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Dec 10, 2022 15:51:12   #
Dik
 
Qimage is a program for windows that will let you schedule maintenance prints. It will also let you purge only selected colors.

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Dec 10, 2022 21:34:27   #
Jklovell Loc: Rock Hill, SC
 
I love mine. So much so that I bought the pro-4100 too.

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Dec 10, 2022 21:35:46   #
TonyBot
 
burkphoto wrote:
Smart people NEVER buy an inkjet printer to save money. It isn't about that at all.

If you buy an inkjet printer, you want the following:

IMMEDIACY — You need a print RIGHT NOW.

PERMANENCE — You need ultimate print longevity with freedom from fading five times better than silver halide chromogenic prints from traditional photo labs, as tested by Wilhelm Imaging Research.

PRIVACY — You have subject matter that must be kept away from the general public. Maybe it's corporate trade secrets like the next iPhone, or maybe it's porn or spy work. Printing your own can keep the prints within a limited circle of confidants, whatever your purpose.

SUBSTRATES — You want to print on all sorts of different papers, canvas, art board, and maybe other surfaces.

COLOR and TONE — You manage your own color from end to end to make stunning art prints for sale or exhibition. There is no technology better than pigment inkjet printing for that purpose. It offers the widest possible tonal and color gamut when you print from 16-bit files, straight out of Lightroom Classic or Photoshop.

CONTROL — This is really a summary word. "Inkjet printing" are the last two words in the control freak's photo printing vocabulary.

Frankly, good pigment inkjet printing is the most EXPENSIVE form of photo printing most of us will ever do. IMHO, it is also the most satisfying.

I ran the digital departments of a major portrait lab for five years. Our inkjet prints were made on three 44" Epson printers. They were the highest quality prints we sold, and they were five times more costly to make and buy than silver halide prints. We made them only in sizes larger than 12x18 inches. Yet those printers ran 20 hours a day or more in peak season, printing class composites for senior classes, fraternities and sororities, sports teams, bands, and other groups, and for high school and college senior portraits. They were capable of subtle color and tonal gradations not possible with any of our conventional silver halide equipment, whether optical or digital.

Don't buy inkjet to save money. You'll be sorely disappointed in how costly it is, if you do.

One more note: DO manage color with proper tools. It can save you a fortune in inks, paper, and time consumption. Calibrate a worthy graphic arts monitor with a color calibration kit once a month. Test it to match your printer closely. Then enjoy the best prints you've ever seen.
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burkphoto sums it up very succinctly, but I'm going to add my 2¢ worth:

Printing your own work will *never* - repeat - *never* cost you less. Please, do not by an inkjet printer for that reason.

When you have the 'control', as Bill states, if you're like most of us, you may print two or three or even more times before you get the results you want. When you find that happening to you, make sure you have a box or two of 4x6 or 5x7 paper (in each of your favorite flavors) always available - for making and critiquing "proofs".

But, nothing is more satisfying than to have made the print, from 'click' to 'PP' to 'print' yourself!

My philosophic ramblings aside - I have had a Pro-10 for about six years, with nary a mechanical problem or ink clogging issue. The Pro-300 is the pigment ink replacement for it. I would recommend it highly.

(And, a friend of mine makes his living servicing wide format [as in 24" to 60"] Epsons. He states that the most common problem is clogged printheads, and that they have to be run almost daily to prevent it.)

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Dec 10, 2022 22:16:18   #
dkeysser Loc: Minneapolis
 
Thanks. You have helped convince me to with the Pro-300. And I agree that saving money is not the reason to buy your own printer. It is the gain in control and ultimate quality that is driving me.

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Dec 11, 2022 00:06:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
TonyBot wrote:
burkphoto sums it up very succinctly, but I'm going to add my 2¢ worth:

Printing your own work will *never* - repeat - *never* cost you less. Please, do not by an inkjet printer for that reason.

When you have the 'control', as Bill states, if you're like most of us, you may print two or three or even more times before you get the results you want. When you find that happening to you, make sure you have a box or two of 4x6 or 5x7 paper (in each of your favorite flavors) always available - for making and critiquing "proofs".

But, nothing is more satisfying than to have made the print, from 'click' to 'PP' to 'print' yourself!

My philosophic ramblings aside - I have had a Pro-10 for about six years, with nary a mechanical problem or ink clogging issue. The Pro-300 is the pigment ink replacement for it. I would recommend it highly.

(And, a friend of mine makes his living servicing wide format [as in 24" to 60"] Epsons. He states that the most common problem is clogged printheads, and that they have to be run almost daily to prevent it.)
burkphoto sums it up very succinctly, but I'm goin... (show quote)


I'll agree with all of that.

Epsons produce incredible results, but they thrive on constant HARD use. They do not like to sit. More correctly, the INK does not sit well. Pigment settling is what causes head clogs. The pigment settles in the lines, the solvent dries out, and clogs happen.

The other thing that happens with Epson is when you switch from Epson ink to some third party inks, a precipitate forms in the lines to the heads and in the heads themselves. It is like superglue! DO NOT EVER run third party ink in an Epson after running Epson ink in it. It WILL clog. The only times we had a problem with clogging in the lab were after a week shutdown, and when the guy who ran the large format print area for me ordered some off-brand ink. $1730 later, we had new heads in the 9600... along with new ink cartridges and new feed lines to the print heads. When we shut down for a week, we did have to run a head cleaning routine or two to get things clear again.

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Dec 11, 2022 03:00:18   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
dkeysser wrote:
Guys, I am planning to buy my own printer, capable of up to 13x19. I am considering the Canon imagePROGRAF PRO-300. Does anyone have experience with this printer, good or bad? Any recommendations on other choices? The PRO-1000 is probably too large, heavy and expensive. What about the Epson P900?

Thanks in advance.


I have a Canon MP 970 Pixma. Print, Scan, Copy. I bought it 12–14 years ago, prints great photos. Ink cartridges are pricey now, the unit was a bit expensive back then but the Peanuts & Monkies theory kicks in.
I’ve never had problems with it, ink is hard to find now. Like the unit, almost extinct.
I reckon Canon make the best, been around a while.

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Dec 11, 2022 10:07:58   #
Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll agree with all of that.

Epsons produce incredible results, but they thrive on constant HARD use. They do not like to sit. More correctly, the INK does not sit well. Pigment settling is what causes head clogs. The pigment settles in the lines, the solvent dries out, and clogs happen.

The other thing that happens with Epson is when you switch from Epson ink to some third party inks, a precipitate forms in the lines to the heads and in the heads themselves. It is like superglue! DO NOT EVER run third party ink in an Epson after running Epson ink in it. It WILL clog. The only times we had a problem with clogging in the lab were after a week shutdown, and when the guy who ran the large format print area for me ordered some off-brand ink. $1730 later, we had new heads in the 9600... along with new ink cartridges and new feed lines to the print heads. When we shut down for a week, we did have to run a head cleaning routine or two to get things clear again.
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Excellent information. I alway use Epson ink with my two Epson printers for those reasons. Purchased from Amazon at good pricing,.

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Dec 11, 2022 17:36:27   #
dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'll agree with all of that.

Epsons produce incredible results, but they thrive on constant HARD use. They do not like to sit. More correctly, the INK does not sit well. Pigment settling is what causes head clogs. The pigment settles in the lines, the solvent dries out, and clogs happen.

The other thing that happens with Epson is when you switch from Epson ink to some third party inks, a precipitate forms in the lines to the heads and in the heads themselves. It is like superglue! DO NOT EVER run third party ink in an Epson after running Epson ink in it. It WILL clog. The only times we had a problem with clogging in the lab were after a week shutdown, and when the guy who ran the large format print area for me ordered some off-brand ink. $1730 later, we had new heads in the 9600... along with new ink cartridges and new feed lines to the print heads. When we shut down for a week, we did have to run a head cleaning routine or two to get things clear again.
I'll agree with all of that. br br Epsons produc... (show quote)


Each of the two times Epson replaced my ET 7750 under warranty, they supplied two sets of ink bottles. AS a result, I had lots of Epson ink. I used the printer as my main printer so it got a lot of use producing full color pages. I replaced the sump tank so it never over filled. The printers still failed four times.

I discovered that the printer takes a count of how many print passes it makes. After a certain count, it is designed to stop and then requires a replacement of the ink-head carriage motor. Until the printer failed the fourth time the motor worked. Even after I got the 000101 error code it did the initialization dance and then displayed the failure code.

My printer lived in a small office that is clean and the door is kept closed to keep our cats away. There is no possible way that it died because of abuse. It was just a crappy printer. I am completely done with Epson.

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Dec 18, 2022 21:11:29   #
PhotoPhred Loc: Cheyney, Pa
 
I have an ancient, by today's standards, canon Pixma Pro 9000 mk2 and a Canon Pixma pro 100. Sometimes they will sit for months without use. I turn them on, load paper, up to 13 x 19, and away I go.

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Dec 18, 2022 22:51:40   #
dkeysser Loc: Minneapolis
 
Thanks

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