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Dec 11, 2022 05:47:40   #
ELNikkor
 
When I set my D5100 to jpeg, Neutral, it just takes a photo without adjusting color or contrast, if I leave all other adjustments alone. I put the SD card in my computer and copy/paste the image into my folder for that month. What could be more "SOOC" than that? Now, if I set the same camera to "Standard", it slightly bumps up the contrast and color saturation, but does not exaggerate anything very much. If I put the image it takes into the folder on my computer the same way I did with the "Neutral" file, I still have an SOOC image that just looks a little "snappier", because I did nothing to modify the image AFTER it was taken and removed from the camera.

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Dec 11, 2022 05:58:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
ELNikkor wrote:
When I set my D5100 to jpeg, Neutral, it just takes a photo without adjusting color or contrast, if I leave all other adjustments alone. I put the SD card in my computer and copy/paste the image into my folder for that month. What could be more "SOOC" than that? Now, if I set the same camera to "Standard", it slightly bumps up the contrast and color saturation, but does not exaggerate anything very much. If I put the image it takes into the folder on my computer the same way I did with the "Neutral" file, I still have an SOOC image that just looks a little "snappier", because I did nothing to modify the image AFTER it was taken and removed from the camera.
When I set my D5100 to jpeg, Neutral, it just take... (show quote)


The point is even at neutral your D5100 is producing a JPEG that is processed by the camera to what the programmer thinks is what you might want. SOOC is still heavily processed behind the scenes and what you see is what some engineer likes or is told you like.
Every maker has a different formula for the look they want, some are bold some are less so but ALL are different and heavily processed.
That is just the way digital is to get it so you can see it rather than just some code.

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Dec 11, 2022 06:54:21   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
It is my understanding that a JPEG image with no post processing is a SOOC.

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Dec 11, 2022 07:55:43   #
medphotog Loc: Witness protection land
 
rmalarz wrote:
Archi, here's a SOOC from my 4x5. No processing whatsoever. Not much to look at but SOOC.
--Bob


It's been ages (and I'm too lazy to even think about looking it up) is that FP4? I wonder how many youngins would even know sheet film what those notches were/are for and how it was processed. Not to mention 2 sheets per holder unless you had one of those snazzy Graphmatic film holders so you could have a "six shooter."

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Dec 11, 2022 08:09:41   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
rmalarz wrote:
Archi, here's a SOOC from my 4x5. No processing whatsoever. Not much to look at but SOOC.
--Bob



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Dec 11, 2022 08:24:27   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Consider that with some cameras, you can set them to capture both the RAW file and JPEG file at the same time. Cull files later.
Architect1776 wrote:
Can one post SOOC if only shot in raw?
I have to convert to JPEG which involves some modification.
Also does a JPEG SOOC have various preset processes or styles applied by the camera that otherwise would be done in post?

In other words what is SOOC?

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Dec 11, 2022 08:35:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
anotherview wrote:
Consider that with some cameras, you can set them to capture both the RAW file and JPEG file at the same time. Cull files later.


I believe most all of us are aware of that.

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Dec 11, 2022 09:06:14   #
L-Fox
 
Longshadow wrote:
My definition also - Whatever comes OUT of the camera, no matter what may be done to it while IN the camera.


Abso.damn.lutely

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Dec 11, 2022 09:19:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
l-fox wrote:
Abso.damn.lutely


Why is it presented as a badge of honor or superiority to say SOOC?
Just show the photo and be done with it unless you did some interesting PP and want to share and enlighten what was done.

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Dec 11, 2022 09:29:45   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Ysarex wrote:
I think SOOC means what it says: Straight Out Of Camera -- the image produced by the camera's image processor, simple as that.

Most cameras produce JPEGs for their final image but there are a few that can also produce a TIFF file. Either would be SOOC.

Re-processed by the camera is also SOOC. Many cameras now permit you to save raw files and later re-process those raw files in the camera using the camera's image processor. Those are likewise SOOC.

Fuji has an interesting twist on that using their XRaw Studio computer app. XRaw Studio requires that you cable connect the camera to the computer. The app gives you an easier to use interface but the camera processor still does the processing work. You get no additional processing functionality from the computer app. Those images are SOOC.

I don't think SOOC in any way precludes using the processing features/functions of the camera. If the camera can alter contrast or color saturation etc. that's a camera processing function and included in SOOC.

Some camera vendors offer computer raw processing apps that will re-create a camera JPEG from a raw file eg. Canon's DPP or Nikon's NX Studio. Here SOOC can begin to stray from a precise definition. Both DPP and NX Studio provide additional functionality beyond what the camera provides. Use those functions and your image is not SOOC. Other questions in this case would be does the computer version use the same demosaicing or noise processing as the camera, etc.? For example Canon for many years before they managed to include DLO in most of their cameras nonetheless provided it in DPP. So if you had an old Canon Tx without DLO and ran your raw files through DPP and got a better result by applying DLO your image wasn't honestly SOOC.
I think SOOC means what it says: Straight Out Of C... (show quote)


πŸ‘πŸ‘

Stan

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Dec 11, 2022 09:42:36   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Can one post SOOC if only shot in raw?
I have to convert to JPEG which involves some modification.
Also does a JPEG SOOC have various preset processes or styles applied by the camera that otherwise would be done in post?

In other words what is SOOC?


SOOC is just what it says: Straight Out Of Camera. It does not, in any way whatsoever, mean unprocessed, even though there are many who use it in that fashion apparently to prove (to themselves mostly) that they are superior photographers. Any image coming out of a camera, film or digital, is processed.

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Dec 11, 2022 09:48:03   #
BebuLamar
 
SOOC is fine for me because I really don't do much in term of editing but it would be a pain for me. Why? Because if I want to do SOOC I would have to take a shot. Put the pic on my computer see what's wrong. Then adjust the camera picture settings, color temp, sharpening level, etc.. and take another shot and the repeat the cycle until I am happy with the result while my subjects would be gone.

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Dec 11, 2022 09:56:11   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Archi, here's a SOOC from my 4x5. No processing whatsoever. Not much to look at but SOOC.
--Bob




Looks like an image of unprocessed film.

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Dec 11, 2022 10:11:30   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
The images, jpgs, that I import from my memory cards in my Nikon Z50 and D7100 to PSE, are what I believe to be SOOC's.
If and when I edit the copy layer which I will later file and/or export as jpg , or print, is a copy. The original jpeg remains or is used again as a SOOC.

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Dec 11, 2022 10:29:13   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
rmalarz wrote:
Excellent point, or a badge of over-inflated ego on the part of the person posting.
--Bob


I get the impression that people who want to point out that β€œmy” image is SOOC think they are better photographers than those that say they β€œneed” to process their image in post. I fail to understand the boast. I think I am grumpy this morning.

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