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Oct 5, 2022 19:04:13   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
burkphoto wrote:
In general, used printers are a bad deal. They are often worn out or not working, or old enough that parts and driver software are no longer available.

The MARKET LIFE of a printer is between one year for unpopular models to five years for more popular and professional models. Companies tend to sell ink for about five years after that. Software support usually ends when the operating system is upgraded in some major way, or three to five years after the last printer of that model left the factory.

All of that is to say, I start budgeting for my next printer when I buy one. I buy printers when they have been on the market for about six months, so most of the kinks are worked out, and reviewers have had time to evaluate them. All of the home printers I've ever owned "died" from lack of use. If they sit for any significant length of time, the ink dries out and clogs the lines to the heads, or it clogs the heads themselves. Brother, Canon, Epson, and HP, Lenovo... they all clog eventually. Ink lasts about six months once it is opened, and only about two years from date of manufacture. Pay attention to the expiration date on the box. It really matters.

If you buy a printer for home use, it will serve you best if you use it very frequently, as in once or twice or more times per week. Don't let it sit! At least run a test page weekly.
In general, used printers are a bad deal. They are... (show quote)


Excellent advice. I no longer have an inkjet printer. I have had numerous ones over the years, and they all eventually clog up. Plus, they go through ink at such an alarming rate.

I keep a B&W laser printer for general printing only. And they never clog up. But they are not for printing images.

So, I use printing services instead for pictures.

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Oct 5, 2022 19:36:14   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
tcthome wrote:
Same here. Pro 100, = love it. Had a Canon i560 general pupose printer a while back. Couldn't kill it but Canon stopped selling the ink for it.


That's funny I had a 530 that was at least 13 years old. Sat in the garage after I moved and a mouse set up house. I decided to fire it up right before I got my ts860 and by golly it still worked. I use precision Colors for my ink and they also supplied ink for the 530 and the ts860 along with my pro-100. Very very happy with their products.

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Oct 5, 2022 20:58:44   #
Goldyrock
 
I also have a Pro 100, and a spare. Jose Rodriguez, the printing guru has one that is 9 years old with the original head. He recently installed a CISS system from Ink Products. and it appears to be working well. The results are beautiful.

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Oct 6, 2022 08:36:01   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
burkphoto wrote:
Do you have one for sale, or are you considering buying one?

In general, used printers are a bad deal. They are often worn out or not working, or old enough that parts and driver software are no longer available.

The MARKET LIFE of a printer is between one year for unpopular models to five years for more popular and professional models. Companies tend to sell ink for about five years after that. Software support usually ends when the operating system is upgraded in some major way, or three to five years after the last printer of that model left the factory.

All of that is to say, I start budgeting for my next printer when I buy one. I buy printers when they have been on the market for about six months, so most of the kinks are worked out, and reviewers have had time to evaluate them. All of the home printers I've ever owned "died" from lack of use. If they sit for any significant length of time, the ink dries out and clogs the lines to the heads, or it clogs the heads themselves. Brother, Canon, Epson, and HP, Lenovo... they all clog eventually. Ink lasts about six months once it is opened, and only about two years from date of manufacture. Pay attention to the expiration date on the box. It really matters.

If you buy a printer for home use, it will serve you best if you use it very frequently, as in once or twice or more times per week. Don't let it sit! At least run a test page weekly.
Do you have one for sale, or are you considering b... (show quote)


I bought a very inexpensive Canon all-in-one printer over 6 years ago for home use. It always has performed extremely well!!! I sometimes use it several days running for a number of prints - or maybe scans, but frequently it's 2 or 3 months between uses for anything. I always have used Canon ink and have not ever had even one problem!!! I am totally sold on Canon products! (My cameras are Canon, also.) (And the printer does a nice job on color photograph prints, with no calibration of anything, ever!!!)

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Oct 6, 2022 08:39:53   #
coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA
 
kcj wrote:
Does anyone buy used epson 960 photo printers


Anytime you sell a used printer, it’s a must to provide a recent nozzle check to show non of the nozzles are clogged.
Otherwise, I’ve sold several of my retired printers.

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Oct 6, 2022 09:01:07   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
I have a pro-100 and a Pro1000, and never had any issues with clogging on either of them - even after prolonged periods of little to no use. (I know, shame on me).

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Oct 6, 2022 09:20:36   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rlv567 wrote:
I bought a very inexpensive Canon all-in-one printer over 6 years ago for home use. It always has performed extremely well!!! I sometimes use it several days running for a number of prints - or maybe scans, but frequently it's 2 or 3 months between uses for anything. I always have used Canon ink and have not ever had even one problem!!! I am totally sold on Canon products! (My cameras are Canon, also.) (And the printer does a nice job on color photograph prints, with no calibration of anything, ever!!!)

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City
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That's fine. I used Canon gear (and Nikons and 12 other camera brands) off and on for years. It all did the job. If you like the results, it's probably because of the sRGB standard that does a "decent*" job of matching consumer monitors to consumer cameras and consumer printers, so long as no one changes settings away from factory defaults. Canon Print Studio Pro is especially good for folks who want pro quality prints from their PIXMA Pro printers.

*"Decent" may be defined differently, depending on your standards.

I've come from a photo lab environment where we had to match over 78 devices to each other, so customers would not ask questions like, "Why does CocaCola Red look suspiciously like Corvette Red?" and "Why does this canvas print look so mute compared to this print on cotton rag paper?" or "Why do these plastic student ID cards have purple backgrounds when we know the background is blue?"

We calibrated and profiled nine color correction department monitors to match each other and a "master" printer, and calibrated and profiled the other printers to match the master printer as close as their technologies (silver halide, Xerographic, dye sublimation, ink jet) would allow. That saved us hundreds of thousands of dollars in wasted labor, materials, opportunity costs, remakes, etc.

We had a few Canon Desktop photo printers in offices. They did work great, but there was one that kept clogging black and yellow inks. Canon took it back.

We had an industrial strength 44" Epson 9600 that ran 20 hours/day, 6 days weekly. It never clogged until the purchasing agent got a "deal" on off-brand inks. It clogged a day after we started using the cheap inks. After a head replacement and switching back to OEM inks, it lasted three more years until we replaced it with a much better, newer Epson.

I have a two-year-old EcoTank 4700 Epson at home that works fine, so long as we keep it busy. Let it sit for a couple of weeks, and it might need a head cleaning. The problem is, we don't print enough to use the ink before it goes bad, so although the ink is cheap (relatively!), having the deep tanks presents challenges of its own. (I need to go make some prints, soon!)

All ink has chemicals in it that keep it liquid. Eventually, the liquid components evaporate, leaving a solid...

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Oct 6, 2022 09:30:02   #
ddgm Loc: Hamilton, Ontario & Fort Myers, FL
 
I have a Canon Pixma Pro 9000 that must be 15 years old and have used 3rd party inks since the OEM ones ran out When we had a winter home in Florida it sat for 6 months for 10 years and has never failed to work. I know I just jinxed it by saying that. If I think of it, I run a test page through every once in a while. I also have had a laser printer for everyday printing, currently using a Lexmark B2865.

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Oct 6, 2022 12:09:58   #
alvin3232 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Hello
My 2 cents, I have been buying HP printers for 20 years and every last printer I have bought from Deskjet to Inkjets and laser printers all have come with CDs. In your case, it could have been a one-off, and even to this day I only purchase HP printers. So it has worked out for me.

Alvin

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Oct 6, 2022 12:20:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
alvin3232 wrote:
Hello
My 2 cents, I have been buying HP printers for 20 years and every last printer I have bought from Deskjet to Inkjets and laser printers all have come with CDs. In your case, it could have been a one-off, and even to this day I only purchase HP printers. So it has worked out for me.

Alvin


Few computers come with optical disc drives these days, because the Internet is a much better way to source media of all types.

Why? CDs are obsolete the day they are burned. That is why every self-respecting company writing device driver software puts their latest device driver software on the Internet, on their company website, usually on a "Product Support" or "Downloads" page.

Even when your printer/scanner/camera/whatever comes with CDs, you should download and install the latest updates from the manufacturer's website. These updates often fix critical bugs in the original software, add features, improve existing features, update documentation, update device firmware...

Few computers come with optical disc drives these days, because the Internet is a much better way to source media of all types.

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Oct 6, 2022 12:55:42   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Few computers come with optical disc drives these days, because the Internet is a much better way to source media of all types.

Why? CDs are obsolete the day they are burned. That is why every self-respecting company writing device driver software puts their latest device driver software on the Internet, on their company website, usually on a "Product Support" or "Downloads" page.

Even when your printer/scanner/camera/whatever comes with CDs, you should download and install the latest updates from the manufacturer's website. These updates often fix critical bugs in the original software, add features, improve existing features, update documentation, update device firmware...

Few computers come with optical disc drives these days, because the Internet is a much better way to source media of all types.
Few computers come with optical disc drives these ... (show quote)


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Oct 6, 2022 13:45:04   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
burkphoto wrote:
That's fine. I used Canon gear (and Nikons and 12 other camera brands) off and on for years. It all did the job. If you like the results, it's probably because of the sRGB standard that does a "decent*" job of matching consumer monitors to consumer cameras and consumer printers, so long as no one changes settings away from factory defaults. Canon Print Studio Pro is especially good for folks who want pro quality prints from their PIXMA Pro printers.

*"Decent" may be defined differently, depending on your standards.

I've come from a photo lab environment where we had to match over 78 devices to each other, so customers would not ask questions like, "Why does CocaCola Red look suspiciously like Corvette Red?" and "Why does this canvas print look so mute compared to this print on cotton rag paper?" or "Why do these plastic student ID cards have purple backgrounds when we know the background is blue?"

We calibrated and profiled nine color correction department monitors to match each other and a "master" printer, and calibrated and profiled the other printers to match the master printer as close as their technologies (silver halide, Xerographic, dye sublimation, ink jet) would allow. That saved us hundreds of thousands of dollars in wasted labor, materials, opportunity costs, remakes, etc.

We had a few Canon Desktop photo printers in offices. They did work great, but there was one that kept clogging black and yellow inks. Canon took it back.

We had an industrial strength 44" Epson 9600 that ran 20 hours/day, 6 days weekly. It never clogged until the purchasing agent got a "deal" on off-brand inks. It clogged a day after we started using the cheap inks. After a head replacement and switching back to OEM inks, it lasted three more years until we replaced it with a much better, newer Epson.

I have a two-year-old EcoTank 4700 Epson at home that works fine, so long as we keep it busy. Let it sit for a couple of weeks, and it might need a head cleaning. The problem is, we don't print enough to use the ink before it goes bad, so although the ink is cheap (relatively!), having the deep tanks presents challenges of its own. (I need to go make some prints, soon!)

All ink has chemicals in it that keep it liquid. Eventually, the liquid components evaporate, leaving a solid...
That's fine. I used Canon gear (and Nikons and 12 ... (show quote)


I did not say "decent"!!! (which is a result of lesser quality, I believe!) I said that my printer does a "nice job on color prints" (which to me means it produces a very good picture - without all the fuss and bother of continually calibrating everything!!!). I guess my ink may evaporate some day, but that day has yet to arrive, fortunately!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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