bwana wrote:
Did you even read and understand my comment? Memory stick NOT RAM!
bwa
When Jerry said 2 8GB sticks is better than 1 16GB he meant the RAM DIMM. Many people do call the RAM DIMM stick. He didn't meant the USB thumb drives.
Where did you come from ? You are sadly lacking in computer knowledge to even ask that question.
Memory sticks fit into memory slots. The original discussion was why or how do you plug memory sticks into a motherboard. And I answered it exactly why you plug memory sticks (or RAM chips or DRAM cards or whatever you want to call them) into a motherboard a certain way, and the disadvantages of not doing it correctly.
Memory sticks contain RAM mounted on them !
Not to put too fine a point onto it I suggest you do a technical course 101 on computers.
BebuLamar wrote:
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I consider myself chastised. When I wrote my reply it was directly under his so I didn't bother. Have the same problem other places when a reply comes in after theirs but before yours gets published so I guess to a 3rd party it might be unclear as to who was being replied to. Although I suspect in this case you could have worked backwards to see who was not understanding how a computer works.
bwana
Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
BebuLamar wrote:
When Jerry said 2 8GB sticks is better than 1 16GB he meant the RAM DIMM. Many people do call the RAM DIMM stick. He didn't meant the USB thumb drives.
Never heard them referred to as 'memory sticks' in my decades of using/building computers BUT you learn something every day...
bwa
bwana wrote:
Never heard them referred to as 'memory sticks' in my decades of using/building computers BUT you learn something every day...bwa
Wait until you get some people referring to their hard drive size as the computers memory.
Every CPU has a memory controller. The memory controller can have any number of channels with 2 being the most common for consumer PCs. For the best performance, you match the number of memory sticks to the number of channel with 1 stick per channel. This is why most memory is sold as a 2 stick kit. With 2 sticks and 4 slots, the manual will guide you how to populate the slots. The High End Desktop motherboards (Xeon cpus and X299 chipset) have a 4 channel memory controller.
I don't really know exactly what is the reason but I followed the instructions from HP
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/HP-Z600-Workstation-memory-configuration-and-optimization.pdfMy computer has 6 slots and 2 CPUs. It came with 12GB with 2GB in each slot. I put 6 8GB, one 8GB in each slot.
It appears that each CPU has 3 channels of memory and the channel 1 must be filled first. They said it's best to fill all 3 channels because the CPU then operates with 3 channels of memory. Each CPU has 3 slots and if you only have 1 CPU only 3 slots can be used.
Realize we are talking about turning 50 cents into 52 cents here.
I doubt anyone would notice the difference...
A better memory speed will make much more of a difference.
Pretty much all electronic gear which is component based...is a marriage of parts.
You can get everything to run with almost any gear within reason....but the best is when everything is in the synergy with each other.
Two memory sticks enable the use of Dual Channel technology.
Dual Channel is the feature that allows the chipset or processor to communicate with two memory channels simultaneously. The memories work simultaneously and provide twice the data width of the bus. The common of DDR memories is to work with the incredible amount of 64 bits, but with the Dual Channel feature, this value “doubles” and stays in 128 bits.
In general the cpu chip can get information twice as fast with two. It is like two lanes instead of one can handle more traffic.
Surprisingly it is very hard to find any information on real world speed increases by interleaving. I used to know all this stuff 20-30 years ago but have forgotten it. Heaps of articles on what interleaving is with lots of theoretical info on how fast it theoretically is but nothing, that I could find, on actual overall system performance improvements as found in the real world. My vague feelings are that real world performance on average might be 10-20% (none of this doubling etc frequently seen) only which is still worth having since it is 'free'.
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't really know exactly what is the reason but I followed the instructions from HP
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/HP-Z600-Workstation-memory-configuration-and-optimization.pdfMy computer has 6 slots and 2 CPUs. It came with 12GB with 2GB in each slot. I put 6 8GB, one 8GB in each slot.
It appears that each CPU has 3 channels of memory and the channel 1 must be filled first. They said it's best to fill all 3 channels because the CPU then operates with 3 channels of memory. Each CPU has 3 slots and if you only have 1 CPU only 3 slots can be used.
I don't really know exactly what is the reason but... (
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Yes!
You are using 6 core Xeon chips. 12 threads!
Those other lesser computers are running only 2 or maybe 4 cores.
Their ram is more efficient in pairs, ours are best in triplets.
*THIS* system contains a pair of X5675 3.0ghz chips. 2tb SSD. No slow!
The CPUs depend on which rev mobo you have: rev 1 boards 55xx series,
rev 2 board 55xx and 56xx series; 5690s should but don't work!
EZ PZ upgrades!
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