What kind of photo is this?
Nov 19, 2022 09:13:32 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
13 wrote:
I thought I'd colorize it for you...just to see how it looked. Hope you don't mind.
This looks like a wedding portrait, possibly of the bride and her father (but could be the groom). So, I doubt the gentleman would be wearing maroon pants and brown shoes for such a formal sitting. Was there something in the photo that prompted that color choice when colorizing?
Stan
Nov 19, 2022 09:18:40 #
Nov 19, 2022 09:22:13 #
robertjerl wrote:
It shows the relative "rank" in the society of the time. The most important person seated, like a throne, and the other person standing in a supporting position.
I am afraid that you are right. One reason I am usually unhappy to find out more about my relatives from the past that I never knew. Many seem to turn out to have been mean, jerks, or vile. I may check some of they extremely rare photos of my earlier relatives and see how many MCPs there were.
Nov 19, 2022 09:25:28 #
elee950021 wrote:
PhilS! br br Back in the day (we retired in 2008)... (show quote)
Is there an easy way to tell if it is a Silver Gelatin or Silver Egg Albumin print?
Nov 19, 2022 09:28:09 #
13 wrote:
I thought I'd colorize it for you...just to see how it looked. Hope you don't mind.
Interesting and nice result.
Nov 19, 2022 09:33:04 #
PhilS wrote:
I recently came into possession of some old family... (show quote)
Do be careful removing any old prints from a glass fronted frame. The photograph might easily be damaged.
Nov 19, 2022 09:47:14 #
PhilS wrote:
I recently came into possession of some old family... (show quote)
The "silvering" may be just that. If the paper were improperly fixed in nearly exhausted fixer and insufficiently washed (proper fixing and washing normally removes silver), then residual silver would eventually migrate to the surface. I have prints I made as a kid that look like this now. They were made before I learned proper techniques in the darkroom.
The paper is probably normal, double-weight, fiber-based paper of the time. Double weight papers retained more fixer and took longer to wash. A hasty darkroom worker may have pulled the print from the wash early, to save water or meet a customer deadline.
Nov 19, 2022 10:00:07 #
Zooman 1 wrote:
interesting, why is he setting, and she is standing?
I wonder the same thing. I have several old photos, one or two dating back to the late 19th century and I believe the man is always the one sitting.
Nov 19, 2022 10:40:36 #
PhilS wrote:
I recently came into possession of some old family... (show quote)
These two shown together like this imply someone did a great photo restoration.
Nov 19, 2022 10:56:39 #
MCHUGH
Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
As E.L.. Shapiro said in his response the problem is silvering. I did many copies of old pictures when I was in business and this was a very common problem. As he said you can use polorized light and a polrrizing filter and remove all the silvering showing. The polorized light and filter was very useful with the some of the old paper that had texture to it. You could eliminate any reflection causing trouble. Try this on your print and you will be very pleased with the result.
Nov 19, 2022 13:13:52 #
delder
Loc: Maryland
13 wrote:
I thought I'd colorize it for you...just to see how it looked. Hope you don't mind.
Great job of Colorization!
Seems like a lost art.
I remember back in the 50's/60's all the big department stores had Photo Departments, and you could
have old/not so old B&W prints colorized. This was a popular service back then, when many were still shooting B&W.
Nov 19, 2022 13:26:47 #
lamiaceae wrote:
I am afraid that you are right. One reason I am usually unhappy to find out more about my relatives from the past that I never knew. Many seem to turn out to have been mean, jerks, or vile. I may check some of they extremely rare photos of my earlier relatives and see how many MCPs there were.
Don't judge people of the past by our modern standards. They grew up in that culture, they didn't make a decision to be that way, they lived in a time when it was normal.
On the other hand in that day and age the man was expected to put himself between the women, children and old people and any threat/danger and die standing there defending them if necessary. Many today would not even consider doing that, but back then it was also part of normal.
Nov 19, 2022 13:32:25 #
tropics68 wrote:
I wonder the same thing. I have several old photos, one or two dating back to the late 19th century and I believe the man is always the one sitting.
And in a large family group or similar, the one sitting would be the patriarch or boss. I have seen ones where the eldest man and his wife were seated and all the younger people standing. I remember one in which the Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother were seated, the rest of the family was standing ranked behind them, and the Great Grandmother was holding the newest/youngest baby in her lap. If I remember right, the caption stated that baby was their first Great Great Grandchild and their Great Granddaughter (the mother and still a teenager) was just behind her.
Nov 19, 2022 13:56:20 #
fetzler
Loc: North West PA
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
The photograph was made on chloro-bromide paper an... (show quote)
E.L. has it pretty much correct. I have many old photographs and a few are like this.
Copy the photograph using a copy stand. Place a piece of glass over the photo to hold it flat or use a scanner.
The scanner is faster but you have more control with the raw file made with a camera. You can select the color channels on your image to assist making the image better. Generally select the blue channel or a mixture of the blue and green channels.
Nov 19, 2022 14:10:33 #
fetzler
Loc: North West PA
I don't find it necessary to colorize such photos as the original tones have a beauty of their own.
The coloring of wardrobe of the man is not correct. Brown socks would not be worn with black shoes. The man's suit is likely black. Black everything. There is a possibility that the pants were gray (rather dark).
The woman's flowers are likely pink and this is a traditional color and the flowers are of a light tone. White is also common.
The coloring of wardrobe of the man is not correct. Brown socks would not be worn with black shoes. The man's suit is likely black. Black everything. There is a possibility that the pants were gray (rather dark).
The woman's flowers are likely pink and this is a traditional color and the flowers are of a light tone. White is also common.
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