are we to be left with $9K Leicas, $5K Nikon Z9 body only, $5K Canon R5 body only? Sorry, not in my league.
Jan 2, 2023 18:21:02 #
photon-collector
Loc: Tampa Bay Area, Florida
Jersey guy wrote:
Points in fact: We just returned from the holidays... (show quote)
An image is an image. The fact that it was taken by Ansel Adams with an 8x10 view camera, or a Paparazzi with a speed graphic, or a cell phone....the image is either pleasurable or not. I think you are right. A great image is a great image, whether it came from a pocket camera, high price outfit, or cell phone.
Jan 2, 2023 18:29:14 #
jerold222 wrote:
An interesting perspective. This will really add fuel to the conversation about the future of Cameras.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/charting-the-smartphone-effect-camera-market/?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/charting-the-smartphone-effect-camera-market/?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Jan 2, 2023 21:14:43 #
billnikon wrote:
When a cell phone can do the following, I will sell my equipment.
Right on Bill,
Smartphones have decimated the point-and-shoot camera market, save for some high-end ones with pro features and pro prices that still sell.
But smartphones, and we all have them, wont be replacing the top tech pro-level cameras and high-end lenses for the serious hobbyists and the pros that make their living from photography.
My personal and corporate clients aren't paying me good money and expecting me to give them cellphone photos, LOL.
And all the AI tech in those smartphones with their tiny cameras and tiny lenses still wont match the ultimate resolution , detail and image quality of my 50mp fullframe Sony A1, and my 61mp fullframe Sony A7RIV. Especially for any viewing on anything beyond a small screen.
1) 61mp Sony A7RIV, Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN lens. The Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, California, USA. 24mm, ISO 200, f8, 1/80 second, handheld.
2) 50mp Sony A1, Sony 200-600mm lens, A Snowy Egret takes off from its watery perch on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St.Martin. 319 mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/4000 sec. handheld
3-4) 50mp Sony A1, Sony 200-600mm lens. A great White Egret bends its neck to clean its feather in Sint Maarten/St. Martin . First the full frame, then a tight crop from the same shot. Try doing that with a smartphone photo and see who well it holds up. 591mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/2000sec. handheld
5) 61mp Sony A7RIV, Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 lens. The Palace of Fine Arts, San Francisco, California, USA. 17mm, ISO 400, f4, 1/60 sec. handheld
6-7) 61mp A7RIV, Sony 135mm f1.8 GM lens. Brooke H. at sunset in the Valley of Fire, Nevada, USA. First the full frame and a tight crop from the same shot. You will not get this much resolution and detail in this tight a crop from any smartphone shot. 135mm, ISO 400, f3.5, 1/640 sec. handheld
Click on download to see the best image quality here.
Cheers and best to you all.
Jan 3, 2023 01:28:32 #
Bill_de wrote:
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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But how many people actually repeat?
Jan 3, 2023 07:05:37 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
But how many people actually repeat?
If you go back to page 1 on many long threads you will find some members who repeat themselves all the time. How many posts have you seen that start with, "Like I said before ..."
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Jan 3, 2023 18:12:30 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Right on Bill, img src="https://static.uglyhedge... (show quote)
An amazingly beautiful set 🔥🔥⭐🔥🔥
Jan 3, 2023 19:40:43 #
Bill_de wrote:
If you go back to page 1 on many long threads you will find some members who repeat themselves all the time. How many posts have you seen that start with, "Like I said before ..."
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I hear you, but I was referring to washing ones hair.
Jan 3, 2023 22:29:20 #
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