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Aug 21, 2022 21:43:51   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Guyserman wrote:
is a real drag. I picked up a cheap Kalimar K-90 in a yard sale. Lens is a Sears zoom marked with 1.4.0 (don't know what that means.) Aperture is marked from f4 to f22 but there are two clicks larger than f4 - maybe f3.5. Zoom range is 80 - 200mm and zoom mechanism is internal.

I bought a 36 exposure roll of b&w film to try it out. What a DUMB move. I should have got a 20 exposure roll. After using an M4/3 camera, man was that thing heavy. I always forgot to wind the film until I was ready to take the next shot. I had to take it down from my face, wind the film, check the exposure, focus and composition all over again (it had zoom creep.) I finally got to where I could change the aperture without taking it down.

I managed 14 snaps before I tired out. I don't know how I ever used one of these from the 1950s through the 1990s. I guess I was stronger and also I never had a lens longer the 135mm. I know this: I sure do love my micro four thirds MILC.

What about you hogs. Do you ever return to the SLR world?
is a real drag. I picked up a cheap Kalimar K-90 i... (show quote)


I just pulled out a roll of B&W film which I want to try using a Canon AE1. I will only get the film developed to see what kind of images come out. I think retro is a very real thing with some people still experimenting with pin-hole cameras. I don't think it hurts to delve in past technologies from time to time as it may help us appreciate what we have today!

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Aug 21, 2022 22:58:04   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
burkphoto:

Yes, I did some conference rooms, Studio work etc in the 70's.
Mandatory Carousel projector or 2,
2 Bell & Howell 614 [?] 16 MM Projectors, rear screen.
Then some WIERD studio systems when I worked @ Telemation.

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Aug 21, 2022 23:18:13   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
What about you hogs. Do you ever return to the SLR world?

I return to the SLR world to shoot some B/W which prints I know will stand the test of time and need no updated software to handle and view.


My last SLR was my Minolta Maxxum 7000 which I bought in 1985. It had auto focus which I enjoyed a lot with a number of Minolta lenses. Used it for the next 15 years and have boxes of packs of negatives that I am still working on motivating myself to scan on my Epson V600. Other than a few test scans which turned out really well, I am just finding it difficult to get started. I remember how my wife, who never actually wanted to use the camera, would always point out what she wanted me to take pictures of.

Used this camera for 15 years until I decided to leave film altogether. In fact, the last time I was about to use this camera, someone tripped and fell onto the camera and snapped off the flash I was going to use. So much for that indoor picture taking opportunity.

The first SLR I used was a Mamya Sekor which I bought in 1969. I had so worn it out by 1985 when I bought the Maxxum, that knobs were even falling off. In fact, that is why I bought the Maxxum.

No, I'm not ever going back to film. Those days are over for me. But I sure do like playing with the old legacy manual lenses on mirrorless cameras. The Maxxum 7000 may be hidden away in the house somewhere, but not my old lenses. And I have many of them. Focus magnification and focus peaking have changed the game, and just maybe, sometime after the new TechArt LM-EA9 starts shipping, maybe the GAS level will rise again?

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Aug 22, 2022 06:15:47   #
BebuLamar
 
Bridges wrote:
I just pulled out a roll of B&W film which I want to try using a Canon AE1. I will only get the film developed to see what kind of images come out. I think retro is a very real thing with some people still experimenting with pin-hole cameras. I don't think it hurts to delve in past technologies from time to time as it may help us appreciate what we have today!


I only do pinhole with a digital camera never did with film. It seems making blurry images on film is a waste.

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Aug 26, 2022 11:24:48   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
That's why bits beat atoms! The virtual world can view digital media at will. Only the producer can show a slide show (or at least, it can be in only as many places as you made expensive duplicates for it).

Slides are great, but dragging out the projector and screen instead of using a phone, tablet, computer, or smartTV seems a bit inconvenient. Of course, I may be shell shocked by years of professional multi-image AV show production (3- to 15-projector shows were my specialty). It was fun in my 20s... the 1980s.
That's why bits beat atoms! The virtual world can ... (show quote)


Technically "bits" are recorded on material fabricated out of silicon atoms. ;)

Someone offered me a slide projector the other day I said no thanks, the computer, or TV are the modern slide projectors, the phone is the equivalent of the wallet with a stack of transparent holders for photos. The iPad is like the 8x10 photo book.

But it's not either / OR, you an do both film and digital now and display the film pics on the TV.

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Aug 26, 2022 11:25:27   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
I have an Ektagraphic III AT projector, with Apollo zoom lens on it, that I haven't used in 30 years.

Yes slides were like JPEGs. You had to set up the camera for the end result.

I have been copying all my old slides and negatives to digital files so I can print and share them. I use my Lumix GH4 with 30mm macro lens.

Here are a few:


Koda chrome..... nice bright colors .... (humming the tune).

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Aug 26, 2022 11:38:43   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
Technically "bits" are recorded on material fabricated out of silicon atoms. ;)

Someone offered me a slide projector the other day I said no thanks, the computer, or TV are the modern slide projectors, the phone is the equivalent of the wallet with a stack of transparent holders for photos. The iPad is like the 8x10 photo book.

But it's not either / OR, you an do both film and digital now and display the film pics on the TV.


If you've seen my posts here, many started as film images. I haven't exposed a roll of film since 2005, but I've digitized hundreds of rolls of negatives and slides so they can be shared any way I wish to share them. The prints from them look better than the prints I made 40-50 years ago.

The beauty of bits is that they can be duplicated exactly. They can exist on my computer and a remote server, and my phone or your phone or computer, all at the same time. Transmit them with radio, wire, or optical fiber, and your image is shared instantly around the world.

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Aug 26, 2022 23:36:20   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Guyserman wrote:
is a real drag. I picked up a cheap Kalimar K-90 in a yard sale. Lens is a Sears zoom marked with 1.4.0 (don't know what that means.) Aperture is marked from f4 to f22 but there are two clicks larger than f4 - maybe f3.5. Zoom range is 80 - 200mm and zoom mechanism is internal.

I bought a 36 exposure roll of b&w film to try it out. What a DUMB move. I should have got a 20 exposure roll. After using an M4/3 camera, man was that thing heavy. I always forgot to wind the film until I was ready to take the next shot. I had to take it down from my face, wind the film, check the exposure, focus and composition all over again (it had zoom creep.) I finally got to where I could change the aperture without taking it down.

I managed 14 snaps before I tired out. I don't know how I ever used one of these from the 1950s through the 1990s. I guess I was stronger and also I never had a lens longer the 135mm. I know this: I sure do love my micro four thirds MILC.

What about you hogs. Do you ever return to the SLR world?
is a real drag. I picked up a cheap Kalimar K-90 i... (show quote)


Effin kidz! I'm from then.
BTW, Ricoh made the lenses for Sears. They were pretty good.
I STILL shoot auto-iso and manual focus. Well, then ISO was determined by the film.
I still like 120 film cameras. My Kiev 60 and my Iskra still get occasional use.
Yeah that Kiev is a monster- but I'm over 6 feet tall so it looks like a 35mm on me.
But the last time I shot a few rolls, the lab's chemicals were tainted by someone else's slides.
I've got four rolls of negatives that are all red tinted.
IFF film and processing costs come down I'd like to use film more often.
But at Ren Faire I shot a couple hundred shots. Could I do that on a EM Nikon 50?
AAND with a DSLR I can look at the back and preview what the shot will look like.
And "process" my shots myself (PSE) as soon as I get home.
I'm also in my 70s, so ... can't take them with me.
Next nostalgia "surge" they'll go to ebay where someone wants them..

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Aug 27, 2022 15:09:44   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
There's no reason to take the camera down away from your face to advance the film between shots. And once advancing to the next frame after each shot becomes a routine habit, you will rarely forget to do it.

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Aug 27, 2022 15:28:35   #
Guyserman Loc: Benton, AR
 
rook2c4 wrote:
There's no reason to take the camera down away from your face to advance the film between shots. And once advancing to the next frame after each shot becomes a routine habit, you will rarely forget to do it.


Agreed. Once upon a time it was routine but after 20 years of digital it is no longer routine and never will be again for me. Thanks for commenting.

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Aug 27, 2022 17:10:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Guyserman wrote:
Agreed. Once upon a time it was routine but after 20 years of digital it is no longer routine and never will be again for me. Thanks for commenting.



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Aug 27, 2022 18:36:04   #
BebuLamar
 
Guyserman wrote:
Agreed. Once upon a time it was routine but after 20 years of digital it is no longer routine and never will be again for me. Thanks for commenting.


When I started out I never had my shutter cocked until I want to take the shot. I was so afraid that the shutter will get damaged if left cocked for too long. But later on, I always advance the film after each shot but I also had the habbit of having the roll processed by the end of the day regardless I finished it or not. I could take 5 frame on the 36 exp roll and process it.

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Aug 28, 2022 01:10:36   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
BebuLamar wrote:
When I started out I never had my shutter cocked until I want to take the shot. I was so afraid that the shutter will get damaged if left cocked for too long. But later on, I always advance the film after each shot but I also had the habbit of having the roll processed by the end of the day regardless I finished it or not. I could take 5 frame on the 36 exp roll and process it.


Yep I get that. But as said above we lost that habit with auto advance film cameras and later with digital cameras.

So you have to re-learn it when using a vintage camera. But for a hobbyist it’s not all bad to slow down and spend more time on each shot.

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Aug 28, 2022 06:47:42   #
BebuLamar
 
JD750 wrote:
Yep I get that. But as said above we lost that habit with auto advance film cameras and later with digital cameras.

So you have to re-learn it when using a vintage camera. But for a hobbyist it’s not all bad to slow down and spend more time on each shot.


I don't know. I never like the controls of new cameras so I still prefer the old ways. I now really hate the counting wheels.

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