Help with reflective ground in action picks
Nov 27, 2012 21:11:09 #
One other note Birdguide.
I think your second picture is quite well done. Especially considering what you were dealing with. Your shutter was fast enough to freeze the feet on the horse. I would say you were at 1/500 or better. Your aperture was open a good bit. The depth of field appears right.
One other point. Dark green backgrounds look good in this type of photo. If you can position yourself in the shoot to get less of everything else and more of the jumper you'll be better off. It may not be possible. Most any photographer that shoots events will tell you ... Look at the background... Look at the light.
Happy shooting.
I think your second picture is quite well done. Especially considering what you were dealing with. Your shutter was fast enough to freeze the feet on the horse. I would say you were at 1/500 or better. Your aperture was open a good bit. The depth of field appears right.
One other point. Dark green backgrounds look good in this type of photo. If you can position yourself in the shoot to get less of everything else and more of the jumper you'll be better off. It may not be possible. Most any photographer that shoots events will tell you ... Look at the background... Look at the light.
Happy shooting.
Nov 27, 2012 21:21:59 #
ace-mt wrote:
Stupid me....I shoot horses :shock:
CaptainC wrote:
Umm....there is white in the picture?? I do see a little red....very little red.
Stupid me....I shoot horses :shock:
Hi ace-mt, as you can see I'm still trying to shoot horses to and since we don't have rodeos around here at this time of year this is good practice, I'm going to be parked on my belly this weekend shooting horses and looking for the ben-gay when I get home.
Nov 27, 2012 21:24:41 #
PalePictures wrote:
One other note Birdguide. br I think your second p... (show quote)
I am going to be very busy trying all this stuff out on Saturday, thanks again for taking the time to comment and helping a newbie see the light......Look at the Light.
Nov 27, 2012 21:47:35 #
CaptainC wrote:
Umm....there is white in the picture?? I do see a little red....very little red.
And that is too much red!
Nov 27, 2012 22:25:41 #
Nov 28, 2012 05:29:22 #
Asking the forum - would a CPL help cut the glare or would it slow the action?
Nov 28, 2012 08:14:20 #
Some where in that picture is water....if you stare at it long enough you can find it....
Nov 28, 2012 08:15:54 #
ace-mt wrote:
Stupid me....I shoot horses :shock:
CaptainC wrote:
Umm....there is white in the picture?? I do see a little red....very little red.
Stupid me....I shoot horses :shock:
yep!
Nov 28, 2012 09:27:43 #
I'm very familiar with the problem as I shoot horse shows on the West side of the state. I ran into the white sand arena unexpected a couple weeks ago as I had never shot in this arena. I had arrived early enough to do some tests and found the best was a polarizing filter. So glad it was a bright day so I didn't lose the shutter speed for the jumpers, hunters and barrels. I did find on white horses I had to adjust the aperture a full stop in the light and sand. Most arenas have grass or some darker combination and I found by shooting up just a little to take out more of the white beach sand it helped by just over 1/2 stop. Many of the events have been going inside due to the heat and now moving outside more and more. Good luck and I suggest just arriving a little earlier if you are not familiar with the arena.
Nov 28, 2012 10:02:36 #
Nov 28, 2012 10:34:04 #
You guys with DSLRs are the experts here so I bow to your knowledge. In the old days of film and stuff . . . . we used an incident light meter for this kind of situation (in fact for almost any kind of situation). As these events go on all day, with possibly changing light conditions, maybe an incident meter would save a lot of grief?
We're not talking big bucks here when you consider what you pay for your equipment.
We're not talking big bucks here when you consider what you pay for your equipment.
Nov 28, 2012 11:06:18 #
I photograph Equestrian to a Professional standard and shoot with a 7D, 70-200 L IS F4, 1/1000 sec @ F4 mostly and when required I use Auto ISO and have taken many useable images at ISO 5000...
As for metering, I always look for something near mid gray, or green and you can also meter off the ground, even if it is the all weather stuff..I prefer to manually meter due to the many different shades of horses and riders...
My White Balance is set to 4500 Kelvin
Oh, and when it's bright use Tv as the shutter speed is far more important then the depth of field, and Manual when the light gets too low...I'm still learning too :O)
The image below is as shot (Raw) and has only been resized and saved as a jpg....
As for metering, I always look for something near mid gray, or green and you can also meter off the ground, even if it is the all weather stuff..I prefer to manually meter due to the many different shades of horses and riders...
My White Balance is set to 4500 Kelvin
Oh, and when it's bright use Tv as the shutter speed is far more important then the depth of field, and Manual when the light gets too low...I'm still learning too :O)
The image below is as shot (Raw) and has only been resized and saved as a jpg....
Nov 28, 2012 11:11:11 #
Birdguide wrote:
What can I do in setting up my shots at this arena, the ground reflects so much light back that it makes the shots washed out, not sure how to compensate, advice please.
Would a faster shutter speed do the trick?
Would a faster shutter speed do the trick?
A faster shutter speed won't help.
As many have suggested recomposing to reduce the white in the first place is the best option. Also if you can fill the frame with the horse and rider that will help. The second is better in that regards but you can do even better.
No one has yet mentioned a graduated neutral density filter. It would take some fussing to get used to using one right and they are not inexpensive. You can simulate them in post processing with a gradient as attached. On the second one I also used the burn brush on the white posts and van.
If you have a Nikon camera using Active D-lighting might help.
Nov 28, 2012 13:07:45 #
This is my attempt to improve picture in PP. I am sorry if you do not like it.
Birdguide wrote:
What can I do in setting up my shots at this arena, the ground reflects so much light back that it makes the shots washed out, not sure how to compensate, advice please.
Would a faster shutter speed do the trick?
Would a faster shutter speed do the trick?
Nov 28, 2012 14:30:17 #
Added a bit of color to her hand so it doesn't looked overexposed---hard to concentrate on her hand, hope you don't mind..........
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