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chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA

I've noticed it because since I portray Santa Claus in a variety of settings and most venues book a photographer I work with several ones through the season and most of the time it's a consumer grade Nikon pointed at me.
Although I always bring my Sony with an adapted Canon 24-70 f2.8 lens for my own portfolio shots before the children arrive.

PGJR Loc: 33868

I shoot with Nikons because that's the brand I started with 45 years ago. I spent 3 weeks in AZ, CA & Ne & I saw only one person using a DSLR all the others were using their phones.

John Maher Loc: Northern Virginia

I suspect that UHH membership ranges from brand-new novices to top-of-the-line experts. Most of us are probably amateurs and we also span a broad range. I believe most have joined to learn and issues are not always limited by the brand or model they cite. It is difficult to understand why some experts would participate other than to share that knowledge. During the COVID lockdown, my brick-and-mortar camera store hosted free zoom sessions with experts from various manufacturers. I attended all brands and these company spoke-persons usually identified equivalent terms from other brands.

While some, especially pros, can afford the latest and greatest, I suspect most of us are striving for and achieving above average results using equipment based on personal needs and cost priorities. I do remember one pro still used a camera several generations old because he knew it so well and it satisfied all his needs -- even had it refurbished rather than upgrade.

The more I learn, the less I know.

R.G. Loc: Scotland

If you check out performance figures on sites like DXOmark, Nikon and Sony run roughly neck-and-neck while Canon, Fujifilm, Olympus and Panasonic are less of a presence. However, with Nikon you get Sony levels of performance at a cheaper price point and with better ergonomics and simpler, more user-friendly menu systems. Sony sometimes wins out when it comes to bells and whistles but they're roughly equal when it comes to basic capabilities.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

Twelve or so years ago, I volunteered at our local arboretum. I was in positions where I interacted with our visitors both formally and informally. At that time, there was a very clear trend...those who came to the arboretum to photograph people used Canon cameras, and those who came to photograph flowers used Nikon.

Four or so years ago, I participated in a couple of night sky photography workshops during two consecutive summers. Nikon cameras were more prevalent than Canon at both workshops, and the Canon users had more problems getting good results.

Lately I see females almost exclusively with Canons, and males predominately with Nikons.

I believe that Nikon has made some strategic decision errors over the past 12 or 15 years that has hurt them quite a bit compared to other manufacturers. These decisions have impacted their place in the market. (I worked for many years for a semiconductor company that made a bunch of similar bonehead decisions.) Two of those that were most obvious to me were

--Leaving the DX "prosumer" spot vacant for several years between the discontinuance of the D300s and the introduction of the D500. (And no...the D90 did not fill that gap. I have one, converted to IR. In no way does the D90 fill the role that a D400 or whatever would have filled. Its operation is nothing like operation of the D300/300s or D500)
--Having a serious discontinuity between the operating interface of the beginner and consumer cameras (especially D3xxx and D5xxx) and the operating interface of cameras higher in the hierarchy. There has been no meaningful progression path within the consumer line, and no natural transition from the consumer line to the more capable models.

Strategic blunders are surprisingly common among very technically competent companies. Sometimes they are recoverable, sometimes not. It will be interesting to see what happens in Nikon's case, because it is not yet obvious to me that they understand what the real problem actually is. I see them working pretty hard and even raising a pretty good-sized cloud of dust. I don't see them understanding the issue. The key is to stop making those knee-jerk decisions that cause more self-injury than correction. It's like our local transit agency...when ridership drops a little, their canned response is to cut service. And when they do that, ridership drops even more as previous customers seek other options to reliably get to work or wherever they need to go.

Fortunately, I have everything I need to do whatever photography I want to do. If stuff wears out or breaks, I'll either find another way or find a different subject to photograph. That lets me watch the game objectively, without having to stress over what happens.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

DXO is a subsidiary of Sony/Nikon.
They base their reports on purely subjective parameters.
PS Canon far outsells Sony and Nikon. So why is it the by far preferred camera system if it is so crappy?
Also lens rentals put out the most lenses and cameras rented and again Canon was far ahead and Nikon was virtually not even represented.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

From what I've been reading over the years I've been a UHH member, your observation is not as accurate as you may believe it to be.
Canon is still the number one camera manufacturer with a market share that dwarfs Nikon. Odds are that same trend is reflected in the gear owned by UHH membership.
I'm not saying Canon is better than Nikon, I own and use both.
My current daily shooters are my Nikon D850, Canon R5 and Canon R7. I have not retired my Canon 5D mk IV or Nikon D500, but they don't get used as much as they used to.
Of the cameras I mentioned, 3 are Canon and 2 are Nikon, 3 are full frame and all 5 are top shelf models, not the basic models you are referring to.
I consider myself to be an average UHH member, and not a professional photographer. Just a person who likes taking photos and enjoys having and using good gear. I also rarely post images to UHH. The only person I'm trying to impress is me.

flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT

Really?

Prove it.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

This is something everyone knows but you?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

All I found was DXO<mark> is its own entity.

steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida

gwilliams6

Exactly,

gwilliams6

LOL but not when just counting mirrorless camera preferences, where Sony outsells Canon mirrorless and Nikon mirrorless, worldwide. CIPA numbers confirm that.

But it is more age as a factor here in UHH. People here that have been shooting a long time, historically started out with Nikon when they were THE brand, and they have been loyal and stuck with Nikon.
FYI, I shot Nikon and Canon pro gear for over four decades, both brands.

As far as pros, the major News Services have ditched their Nikon and Canon DSLRs and moved to Sony mirrorless overwhelmingly.

Associated Press, Canadian Press, UK Press, all Gannett media including USA Today have all moved exclusively to Sony mirrorless for their staff photographers and staff videographers worldwide in the past 24 months.

AFP (Agence France Presse) helped develop and test the Nikon Z9 and uses the Z9 for their staffers worldwide. None of these major news services has stayed with Canon DSLRs or moved to Canon mirrorless, none.

And not for any special financial deal from Sony but for better rate of innovation, reliability and proven experience in fullframe mirrorless .

Listen to them in their own words, this is the new reality in the pro world:
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Cheers and best to you.

flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT

No, it's just another outrageous anti-anything but Canon claim from Archie.