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Dec 22, 2022 11:11:57   #
BARRY COWAN
 
Retired CPO wrote:
WoW! I knew there were some old timers on here. But holy moly!


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Dec 22, 2022 11:18:32   #
KarenKaptures Loc: New Jersey
 
Orphoto wrote:
This forum is a fair cross section of photographers generally. Numerically less expensive consumer oriented cameras far outsell flagship or enthusiast models. That is reflected here. By and large the quality of work shared by others in the gallery and sub groups also runs at average levels.

You do no favors by inciting discussions as to brands. No one asked Picasso what brand of paint he used.


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Dec 22, 2022 12:00:59   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
LOL - the market, rather than UHH, says people prefer Canon digital cameras at a rate of 4.7 Canons to every 2.2 Sony to 1.8 Nikon.

But certainly, just reading the UHH squawk box, one would think the numbers are 8 Nikons to 1 each of Sony and Canon.


Thanks Paul

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Dec 22, 2022 12:08:43   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
deanfl wrote:
I blame Ken Rockwell. He promoted Nikon in the early days of digital. My first digital was the Nikon D40. I suspect I am not the only one here who started with a D40. Once invested in the system it made sense to continue. I don’t regret it at all.


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Dec 22, 2022 12:09:04   #
A. T.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
LOL - the market, rather than UHH, says people prefer Canon digital cameras at a rate of 4.7 Canons to every 2.2 Sony to 1.8 Nikon.

But certainly, just reading the UHH squawk box, one would think the numbers are 8 Nikons to 1 each of Sony and Canon.


Nikon glass has ALWAYS been superior.

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Dec 22, 2022 12:12:05   #
A. T.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't know but I wonder how can it be if Nikon is selling fewer cameras than Canon and Sony?


Some people throw out percentages and numbers hoping you won't validate them.

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Dec 22, 2022 12:22:40   #
JimRPhoto Loc: Raleigh NC
 
There might be one other consideration. With the Nikon system, you can use an adapter with no additional glass (thus maintaining the original intended focal length) so that all your older AI and AIS lenses can still be used. I was previously a Nikon AND Canon user, but narrowed down to Canon. The biggest disadvantage of the Canon DLSR models is that you can’t use the older FD lenses without an adapter with its own lens, which greatly changes the intended focal length. I think if I had to do it over, I would choose Nikon over Canon for that reason. I’m not at all dissatisfied with my current Canon DLSR setup, but looking back, that might be a reason for the UHH observation.
JimR

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Dec 22, 2022 12:24:13   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
Watosh wrote:
Sounds like you might be a "top model" Canon user.
I have Nikons. The "lower to mid-models". My budget doesn't allow for the "top models".
I have seen photos from "lower models", that, IMHO are as good or better that some of the "top models".


While I have a few higher level Canon lenses I have adapted them to be used on my Sony camera my budget is also not much either as all of my gear is bought used as my budget and or savings allows.
Most of my gear is purchased via police auction sites, although my Sony body was bought used from a photographer that contracted me to portray Santa Claus for a few photo sessions.
It was a lucrative season for us both.

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Dec 22, 2022 12:25:25   #
A. T.
 
John Maher wrote:
I suspect that UHH membership ranges from brand-new novices to top-of-the-line experts. Most of us are probably amateurs and we also span a broad range. I believe most have joined to learn and issues are not always limited by the brand or model they cite. It is difficult to understand why some experts would participate other than to share that knowledge. During the COVID lockdown, my brick-and-mortar camera store hosted free zoom sessions with experts from various manufacturers. I attended all brands and these company spoke-persons usually identified equivalent terms from other brands.

While some, especially pros, can afford the latest and greatest, I suspect most of us are striving for and achieving above average results using equipment based on personal needs and cost priorities. I do remember one pro still used a camera several generations old because he knew it so well and it satisfied all his needs -- even had it refurbished rather than upgrade.

The more I learn, the less I know.
I suspect that UHH membership ranges from brand-ne... (show quote)


You know, I really love this forum and those who participate in it. I sometimes say stuff to intentionally irritate certain ones and stir up conversations but it's ALWAYS for fun and NEVER personal. These guys and gals here on this forum are responsible for the knowledge that I've gained throughout the years and I have been Blessed to be a part of this wonderful group of people......thanks.

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Dec 22, 2022 12:49:00   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
chikid68 wrote:
I have noticed (around here at least) the trend of photographers is to favor Nikon cameras over Canon or other brands.
The irony is that they are not even using the top models but rather a basic cropped sensor model.
Is this an indication of better quality or just minimal budget.


A few short years ago I bought a Sony a99II that had a full frame sensor with 41.4 mp's. it cost me over three grand.
It is very sensitive to light and I rarely need a flash.
I put on a 28 to 300mm lens and have wonderful experiences with the pictures that I take all over the world.
I did just buy a fixed lens camera - a Sony RX10IV. It has a cropped sensor and it's mirrorless.
It does pretty good but when out traveling I still stick to my Sony a99II for really great pictures.



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Dec 22, 2022 13:23:57   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
When you see more of something than you should, given the statics being the opposite, it’s bias confirmation. I’ve bought 2 vehicles this year. With each I noticed a huge number of the same vehicles. That doesn’t mean there are more of them it means that since I have a particular model I notice more that are the same. It’s remarkable how many Honda CR-V’s and Dodge 4door short box pickups there are now that I have one. This is why anecdotal evidence is mistrusted and mis-used. My friend bought a Nikon for college because his dad’s drug store had the local Nikon franchise and was the Kodak stock house dealer. Every time he came home from college he had a long list from his fellow film and tv classmates. I had a Canon graduation gift and naturally stayed with the brand, buying an F-1 in ‘72. Lens and accessories were well represented, anything you wanted was available. At that time Nat Geo used Nikon as the in house cameras and lenses, then later changed to Canon which confirmed my bias. My friend now uses Canon though I’ve never asked him why. He’s coming for Christmas dinner so I’ll know then. Fords v Chevy. Polaris v Skidoo. Canon v Nikon. Harley v Honda. They are ageless and endless arguments. I have to note that the camera body is the gateway drug, the lenses are the addiction.

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Dec 22, 2022 13:27:18   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
LOL - the market, rather than UHH, says people prefer Canon digital cameras at a rate of 4.7 Canons to every 2.2 Sony to 1.8 Nikon.

But certainly, just reading the UHH squawk box, one would think the numbers are 8 Nikons to 1 each of Sony and Canon.


That might be so but Nikon has all the buzz. And the Z9 is the current heavyweight champ.

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Dec 22, 2022 13:28:02   #
texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas
 

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Dec 22, 2022 13:37:19   #
MJPerini
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't know but I wonder how can it be if Nikon is selling fewer cameras than Canon and Sony?


Pretty simple really, UHH is a highly skewed audience age wise (I'm 76) when we were young Nikon was IT.
All my film cameras were Nikons. Still have them. My first experience with a DSLR was a D70 I bought for My daughter. I was impressed. When I decided to go Digital, I didn't buy NIKON because the line I kept hearing from Nikon Reps was, FF is unnecessary, when I seemed to me that FF was inevitable and Canon already had Full Frame.
So I Bought Canon's then flagship 1Ds Mk III 21MP when Nikon's top camera was a 12 MP crop D2 series with a nice but slow CCD sensor. Canon had gone to CMOS
My Daughter still shoots Nikon professionally and is still happily using several D3s bodies
There are no cameras being made today that can't produce great results. You should use what appeals to you and not worry about what other people use. It really doesn't matter much.

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Dec 22, 2022 14:08:49   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
chikid68 wrote:
I have noticed (around here at least) the trend of photographers is to favor Nikon cameras over Canon or other brands.
The irony is that they are not even using the top models but rather a basic cropped sensor model.
Is this an indication of better quality or just minimal budget.


Camera choices are limited mostly by budget considerations. Many folks here (not all by any means) grew up shooting Nikon, and Canon. So, folks tend to stick with the brand, but not always.
I have been a 50+ year Nikon professional shooter who has recently switched to Sony.
Again, camera purchases are done mostly on price, affordability, followed closely by desire. The desire may be there, but the funds are not. If the funds and desire match, that's a win win.
When I shot professionally, I bought what I considered the best, so I shot Nikon and Hasselblad on weddings.
Now, because of the advances in mirrorless camera's, I shoot Sony and a Olympus OM-1 that has a pre-shot feature for wildlife photography.

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