Some new studies are coming out.. (Page 5): And the doctor knew that how?

leftj Loc: Texas

scallihan wrote:

A good friend of mine in his 80s has a few comorbidities (heart, lungs). He got Covid-19 (dont know which variant) last month and became quite ill. He tested positive for nearly two weeks. But he did not need hospitalization. His doctor told him he would at the very least been on a ventilator, and likely would not have survived had he not been vaxed and boosted.

And the doctor knew that how?

andesbill

Canisdirus wrote:

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Almost everyone who died were unvaccinated. There is nothing in the above information that points to any damage from the mRNA vaccinations. Death is the final arbiter. Personally, I’m grateful that so many MAGA Republicans are unvaccinated. I sincerely hope they refuse all vaccines.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Mark Sturtevant wrote:

Is 94% of the total sample meaning ALL who were va... (show quote)

Same here. I'm allergic to penicillin, having had bad reactions to it as a little kid, and in the ER when a careless doctor didn't read my chart or ask questions, so I understand there is some risk to all medicines.

I would rather die later than sooner. So when I got Covid 19 in June, I got the Paxlovid treatment. Did it come with some annoying side effects? Yes. Did it start working immediately? Yes. Did I have a rebound? Yes, a slight one. But that lasted a day or two. Am I glad I asked for Paxlovid? YES. I'm just as glad as I was to be vaccinated twice and boosted twice. And I will get another booster in a week or so.

BusterCrabbe Loc: Montreal

Canisdirus wrote:

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clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa

andesbill wrote:

Almost everyone who died were unvaccinated. There is nothing in the above information that points to any damage from the mRNA vaccinations. Death is the final arbiter. Personally, I’m grateful that so many MAGA Republicans are unvaccinated. I sincerely hope they refuse all vaccines.

Wow, that seems a little harsh. Fortunately few on the right wish the same for you because of political beliefs and hatred.

Canisdirus

I did not start the thread to argue with anyone.

I don't need to...the data is falling as expected.
Numbers were fudged big time...Fauci is under investigation (as he should be)...and the CDC is sending out apologies.

But the medical studies are great and incomplete.

It's not going to be good news.

This was NOT a medical issue on it's own...there was an election involved...and unrest and elections abroad.

Doubting Thomas' were excoriated in the media...on purpose...to maintain a political narrative...not a medical one.
Who did not notice this? Pretty obvious.

Now the fall out begins....where it ends...who knows...which is a problem.

All vaccinated folks now have to wait for the shoe to drop....and indications are...they will drop...how many is the unknown...and how bad it will be.

bcplimpton Loc: Southern New Jersey

Canisdirus wrote:

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Speaking of those who blindly follow without understanding and jump to invalid conclusions:

The study showed that "94% of people who experienced side effects" had "stuff" in their blood.
What percentage of the vaccinated population reported side effects severe enough to undergo testing? My guess, less than 5% but that is just a guess with no data to back it up. Even if it is as high as 10% then the effect on the population is less than 1% (0.94%). Further what is the percentage of the non-vacinated population that have "stuff" in their blood?

Canisdirus

bcplimpton wrote:

Speaking of those who blindly follow without under... (show quote)

I did not write nor endorse the study...don't ask or accuse me of anything.

Science is science...and new science is new science.

The 'vaccinations' are 'new science'...and a lot of folks in a politically created crisis...got brand new treatment.

We'll see how the experiment pans out...because that's what it is...an experiment.
How can I possibly know this?
Easy....they are starting to get results no one expected or foresaw.
That's new science...

There's a LOT more to come...rest assured.
I just ran across this...I'm sure if anyone started to dig...there's more right now.

Good luck.

dave.speeking Loc: Brooklyn OH

The "foreign matter" is described in the novel - The Crooked Staircase, by Dean Kootz

canberra Loc: Top of the (Chesapeake) Bay

Longshadow wrote:

So this definition is no longer valid?:
"any preventive preparation used to stimulate the body’s immune response against a specific disease, using either messenger RNA or killed or weakened bacteria or viruses to prepare the body to recognize a disease and produce antibodies."

Only been ‘valid’ for the last year or so, as that definition was adopted solely to make the use of the word “vaccine” apply to the Covid jabs. In actuality, there is NO vaccine for Covid.

mudduck

Look, being vaccinated doesn't necessarily mean you won't get it, the human body is an incredibly complex thing, maybe the vaccine will keep me safe and maybe it won't. But if I'm rolling the dice on my life Im going to use whatever edge I can get. Theres a lot of stories where vaccinated people got covid anyway and even more of people who didnt and died of it. If you dint take the vaccine and didnt get consider yourself lucky...so far.

mitrecon

Canisdirus wrote:

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“Blindly follow”? Yet you say there is a study but give no reference or citation, liken it to three South Korean names who do not come up in a google search either vaguely connected to this type of study or even being in the field. BS

leftj Loc: Texas

andesbill wrote:

Almost everyone who died were unvaccinated. There is nothing in the above information that points to any damage from the mRNA vaccinations. Death is the final arbiter. Personally, I’m grateful that so many MAGA Republicans are unvaccinated. I sincerely hope they refuse all vaccines.

And you know all this how Karen?

srron Loc: Courtice,On.

If you do your research before buying a car....you are a smart consumer
If you do your research before injecting yourself with a foreign substance you know little or nothing about...you are a conspiracy theorist.

Most people don't know how science is supposed to work, 87% of scientists might agree on something but that means that the 13% should be taken seriously and their objections should examined in depth not disregarded as kooks or quacks.Just look at all the theorys that have turned out to be true.

sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri

“Never let a ‘good’ crisis go to waste.” Prime Minister Winston Churchill. What saddened me the most was that COVID-19 was used for political leverage by the parties and the 2020 election.

For example, CNN kept a running tab of the number of COVID cases on a sidebar of the screen. As soon as the election was over, that sidebar counting the number of instances magically disappeared. Of course, the same thing played out when George W. was president, and the number of casualties fighting in the middle east was tabulated on the screen sidebar along with names and pictures of the fallen heroes...until...after the election, and then the sidebar and the names were no longer broadcasted.