slovegren wrote:
Almost all my photography has always been travel photography. As I am getting older the long trips are over. I am thinking about macro photography. I bought a Canon RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM lens. From best I can tell I get a 1 to 1 image using this lens and a Canon R7 camera. What is the best ways to get closer to the subject. Are extenders or extension tubes effective or available or is it best to just crop in Lightroom? I know very little about this topic. Thanks for your input. Steve
The Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 is not able to do 1:1 on it's own... It's only capable of 1:2 or 0.50X magnification, half "life size". Some would argue that's not "true" macro level of magnification, but many lenses capable of 1:2 have been called macro over the years. You can add macro extension tubes behind the lens to push it to higher magnification, but frankly I wouldn't bother.
A 35mm lens is too short focal length for higher magnification macro photography. It will simply put you way too close to your subject. As it is, at it's native 1:2 magnification and closest focus, you will only have about 2.5 or 3 inches "working distance" between the front of the lens and your subject. If you push the lens to full 1:1 by adding an extension tube behind it, you'll have even less working distance. That won't work with a lot of live subjects and even with inanimate you will often have problem blocking light on the subject.
I suggest you consider a longer focal length for macro...
- Canon's best macro lens for the R-series cameras is the RF 100mm f/2.8 Macro IS USM, which not only gets to full 1:1 on it's own, it actually goes past it to 1.4:1 magnification! With this focal length, at 1X or life size magnification you can expect to have about 5 inches between the very front of the lens (without lens hood installed) and your subject. At the even higher 1.4X this lens is capable of doing on it's own, you'll have 3.5 or 4 inches of working distance. The Canon RF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM is on sale right now for $999 at authorized dealers (regularly $1399).
- A bit smaller, lighter and more affordable is the Canon RF 85mm f/2 Macro IS STM. Like your 35mm, this lens is a 1:2 capable lens on it's own. But the longer focal length will be more practical for a wide variety of macro and close up subjects. It will give more working room.... about 7 or 7.5 inches at the lens 0.5X magnification closest focus distance... or roughly 3 inches with macro extension tubes added to bring it to full 1.0X magnification.
- You also could adapt a Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro or EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro. Both are 1:1 capable and excellent macro lenses. These lenses are also "internal focusing", like the RF 100mm Macro lens. This means they don't grow longer when focused closer. Your 35mm and the 85mm mentioned above are not "IF" lenses. Their barrels extend quite a bit when focused closer, which can be another factor reducing working distance between the front of the lens and the subject. Something else unique to these two Canon EF 100mm Macro lenses, as well as the RF 100mm, is that there is option to add a separately-sold tripod mounting ring to each of them. This is very handy for tripod or monopod shooting and an unusual option at this focal length. No one else that I'm aware of makes or has made a macro lens shorter than 150mm that can be fitted with a tripod ring. (Canon makes one, more about that below.)
- Canon's MP-E 65mm Macro is a specialized lens. It's capable of ultra high magnification.. up to 5:1 or five times life size. It can fill your viewfinder with a grain of rice! However, it is ONLY a macro lens. It can do
no less than 1:1 (life size) magnification. It essentially picks up where many other macro lenses leave off. It also is manual focus only and is not an IF lens. It does include a tripod mounting ring and usually needs to be on a tripod because there is a lot of risk of shake blur at such high magnifications. I do not recommend the MP-E 65mm for someone just starting to shoot macro or for a first or only macro lens. (Do not confuse it with the excellent Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 USM Macro lens, which is a 1:1 lens for APS-C Canon DSLRs... nice and compact, but slightly short for some subjects.)
- There are third party macro lenses that are very good to excellent and can be adapted for use on your camera. Tamron's latest 90mm (model 017) is their very best version after more than three decades making previous, very good macro lenses. Sigma's 105mm rivals the legendary Nikon 105mm "Micro" lens. Tokina makes one of the most affordable 100mm macro lenses, though it's a little lower performance (image quality, focus speed) than the Tamron and Sigma. Also, the Sigma and Tamron are both IF lenses. The Tokina is not. As of now all these are only available in EF mount. So you'd need to adapt them for use on an R-series camera.
- There are also some manual focus/manual aperture third party macro lenses already being made for your camera. A lot of macro photographers prefer to use manual focus and settings, anyway. (But if you plan to also use the lens for non-macro work, you may prefer an autofocus lens.) There are manual focus/manual aperture lenses being made in RF mount that your camera uses, so no adapter would be needed. Of these, I would particularly take note of the Laowa 85mm, 90mm and 100mm "Ultra Macro" (by Venus Optics). Those are capable of very high magnification on their own... 2X or double life size.
There are even longer macro lenses... 150mm, 180mm and 200mm. However they are harder to hold steady... more likely to need a tripod (in fact, most of them include a tripod mounting ring). Partly this is due to the longer focal length. But also they naturally render very shallow depth of field, so are more likely to need to be stopped down, which in turn means using slower shutter speeds (and/or higher ISOs). While these longer macro lenses give even more working space that can be useful when shooting dangerous or very shy subjects, they're somewhat more specialized than a lens in the 90mm, 100mm, 105mm range I'm recommending.
There are lots of excellent books on the subject, if interested. John Shaw's Closeups in Nature is called "the bible of macro photography" by some people. It's an older book, from the days of film. But most of the principles remain the same in the digital age. If you can find a copy of it, I recommend it. Some other "old school" macro and close-up photography authors I recommend are Tim Fitzharris, Joe & Mary MacDonald, John & Barbara Gerlach, Heather Angel. Some of those may have been updated for digital, plus there are many more modern books about macro and closeup photography on Amazon, including some by authors I know such as Bryan Peterson and David Taylor. Another good source of books on these subjects is Thriftbooks.com, if you don't mind something someone else has already read! A closely related subject you might want to start exploring is "focus stacking", a multi-shot and post-processing technique used to overcome the limitations of depth of field at higher magnification.
Macro photography is a lot of fun. Good luck getting started.
P.S. Your R7 camera has an APS-C size sensor. It measures approx. 13x22mm. When we talk about 1:1 or "life size" magnification, that means the lens will render an area the same size as your camera's sensor: 13x22mm. To put that into perspective, the smallest coin in the U.S., the 10 cent dime is about 17mm diameter. So at full 1:1 it would fit on the longer axis of your camera's sensor, but will be cropped a little top and bottom. The 1:2 or half life size that your RF 35mm f/1.8 lens is capable of will be able to render a 26x44mm area on it's own. The U.S. 25 cent coin, a quarter, is about 24mm diameter. so would easily be photographed in its entirety at this level of magnification.
You asked about it... For best quality, my recommendation is always to crop your images in post-processing as little as possible. (Along the same vein, I also see no reason to ever use an in-camera crop or "digital zoom" or a lower quality image. You can always make a lower resolution copy of an image later... You can never
add resolution without some trade-offs.)