New York AG sues Trump, his children and their company on charges of large-scale business fraud (Page 5): You better buy a lot. Biden and his crime family will be following on short...

FrumCA

jcboy3 wrote:

It's the start of something big. I expect to see lawsuits and indictments against the Trump cartel for the next few years. I'm getting loaded up on popcorn and beer.

You better buy a lot. Biden and his crime family will be following on short order.

rwoodvira

thom w wrote:

Agree with most of your post, but I'd think twice before using the Borowitz report to back yourself up. Would you cite the Onion?

oops

rwoodvira

Racmanaz wrote:

Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia

You sound like: "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha," from the Brady Bunch.

Since you brought up Russia for the umpteenth time - here's a summary of the not-so-good findings of the Mueller Report:
https://www.acslaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ACS-CREW-Final-Mueller-Report-Highlights.7.19.pdf

LOL!

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Blurryeyed wrote:

Makes you giddy doesn't it? Just wait until the republicans get their hands on Biden.

Lol

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

rwoodvira wrote:

You sound like: "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha," from the Brady Bunch.

Since you brought up Russia for the umpteenth time - here's a summary of the not-so-good findings of the Mueller Report:
https://www.acslaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ACS-CREW-Final-Mueller-Report-Highlights.7.19.pdf

LOL!

Lol you Lefty nuts keep deflecting from the fact that NOT ONE American INCLUDING Trump was found to have conspired to have colluded with Russia.....NOT A SINGLE AMERICAN, INCLUDING TRUMP.

Captryan Loc: Massachusetts

Kmgw9v wrote:

It is premature to dismiss the 220 page civil comp... (show quote)

You have got to be kidding. "Destroy her career???" She will be honored and praised by the left for continuing to go after the "Evil Orange Man"! She will be on every left leaning talk show, radio and tv. She will be reelected until she finally quits to take a prime-time spot on MSDNC. This may even be a steppingstone to the Govenor's mansion.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Racmanaz wrote:

It was a disorganized spontaneous riot not an organized and planned insurrection, so dumb lol.

There were weeks of planning and preparation which preceeded trump's call to gather in Washington, DC on January 6, 2021.

The Insurrection and attempted coup was always part of trump's last ditch effort to illegally remain in office beyond noon on January 20, 2021.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

McKinneyMike wrote:

How many times did the Donald use the 5th in his d... (show quote)

If a prosecutor cannot make a case without a defendants help he has no case. The bill of rights insures that a defendant need not and cannot be forced to aid the prosecution. When a cop pulls you over and asks if you know why you were stopped the proper answer no, any other answer could lead to admission of guilt.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

letmedance wrote:

If a prosecutor cannot make a case without a defendants help he has no case. The bill of rights insures that a defendant need not and cannot be forced to aid the prosecution. When a cop pulls you over and asks if you know why you were stopped the proper answer no, any other answer could lead to admission of guilt.

In a Civil Case, pleading the 5th can and most often will be used against you in court!

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

In a Civil Case, pleading the 5th can and most often will be used against you in court!

In a Civil Case, it's a necessity that the plaintiff prove that a victim was harmed economically or non-economically. This filing does not identify any known victims who were injured in any way.

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

BooIsMyCat wrote:

Ah, once again... deflection. Yes, it is the legal... (show quote)

No deflation on my part at all. I am responding to your post. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I do not believe that is the legal definition as you say. As far as hate and blindness, we'll, that seems to be in your front yard. No charges have or will be brought until there is evidence. You on the left hate Trump so much you will do anything. Enough of your nonsense. Good bye.

rwoodvira

WNYShooter wrote:

In a Civil Case, it's a necessity that the plaintiff prove that a victim was harmed economically or non-economically. This filing does not identify any known victims who were injured in any way.

You are essentially correct on the economic damages. NY requires five elements to prove fraud: 1) a false statement containing material fact, (2) the defendant possesses the knowledge that the statement is untrue, (3) the false statement’s intent is to deceive the intended victim, (4) the intended victim justifiably relies on the statement, and (5) the ending result is financial injuries to the intended victim.

There's a pretty good explanation of the potentiality of the case:
https://theconversation.com/new-yorks-250-million-lawsuit-against-donald-trump-is-the-beginning-not-end-of-this-case-a-tax-lawyer-explains-whats-at-stake-191146

By overstating values banks were lending money based on total security that wasn't real; by understating property values insurers were not receiving the premiums that they should have received; by undervaluing property real estate taxes were suppressed; and if some of those over valuations were for charity deductions suppressing income reported to the states and the IRS. The latter 2 can cause criminal charges.

An interesting side bar to this is if he did this in other countries; notably his Scottish golf course. Scotland does have criminal penalties for fraud.

As noted before - whatever the outcome, Trump, his kids and the organization are going to hit with monumental legal bills and unless it is dismissed real quick the litigation is going to going on for a long time.

One last comment - Trump probably helped himself by using the 5th in the civil case; but he may have whetted the appetite of prosecutors from a criminal prosecution.

My 2 cents.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

WNYShooter wrote:

In a Civil Case, it's a necessity that the plaintiff prove that a victim was harmed economically or non-economically. This filing does not identify any known victims who were injured in any way.

Yeah, I”ll bet James never thought of that. Trump will be fine.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

There were weeks of planning and preparation which preceeded trump's call to gather in Washington, DC on January 6, 2021.

The Insurrection and attempted coup was always part of trump's last ditch effort to illegally remain in office beyond noon on January 20, 2021.

BS, there was weeks of preparation for the protest not a riot, why do you lie about everything? There was NO INSURRECTION attempt, just another anti Trump BS lie. It was a bunch of protesters who decided to be stupid and turn it into a riot and breaking into the Capitol building. If it were a preparation for an insurrection they all would have been armed with firearms which they were not. You have no idea what an insurrection is, you just believe the b******* that you've been told without any question.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

Kmgw9v wrote:

It is premature to dismiss the 220 page civil comp... (show quote)

If anyone thinks the bank lends money on what you say or think a piece of property is worth your dumber than a ugly rock. The banks do their own appraisal and you don't even get to pick the appraiser. Christ people if it worked the other way we could all be rich. Lmfao