Help me decide
Nov 12, 2022 19:33:34 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
runakid wrote:
Wondering after reading some of Steve Perry's eboo... (show quote)
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Morrorless and its advantages is not new. Most digital cameras were "perfected" for most uses fifteen years ago. Most brands. And mirroless advantage is in enlarged view and critical focus. But I doubt that internal critical focus is better---only to your eye and if you touch it up manually in the enlarge view. So--buy an older mirrorless like something from Sony or maybe Olympus and use you Nikon Dslars for your ordinary heavy duty bread and butter work.-----------------ew
Nov 12, 2022 20:25:13 #
Nov 12, 2022 20:50:25 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
water falls wrote:
My D500 works great for BIF ,its more about technique and lens.
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I believe in different bodies and lenses for different shooting and have seven different camera bodies between Sigma, Sony, and Olympus--and with duplicate bodies---11 and add a few P&Shoots makes 13 ready to go digitals---with all the many different batteries. Film photography was much easier!----ew
Nov 12, 2022 22:31:37 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Once again spouting on about stuff you have little knowledge about. In none of my mirrorless bodies is there any discernible lag. As a matter of fact with my Z9 and OM-1 it is much easier to track BIF because there is absolutely no shutter blackout. It looks just like shooting video.
EVERY mirrorless camera I have used has EV lag and it is a serious problem for BIF ----NOT talking at all about blackout ! I have been using mirrorless LONG before you......
Nov 12, 2022 22:55:24 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
imagemeister wrote:
EVERY mirrorless camera I have used has EV lag and it is a serious problem for BIF ----NOT talking at all about blackout ! I have been using mirrorless LONG before you......
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I don't want to sound stupid----but what does BIF stand for?----------------
Nov 12, 2022 23:23:19 #
Nov 12, 2022 23:44:42 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
imagemeister wrote:
Birds In Flight ....
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Thanks. I can see an enlarged electronic viewer would help with that as well as a high ISO without static so that one would achieve more depth of field with stopping down a long focus lens. But as much as the body plays a role, so does the lens focus motor technology. If you use continuous spot focus with both a great speed focus lens, and a up-scale DSLR---plus a tripod---one should achieve sharpness. But then a good anti shock body might help give a higher F: stop by not needing such a high shutter speed to counteract shock. That leaves the only advantage I can see to the mirrorless that you can check and tweek the focus in an enlarged viewer---but you might not have time anyway for "brid in flight?"------------ew (P.S.---half my camera bodies are mirrorless.)
Nov 13, 2022 02:50:59 #
imagemeister wrote:
EVERY mirrorless camera I have used has EV lag and it is a serious problem for BIF ----NOT talking at all about blackout ! I have been using mirrorless LONG before you......
Well you have no idea how long I’ve been using mirrorless and I could care less how long you have. Maybe that’s your problem. Your using old mirrorless cameras. I currently actively use both the Z9 and OM-1 for BIF and they track brilliantly. My E-M1X and Z7 also have no problem except the Z7 doesn’t focus fast enough. I also use your end-all-be-all camera, the Sony RX10MIV and it’s great for BIF shooting from a kayak. Something I could never do with my DSLR’s.
Nov 13, 2022 03:03:20 #
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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There are huge advantages for BIF with the current crop of mirrorless cameras. Every major player has bird identification focus that with continuous focus will recognize it’s a bird, focus on its eye if possible and track the bird as long as you keep it in the frame. They also have much faster frame rates. And now Nikon and I think Sony are copying a feature Olympus and Panasonic have had for years, when you half press the shutter it starts buffering and when you fully press it it will save a certain number of frames from before the full press and keep shooting after.
Nov 13, 2022 08:32:03 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I currently actively use both the Z9 and OM-1 for BIF and they track brilliantly. .
Congrats
Nov 13, 2022 09:52:53 #
JeffL
Loc: New Jersey
I just don’t get this issue. Photographers have been shooting BIFs for decades, with everything from P&S cameras, old film cameras, DSLRs, and even mobile phone cameras It takes patience, skill and practice, regardless of the kit used. If you can’t get it done with a D850, what makes you think that using a mirrorless will make it happen?
Nov 13, 2022 10:59:56 #
JeffL wrote:
I just don’t get this issue. Photographers have been shooting BIFs for decades, with everything from P&S cameras, old film cameras, DSLRs, and even mobile phone cameras It takes patience, skill and practice, regardless of the kit used. If you can’t get it done with a D850, what makes you think that using a mirrorless will make it happen?
Speed of AF and FPS and, probably better exposure = higher keeper rate
Nov 13, 2022 18:05:28 #
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WHAT WOULD YOUR MOTHER HAVE SAID. Sorry about the Caps, not yelling. Dale
WHAT WOULD YOUR MOTHER HAVE SAID. Sorry about the Caps, not yelling. Dale
Nov 13, 2022 18:49:32 #
Bill_de wrote:
Have you ever shot a bird if flight with your curr... (show quote)
If it's on edge, get an Olympus OM1 and the 150-400/f4.5. Guaranteed, you will get shots you can't get with either of the Nikons.
Nov 13, 2022 19:26:06 #
RodeoMan
Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
dalbers wrote:
Don't be unkind. Superiority flashing only makes you look. immature.What do you think you really accomplished? Think you did and good? Dale
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