Agonizing between R5 and R6 (Page 3): have you considered an R7. It has 32.5 mp.

diharr

have you considered an R7. It has 32.5 mp.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

I bought an R when they first became available. I enjoyed it so much that I ended up selling my 5DIV not long afterwards. Same thing happened when I bought my R5. The R is now just a fading memory. The money I spent doesn't bother me one bit because I know I have a camera that can do anything I want to do better then I know how to do it. I know just about nothing about the R6 but I do know that I will never ask myself "Gee, should I have spent the extra money for the better camera?".
As far as the CF Express cards, I bought one and a reader but I rarely use them. My SD cards, the ones I have had through several Canons, work just fine. Never a problem with buffering, etc. If I did a lot of burst shooting or video it would probably be a different story, but, I don't shoot video and any burst shots I do rarely exceed 8 or 10 shots.
It's your money. I'm a firm believer in buying the best tools that I can afford, be it a ratchet or a camera. If that extra $1300 is going to eat at you later, go with the R6. If not, then my advice would be to go with the R5.

BarbB

I had that same issue last year. I went with the R6 for it’s low light capabilities. I decided that the few times I might want to crop tightly, I could “upsize the photo” first, and then crop.I do not find any issues with the 20MP at all. I was concerned that with the R5, that 45MP might be too much for my computer to download, and also take up way too much space. I have not regretted my decision at all. After buying the R6, i did not pickup my 5DM4 a all…In fact I just sold it to buy the R7…so now I have a camera for wildlife (R7) and one for landscapes/etc…I am very happy with the decision…Buying both cameras are just a little more than the R5 would have been, and totally serve all my needs….I don’t think you will be sorry with whichever model you choose..

foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC

Basil wrote:

I currently have a 5D Mark IV (My tele lenses include a Canon 70-200 f4, 300 f4 Prime and a Sigma 150-600 Zoom).

While I love the 5DIV, I am pretty much certain that I want to move to mirrorless but am torn (agonizing is more accurate) between going for the Canon R6 or spending another $1400+ (plus more $$ for CFe cards and a CFe reader) for the R5.

My biggest concern is having 10MP less with the R6 compared to the 5D4 and whether the additional MP of the R5 is worth the rather hefty additional expense (remember it's not just the additional $1400 for the camera, but also the added expense of using CFe cards compared to SD cards).

I know that more pixels on the R5 means I can crop in more and retain IQ, but in practical real-life situations, how often would that be an issue and how much difference will it really make in practical terms.

Of course if the R6 had just a tad more MP (like even 24),that would make the decision a little easier. But going down to 20Mp from 30MP is a hard pill to swallow, if only psychologically, but at the same time justifying more than $1400 + additional CFe card/ reader costs for the R5 is also psychologically a hard pill.

I do like the fact that the R6 uses the same cards in both slots whereas the R5 uses two different card types (I hate that about my 5D4). Aside from the MP and some increased video capability (which isn't that important to me) it seems the two are very comparable when comparing all other features.

I guess the real question would be how much I can still crop in with the R6 before seeing any noticeable degradation of IQ?

I have read lots of comparisons and watched a ton of "comparison videos" but wanted to hear from hogs here who have moved from the 5DIV to the R6 specifically. I still don't have a good feel for whether giving up those 10MP would make enough of a difference to warrant the additional expense of an R5. Have any hogs moved from the 5D4 to the R6 (I'm specifically not asking about the R5 in this post - I know it would be "better" than the R6) and what has your real world experience been regarding whether 20MP is "enough" in most situations.

I currently have a 5D Mark IV (My tele lenses incl... (show quote)

I think you have already answered your own question. Why give up 10MP just to switch to a mirrorless? If you are going to switch from the 5D IV the only camera to change to would be the R5. I went from a 7D II to the R5. I wasn't going to give it up to get LESS MPs. But then again, if money is the problem, I guess you're in a dilemma. Good luck with the decision you make.

Highmesa

I have a friend that shoots with the Canon R4. Wonderful photos. I‘be tried Canons twice and just couldn’t get comfortable. Great photos, though. I use the Nikon Z9 and Fuji GgFX 100s. I will keep them forever. The advantages of mirrorless are worth the investment. Just having the histogram in the viewfinder and actually seeing the difference in light on the screen, instead of stopping down, is a winner. For exceptionally sharp photos, there is nothing like the GFX. That Z9 is great for video without giving up mp’s. I’d seriously keep the R4 and lens and move on to the higher mp Canon. I know you don’t want to spend the money and you probably won’t see a big difference in the photos. But Canon has stopped making DSLR’s. Nikon is following. I think you’ll be glad you made the switch. We loved the Nikon 850, but with the new lens and Z9, there is a noticeable difference with longer lens. Stick with Canon. It’s a great camera.

RMcIntyre

I have the R6 and use it for birds and BIF with the 100/500 RF lens and get excellent results. The R6 has the same sensor as the 1DX MK iii and the low light performance is good as is higher iso. Just my two cents worth.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

TriX wrote:

The R6 and the 5D4 have identical low light/high ISO performance, and the R5 is only marginally better. Here are the numbers (stops). The DR is almost the same as well. Source: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

5D4 10.65
R6 10.66
R5 10.76

The link you provided is a comparison of dynamic range. All three cameras are pretty equal in that respect.

Dynamic range comparison: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%205D%20Mark%20IV,Canon%20EOS%20R5,Canon%20EOS%20R6

But if you look at noise, the R6 is clearly more resistant to it (as might be expected with a lower resolution camera).

Read Noise comparison: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/RN_ADU.htm#Canon%20EOS%205D%20Mark%20IV_14,Canon%20EOS%20R5_14,Canon%20EOS%20R6_14

OP, before anyone can help you with your decision we need to know some things...

1. What do you usually shoot?
2. How do you usually shoot it?
3. What do you do with your images?
4. What other gear do you have, especially lenses?
5. What are you hoping to accomplish with this purchase?
6. Do you anticipate any changes in the future that will effect any of the above?

As to your concern about more expensive CF Express cards... the R5 has two slots. One is SD. If you don't mind using just one card, and don't need the high capacities and high write speed of CFE, you could just keep using any SD cards you already have.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Basil wrote:

I currently have a 5D Mark IV (My tele lenses include a Canon 70-200 f4, 300 f4 Prime and a Sigma 150-600 Zoom).

While I love the 5DIV, I am pretty much certain that I want to move to mirrorless but am torn (agonizing is more accurate) between going for the Canon R6 or spending another $1400+ (plus more $$ for CFe cards and a CFe reader) for the R5.

My biggest concern is having 10MP less with the R6 compared to the 5D4 and whether the additional MP of the R5 is worth the rather hefty additional expense (remember it's not just the additional $1400 for the camera, but also the added expense of using CFe cards compared to SD cards).

I know that more pixels on the R5 means I can crop in more and retain IQ, but in practical real-life situations, how often would that be an issue and how much difference will it really make in practical terms.

Of course if the R6 had just a tad more MP (like even 24),that would make the decision a little easier. But going down to 20Mp from 30MP is a hard pill to swallow, if only psychologically, but at the same time justifying more than $1400 + additional CFe card/ reader costs for the R5 is also psychologically a hard pill.

I do like the fact that the R6 uses the same cards in both slots whereas the R5 uses two different card types (I hate that about my 5D4). Aside from the MP and some increased video capability (which isn't that important to me) it seems the two are very comparable when comparing all other features.

I guess the real question would be how much I can still crop in with the R6 before seeing any noticeable degradation of IQ?

I have read lots of comparisons and watched a ton of "comparison videos" but wanted to hear from hogs here who have moved from the 5DIV to the R6 specifically. I still don't have a good feel for whether giving up those 10MP would make enough of a difference to warrant the additional expense of an R5. Have any hogs moved from the 5D4 to the R6 (I'm specifically not asking about the R5 in this post - I know it would be "better" than the R6) and what has your real world experience been regarding whether 20MP is "enough" in most situations.

I currently have a 5D Mark IV (My tele lenses incl... (show quote)

Here's a thought, if you buy the R5 your wallet may sting for a month or two but you will never be asking yourself if you should have bought the R5, if you buy the R6 you may find yourself asking yourself time and time again if you shouldn't have gone for the better camera when making the move to mirrorless. The R5 is a pretty amazing camera.

BebuLamar

The 5D MKIV when it was released the price was about $3500. So for an upgrade it makes much more sense to go for the R5 which is about $500 more.

williejoha

What will either the R5 or 6 do that the Mark IV won’t ? What features do you want and why? That is the process I employed before getting the R5. Good luck with your decision
WJH

BebuLamar

williejoha wrote:

What will either the R5 or 6 do that the Mark IV won’t ? What features do you want and why? That is the process I employed before getting the R5. Good luck with your decision
WJH

One thing is for sure. Both the R5 and R6 have EVF and they both have IBIS. The 5D MKIV doesn't.

Ratelliott

To me the decision comes down to what you like to shoot. As you have noted, both the r5 and r6 have many similarities. I went from a 6DII to the r5. I shoot mostly wildlife and landscape. For me the extra pixels are critical to allow me to crop as needed when I can't get as close to the wildlife as I would like. I love the camera and don't regret the extra money for the extra pixels.

A good friend of mine went to the r6 from Nikon. She does some landscape work, but primarily does studio work and so rarely needs to crop. She is equally satisfied with her r6. It more than meets her needs.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

amfoto1 wrote:

The link you provided is a comparison of dynamic r... (show quote)

If you scroll down below the DR chart, you’ll see a tabulation (by camera) showing both max DR and high ISO performance such as shown below. The numbers I posted are the high ISO/low light performance numbers, not the DR. Btw, if you compare the R5, R6, and 5D4, the DR past base ISOs are identical, but the R5 is a stop better if you stick to base ISO as shown below.

foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC

put some bids in with Greentoe. I bought my R5 that way. I saved a bit.

Kosmo Loc: Streamwood , IL

I bought the R6, going from a 5d3 & have no issues. New software can make up for the loss of MP . It’s a great camera.. Just go & take pictures and don’t worry about mega pixels ..
some of the best shots were taken with low pixel count cameras …