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Art vs Realism
Aug 23, 2022 20:47:38 #
User ID wrote:
SOOCers would not know "getting it right" if it bit them. They seem to espouse that "right" is when they compare their photo to their subject scene and find little to no difference.
Anybody who believes they've seen a photo nearly identical to a real world scene is simply somebody lacking in visual skills. This is NOT about art.
Anybody who believes they've seen a photo nearly identical to a real world scene is simply somebody lacking in visual skills. This is NOT about art.
"Getting it right" is getting it the way you (the creator) want it, whether "reality", "impressionistic", or "best aesthetic looks".
"Right" is an individual objective, perceived by the creator.
Aug 23, 2022 21:14:24 #
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User ID wrote:
SOOCers would not know "getting it right" if it bit them. They seem to espouse that "right" is when they compare their photo to their subject scene and find little to no differece.
Anybody who believes theyve seen a photo nearly identical to a real world scene is simply somebody lacking in visual skills. (This is NOT about art.)
Anybody who believes theyve seen a photo nearly identical to a real world scene is simply somebody lacking in visual skills. (This is NOT about art.)
and Aug 23, 2022 21:29:25 #
Longshadow wrote:
"Getting it right" is getting it the way you (the creator) want it, whether "reality", "impressionistic", or "best aesthetic looks".
"Right" is an individual objective, perceived by the creator.
"Getting it right" is getting it the way you (the creator) want it, whether "reality", "impressionistic", or "best aesthetic looks".
"Right" is an individual objective, perceived by the creator.
This really was my point, Longshadow. I had hoped to show the foolishness of the argument without creating 4 pages of arguments. I guess I have half-way succeeded, there are only 2 pages.
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Aug 23, 2022 21:39:29 #
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
Aug 23, 2022 21:40:19 #
Ansel Adams stated "You don't take a picture, you make it" ......enough said!
Fran
Fran
Aug 23, 2022 21:46:00 #
Toby wrote:
This really was my point, Longshadow. I had hoped to show the foolishness of the argument without creating 4 pages of arguments. I guess I have half-way succeeded, there are only 2 pages.
(Give it time......)
Aug 23, 2022 23:19:52 #
Ben's nana wrote:
Ansel Adams stated "You don't take a picture, you make it" ......enough said!
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Aug 23, 2022 23:56:42 #
User ID wrote:
Amen on false dichotomy.
OTOH, false dichotomies and strawman arguments etc are all pillars of the UHH Sacred Traditions, as well as being our root sources of amusing entertainment.
OTOH, false dichotomies and strawman arguments etc are all pillars of the UHH Sacred Traditions, as well as being our root sources of amusing entertainment.
And round 'n round 'n round 'n round they go.
Aug 24, 2022 07:30:21 #
Aug 25, 2022 14:40:04 #
[quote=CHG_CANON]If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of I studied with Ansel - and I can assure you that you have never seen anything from him that was "Straight Out Of The Camera" - he spent vastly more time in the dark room perfecting his images than he ever did taking them. I will share an Ansel Adams quote: "The image captured by your camera is only the starting point for creating the image that is in your mind" - A Adams
Aug 25, 2022 15:15:47 #
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CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of I studied with Ansel - and I can assure you that you have never seen anything from him that was "Straight Out Of The Camera" - he spent vastly more time in the dark room perfecting his images than he ever did taking them. I will share an Ansel Adams quote: "The image captured by your camera is only the starting point for creating the image that is in your mind" - A Adams
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Aug 25, 2022 16:59:16 #
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Some people can't seem to perceive that CHG_CANON often has his tongue firmly in his cheek.
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of I studied with Ansel - and I can assure you that you have never seen anything from him that was "Straight Out Of The Camera" - he spent vastly more time in the dark room perfecting his images than he ever did taking them. I will share an Ansel Adams quote: "The image captured by your camera is only the starting point for creating the image that is in your mind" - A Adams
Some people can't seem to perceive that CHG_CANON often has his tongue firmly in his cheek.
Aug 25, 2022 17:26:55 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
Some people can't seem to perceive that CHG_CANON often has his tongue firmly in his cheek.
Oh yes.
Love his quips.
Aug 25, 2022 19:24:34 #
Toby wrote:
Every few days someone posts comments about SOOC v... (show quote)
I'm going to basically disagree with every point you make. Which would just go on too long.
There is no such thing as Realism. Photos are SOOC JPG, maybe with global edits like exposure and crop, which correspond to the recent Reuters standars, or they are not. That is a photojournalistic standard. Beyond that, you can argue that you can achieve realism with global edits on RAW files (and I would accept that). Once you enter the realm of local edits, you are creating art.
Aug 25, 2022 19:25:23 #
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