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Aug 13, 2022 01:58:34   #
Hemp Imagery
 
User ID wrote:
The greater control one can exercise over their working situation, the less flexibility one requires from their basic camera and lens. Thaz always the no brainer trade off.


My quote in return is: Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.
Useful knowledge is king, no matter what equipment you use. Happy image capture, says the 35+ yr pro.

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Aug 13, 2022 05:48:45   #
User ID
 
Hemp Imagery wrote:
My quote in return is: Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.
Useful knowledge is king, no matter what equipment you use. Happy image capture, says the 35+ yr pro.

I jnow a woman who earned her living in specialized portraiture for many decades using the same old 4x5 camera with the shutter jammed at "open". She had total control of her fairly consistent working situation so the lack flexibility did not in the least cramp her creativity.

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Aug 13, 2022 06:40:42   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Hemp Imagery wrote:
As a studio photographer, using lights, that synch @1/60 & getting excellent results , the 1/400 ,just has no relevance for my studio use. Even for outdoor sports leagues, 1/200 is plenty fast to stop any movement expected. so it's a non issue for me ( It's like a lot of features on the Z9-I'll probably never use them. )



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Aug 13, 2022 08:55:06   #
Tomfl101 Loc: Mount Airy, MD
 
1/400 has significant advantage to a portrait photographer working outdoors and wanting to use the widest aperture possible. I have to use the extended ISO 50 on my R5 to get the additional stop but I believe the Sony A1 has the same capability. Sony wins!

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Aug 13, 2022 19:52:31   #
uhaas2009
 
autofocus wrote:
The one disadvantage of high speed sync is that it pulses the flash many times over the shutter cycle which will consume some of the battery life, and often provides a bit less light contributing to the overall exposure. HSS, on the other hand has it's advantages with it's use in freezing action.

With flash photography you have two sources of light that influences the overall exposure and the shutter speed controls the ambient light part of it. So, if you want a darker ambient, or you want your flash to freeze action you will need to use a faster shutter speed which will kill more of the ambient light. It's often misunderstood that flash will always freeze action, but that's not true. In trying to do that while use of a slower shutter speed can cause what's known as ambient blur. That happens because the flash fires a very quick burst when the shutter curtains are full open, but with slower shutter speeds, say 1/40 second, the shutter is still allowing light to come in after the flash has fired, and that's what can cause the blur. A while back I was explaining this to someone and I created a little video to demonstrate it, you can see it here if you wish: https://flic.kr/p/2neCGQB
The one disadvantage of high speed sync is that it... (show quote)


nice explained in your Video :)

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Aug 13, 2022 20:00:39   #
uhaas2009
 
User ID wrote:
Unfortunately theres no short explanation of the difference. I can make it simple, but not short :-(

High Speed Synch is not truly high speed (aka "strobe") flash. Its not actually flash synch at all. Its not synch and is not even flash. It was introduced decades ago by Olympus who called it by a more honest term, "FP Synch" (FP=focal plane). One could reasonably view HSS as no different than an old time flash bulb ... except its reusable instead of disposable.

Electronic flash has an extremely short duration. HSS lighting is long duration. Its actually continuous light and is NOT flash.

The important difference is whats sometimes called "synchro sun" flash. HSS does not allow for synchro sun.

With continuous light, whatever you do to adjust exposure affects both the ambient light and the additional light equally, thus you cannot alterr the balance between the two sources by adjusting the camera. The only method available is changing distance or adding physical attenuators to the HSS light.

With an actual high speed flash you can control the flash power via the flash controls and separately control the ambient light exposure via the camera controls. Thus you can directly control the flash-to-ambient lighting balance.

Whether using synchro sun or HSS, aperture affects the exposure of both sources equally. HOWEVER !!! high speed electronic flash duration is so short that its unaffected by the shutter speed while acoarst the shutter speed ALWAYS affects the ambient light exposure. THAT (!) is the whole key to using synchro sun for controlling the ambient-to-flash exposure balance.

The key point is that HSS is NOT actually flash. Its a CONTINUOUS source exactly the same as an LED video panel, except it uses a xenon gas tube instead of LEDs.

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If the above makes no sense to you, then just dont buy a Sony a1. That saves you 3 to 4 thousand $$ which you can spend on exotic lenses that will make you the envy of your entire camera club :-)
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Thank you this makes sence

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Aug 13, 2022 20:07:16   #
uhaas2009
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
HSS greatly reduces the duration (thus power output) of your strobe's power to enable pulsing the flash at a very fast rate, so you DO NOT have as much light illuminating your scene as with a single full power flash. .

The A1 with its 1/400 sec flash sync allows you to use the full power of your flash, better to light dark subjects, and better to light larger areas and subjects at greater distances , and better to overpower the sun. This is a huge advantage .

FYI, I am a longtime pro and I currently own Sony A1, A7RIV, A7SIII. And yes I have done all types of flash photos in my 48+ year pro career using all types of flashes and all brands of camera and flashes. This is truly a breakthrough for digital cameras.

Cheers and best to you all.
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Thank you this make sence :)

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Aug 13, 2022 20:31:34   #
gwilliams6
 
uhaas2009 wrote:
Thank you this make sence :)


You are welcome.

There is a lot of misunderstanding and misinformation about HSS and when to use it, and when it isn't the best solution, and many dont realize the power output penalty when using HSS. As an award-winning pro of over 48 years in the business that has shot all subjects around the world, including outdoors portraits and pro sports with flash, it is important to know the facts and make it all work for you.

Yes I use HSS at times, but my A1 with its 1/400 sec flash synch opens up new flash opportunities for overpowering the sun , shooting at wide open apertures in bright light, greater flash coverage , greater flash to subject distances, and stopping action and movement at 1/400 sec while being able to use the full output power of my flash, unlike the reduced flash power pulses necessary with HSS.

All my Godox/Flashpoint strobes are HSS-capable so that is no issue. I just like being able to do more at times with my A1 and its 1/400 sec flash synch in full frame, and its 1/500 sec flash synch in APS-C mode.

Cheers and best to you all..

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Aug 13, 2022 20:44:55   #
gwilliams6
 
Tomfl101 wrote:
1/400 has significant advantage to a portrait photographer working outdoors and wanting to use the widest aperture possible. I have to use the extended ISO 50 on my R5 to get the additional stop but I believe the Sony A1 has the same capability. Sony wins!


Exactly

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