Hard drive or ssd storage?
Nov 15, 2022 14:50:38 #
DavidThompson
Loc: Asheville, NC
I just decided to upgrade to a new computer with a faster processor, graphics card and 4 TB CCD. My LR photos are under 1 TB. Currently, when I do a backup (old computer)it takes about 24 hrs and then again for the 3rd backup spinner. I worry that a long copy time period has a greater probability of a power blink or whatever. I’m also considering also using LR (cloud) so I’m not the only one responsible for backing up (so to speak). I have not used LR (cloud) but hope I will like it and be less worried.
Nov 15, 2022 14:53:57 #
mikee wrote:
I've recently purchased a gaming computer for photo editing. It has a 1 tb ssd for the operating system. My preference is to use an external drive for my data storage and not fill up my internal ssd. I see that one can purchase an 8 tb ssd on ebay new for under $50, or go name brand for half the capacity and $400. Should I get another external hard drive (mechanical) or external ssd? Does brand name matter? Thx.
Don't believe you can buy an 8TB for $50 that will be any good. Way way too cheap. Caution
Nov 15, 2022 15:00:01 #
DavidThompson wrote:
I just decided to upgrade to a new computer with a... (show quote)
If your backup is taking 24 hours (!), it sounds as if you are doing a complete backup of the disk. While you need to do that once (the first time), you should be backing up incrementals (changes and new files since last backup) after that, and that should cut your backup window dramatically. How often do you back up? And are you backing up to a local disk, over your network, or via the internet to the cloud?
Nov 15, 2022 15:00:40 #
jerryc41 wrote:
SK Hynix was the brand I thought was iffy, but apparently, it's a major company. It was founded in 1949 in Taiwan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Hynix
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Hynix
Wow, never heard of them.
But then I don't go looking for drives often, and stick with what I know is reliable.
Nov 15, 2022 15:09:28 #
Mr. SONY wrote:
ALL drives eventually fail, spinning drives just f... (show quote)
I have probably a dozen hard drives that I removed from old computers. I use some for backups, but "extra" backups.
I like the enclosures that hold four drives. Some can be used for NAS, but I have a couple just for random backups.
I didn't like the cooling of this YottaMaster, so I added two fans to the top.
Nov 15, 2022 18:07:40 #
Mr. SONY
Loc: LI, NY
That's so box you have there.
My drive collection is so boring.
Tomorrow I'll post a boring picture.
My drive collection is so boring.
Tomorrow I'll post a boring picture.
Nov 15, 2022 18:17:04 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
jerryc41 wrote:
I have probably a dozen hard drives that I removed from old computers. I use some for backups, but "extra" backups. I like the enclosures that hold four drives. Some can be used for NAS, but I have a couple just for random backups. I didn't like the cooling of this YottaMaster, so I added two fans to the top.
I think my 2 month old great grandson could make a prettier job than this. Couldn't resist.
Nov 15, 2022 18:39:29 #
chrissybabe wrote:
I think my 2 month old great grandson could make a prettier job than this. Couldn't resist.
Pretty and functional are completely different things.
Nov 15, 2022 18:43:50 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
DirtFarmer wrote:
Pretty and functional are completely different things.
Or they can be the same and safer !
Nov 15, 2022 18:54:28 #
Nov 15, 2022 19:16:03 #
photoman43 wrote:
My computer guy does not recommend SSD drives for long term storage unless they are plugged in (turned on) from time to time as activation from time to time is needed to insure that data is not lost.
This is not true. The charge on the floating gate of the flash memory cell is established at write time. Powering up the part will have no effect on this charge. What does happen with the charge is that it can bleed away, very, very slowly, and can reach a point where a flash cell loses its programmed state. Some cells may also have a lower impedance and can lose their charge faster, but this would show up as a bad bit that might be repaired on-the-fly with error detection and correction as long as the device has not exceeded the number of bad bits it can correct per sector.
I suspect that your computer guy is somehow mixing up DRAM with flash memory. DRAM is volatile, and when power goes away, the contents of the memory goes away. But when it is powered up, the charge is stored on tiny, tiny capacitors which are recharged during refresh cycles. And as long as this continues to happen, the data remains intact.
Nov 15, 2022 19:26:55 #
Buy a small fan, about 3 inch and a metal external hard drive enclosure case that holds a 3.5 inch enterprise drive, and a large enterprise HDD, like a 12 TB or 14 TB. Slide the HDD into the case, and then attach it to your computer. Turn the fan on to cool it, and you will have a cool system for external backups.
Something like these two items: (Drive not shown):
https://www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/s3510bmu33
https://www.trevahome.com/product-page/3-5-compact-fan-with-ac-adapter?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjJnPubWx-wIVxCdMCh2ZwQ3oEAQYASABEgLkvfD_BwE
Something like these two items: (Drive not shown):
https://www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/s3510bmu33
https://www.trevahome.com/product-page/3-5-compact-fan-with-ac-adapter?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjJnPubWx-wIVxCdMCh2ZwQ3oEAQYASABEgLkvfD_BwE
Nov 15, 2022 19:28:59 #
Longshadow wrote:
Wow, never heard of them.
But then I don't go looking for drives often, and stick with what I know is reliable.
But then I don't go looking for drives often, and stick with what I know is reliable.
Yes, Hynix is a very reputable manufacturer of flash memory. I have traveled to their manufacturing facilities in South Korea a number of times.
Actually, there are only a handful of manufacturers in the world that manufacture flash memory. The fabs are very expensive. The equipment needed is very expensive. The expertise of the engineers and fab people are critical.
Where one can find less than stellar quality is in the 3rd parties that buy the Known Good Die from one of the known manufacturers and insert it into their own packaging with a memory manager of unknown quality.
Nov 15, 2022 20:53:38 #
JimH123 wrote:
Yes, Hynix is a very reputable manufacturer of fla... (show quote)
I didn't know they were flash. I thought the conversation I was in was about hard drives.
Nov 15, 2022 21:08:13 #
Longshadow wrote:
I didn't know they were flash. I thought the conversation I was in was about hard drives.
SSD's are made using Flash memory. And the discussion involves SSDs vs Hard Drives for storage.
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