Advantages/disadvantages of R5 in crop mode: What are the advantages and disadvantages of using an R5 in crop mode vs full frame and cropping making full use of the sensor?

recb

What are the advantages and disadvantages of using an R5 in crop mode vs full frame and cropping making full use of the sensor?

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

recb wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages of using an R5 in crop mode vs full frame and cropping making full use of the sensor?

Hmm. You've had 108 views but no replies. So I'll give it a go:

Advantages:
- your subject will appear larger, possibly enabling more precise focus.
- smaller file size. Relevant if you are saving to a small or nearly full card, or you're shooting high-speed continuous and in danger of filling the buffer.

Disadvantages:
- smaller frame in which to keep moving objects fully in the frame.
- you will be discarding data outside the center of your focus, which you might have included in your final crop had you shot full frame and then cropped in post
- you are stuck with a 1.6 crop, whereas you might have cropped differently had you shot full frame and cropped in post

recb

David Martin wrote:

Hmm. You've had 108 views but no replies. So I'll ... (show quote)

Thank you very much.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Well my solution to this is simple:
1. 5DIV for full frame wide angle shots like landscape + it performs a bit better in dim light.
2. 80D, 90D, 7DII or my new R7 for crop mode and "more reach"

Even the older 20MP 7DII puts more pixels on the subject as long as I fill the frame = 20MP vs 17.5MP for the R5 in crop mode.
The 80D puts 24MP on subject.
The 90D and R7 put 32MP on subject.

Why spend the extra money for a FF sensor only to use it cropped?

Now if you do photography that works best in FF and photography that works best in Crop and want to keep the gear bag something that you don't need to hire a football lineman to carry for you and you are happy with the lower pixel on subject thing, go for it, your choice. Or you can only afford one camera (or the family CFO puts a limit on your toy budget) but want to do both types of photography then a full frame that can go crop mode might be for you.

Besides I can put a FF shot into LrC etc. and crop or reframe to my heart's content within the FF image.

therwol Loc: USA

robertjerl wrote:

Besides I can put a FF shot into LrC etc. and crop or reframe to my heart's content within the FF image.

Right. The crop frame mode will crop for you in the same way with each picture. Using the camera in the full frame mode allows you to custom crop in post processing and reframe the picture at the same time if that's desirable.

If you have lenses designed for a crop frame camera, you might be better off using the lenses on a crop frame camera and typically get more pixels in the final image.

recb

robertjerl wrote:

Well my solution to this is simple: br 1. 5DIV for... (show quote)

Thank you.

recb

therwol wrote:

Right. The crop frame mode will crop for you in the same way with each picture. Using the camera in the full frame mode allows you to custom crop in post processing and reframe the picture at the same time if that's desirable.

If you have lenses designed for a crop frame camera, you might be better off using the lenses on a crop frame camera and typically get more pixels in the final image.

Thanks, I don't have any such lenses. All the responses conclude the same thing.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

recb wrote:

Thank you.

you are welcome

jcboy3

recb wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages of using an R5 in crop mode vs full frame and cropping making full use of the sensor?

I don't shoot Canon, but I have a Nikon Z7II (formerly Z7) and use it in crop mode quite often. If the subject is small and I'm going to crop, I can see it better, and have smaller file sizes.

I also use the reduced files size mode (sampled) with the full image. This saves file size as well. When shooting events and weddings, I don't need full resolution and will shoot cropped or sampled to keep file sizes small.

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

recb wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages of using an R5 in crop mode vs full frame and cropping making full use of the sensor?

My understanding of UHH is that it is an educational photo forum. As in any technical writing the use of a term such as R5 should be clarified for the general reader rather than a elite group who already know the term R5. From my Google search I gather that this is simply using a change in aspect ration within the camera. Is this correct?

Is "Agonizing between R5 and R6 relevant to this post?

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-749871-1.html

Jimmy T Loc: Virginia

David Martin wrote:

Hmm. You've had 108 views but no replies. So I'll ... (show quote)

Good points David.
I find that it is good to use the "1.6 Crop" in a pinch when I don't have a longer lens with me.
Also, it saves me from changing my lens just to get a small number of shots.
When I use the "1.6 Crop" the file sizes are still large enough to work with.
If they aren't large enough there is always Topaz Gigapixel AI . . . . .
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

Tomfl101 Loc: Mount Airy, MD

The 1.6 image quality is outstanding as long as you're not enlarging beyond 16x20. I use it frequently for sports and find it hard to tell the difference between FF without serious pixel peeping. Shooting in 1.6 mode eliminates the need for tele-converters that sacrifice 1 -2 stops exposure. So consider that for low light situations. However, if you have plenty of time to post process you're always better off cropping in post.

Jimmy T Loc: Virginia

Tomfl101 wrote:

The 1.6 image quality is outstanding as long as you're not enlarging beyond 16x20. I use it frequently for sports and find it hard to tell the difference between FF without serious pixel peeping. Shooting in 1.6 mode eliminates the need for tele-converters that sacrifice 1 -2 stops exposure. So consider that for low light situations. However, if you have plenty of time to post process you're always better off cropping in post.

Very important, and positive considerations.
Thanks,
JimmyT Sends

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

recb wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages of using an R5 in crop mode vs full frame and cropping making full use of the sensor?

Hmmm. Taking your 45MP EOS R5 that you paid around $3,900 to move into and then shooting this technology marvel as a 17MP crop-sensor camera? Cameras in the 17MP range were retired around 2012 when the standard moved to 24MP. Is there any possible advantage at all?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Jimmy T wrote:

Good points David.
I find that it is good to use the "1.6 Crop" in a pinch when I don't have a longer lens with me.
Also, it saves me from changing my lens just to get a small number of shots.
When I use the "1.6 Crop" the file sizes are still large enough to work with.
If they aren't large enough there is always Topaz Gigapixel AI . . . . .
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

Hmmm. You paid around $3,900 for the full-frame glory of 45 megapixels based on Canon EOS technology. And then, you're going to have to futz with your cropped images with some third-party software to try to restore 60% of the pixels you really just threw away in the trash?