Ignoring the Heat
Aug 11, 2022 05:04:01 #
cmc4214
Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
Plieku69 wrote:
50 years ago, remember that time? We were just kids and air-conditioning was rare. Few cars had it, most homes and businesses didn't.
How did people survive?
Now we hunker down in ac cooled houses, dash to an ac cooled automobile, rush into an ac cooled store.
If we spend more than 5 minutes outdoors we complain about heatstroke.
We have become a society of coddled whimps.
How did people survive?
Now we hunker down in ac cooled houses, dash to an ac cooled automobile, rush into an ac cooled store.
If we spend more than 5 minutes outdoors we complain about heatstroke.
We have become a society of coddled whimps.
Aug 11, 2022 06:48:01 #
f8lee wrote:
Well, it's always a good idea to get the government more involved in daily life - after all, they know what's best, right? Look at all the great things more government intrusion has done for our lives!
You are right - we just need to bring back the unions.
Aug 11, 2022 08:52:18 #
jerryc41 wrote:
My wife took a motorcycle course one summer. It was so hot that one person passed out and others left. The instructor refused to cancel. My wife came home.
Good for her. Sometimes you have to take a stand.
Aug 11, 2022 09:21:08 #
You're right. My math was incorrect. But the point I was making is that climate change is out of control, is destroying the world and no one is doing anything about it...at least not enough.
Aug 11, 2022 10:18:34 #
Burtzy wrote:
You're right. My math was incorrect. But the point I was making is that climate change is out of control, is destroying the world and no one is doing anything about it...at least not enough.
It's too late to do anything about climate change. We've known about this since the 1970s. That's when we should have started making changes. Whatever we do now will be too little too late. Mobile did a study, confirmed their role in the change, and then buried the report.
Aug 11, 2022 10:23:13 #
Sadly you're right and our children and grandchildren will suffer the consequences of our generations inaction, along with the rest of the world. But on the bright side, someday, when the earth has healed from the damage mankind has caused, some other species will rise and maybe they will be better stewards of the Earth when we (humans) are gone.
Aug 11, 2022 10:24:18 #
Burtzy wrote:
Sadly you're right and our children and grandchildren will suffer the consequences of our generations inaction, along with the rest of the world. But on the bright side, someday, when the earth has healed from the damage mankind has caused, some other species will rise and maybe they will be better stewards of the Earth when we (humans) are gone.
The earth without people would do just fine. Animals won't destroy the rain forests.
Aug 11, 2022 10:25:33 #
Aug 11, 2022 11:50:50 #
jerryc41 wrote:
With the extreme hot weather around the country, m... (show quote)
This isn't going to work in the United States This is not a matter for the Federal government, but for the individual states. Each state, plus Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands (and likely also Guam) is going to have its own policies.
I live in Dallas, where it has been over 100 F or 40 C for about a month now, but we're probably better able to handle it than somebody in Boston or New York where you may or may not have air conditioning. Just like we're not as able to handle winters like in Minneapolis, North Dakota, or places in Canada. At the same time, employers don't want employees dropping due to heat-related issues (or the reverse in winter).
There's a cost to everything, and air conditioning is expensive to operate. You can't do everything you can to limit energy use and expect 70 F or 22 C temperatures.
Aug 11, 2022 11:52:08 #
Blaster34 wrote:
Increased heat? Same heat today (give or take .25 ... (show quote)
Fully agree! I grew up in Hawaii (always warm), went to college in New Orleans (w/o air conditioning in summers of 95+ F / 35 + C, and I'm still alive and kicking 50 years later.
Aug 11, 2022 13:52:07 #
The high school that I attended from 1962 to 1966 never had A/C, in the classrooms. I do believe the library had a central air conditioning.
I was amazed to find out (5 years after graduation), that they school board (finally) installed A/C to the classrooms. What made it hot during the afternoons, was the fact that all the walls of the classrooms were red brick. The classroom became an experiment in convection oven science. 36 students giving off 98.6 degree Fahrenheit, helped to melt, even the hardiest of students.
Sadly, whenever I drive by that (hot) brick, school, I see most of the classroom doors standing wide open, with the A/C units doing their best to cool off the outdoor areas, as well as the classrooms.
I am reading a book that describes the influx of warmer climates in the USA, with the warmer weather changes ushering in the next "Ice Age". Amazing, but true. So, we are not seeing climate warming, as much as previewing the next 1000 years of an ice age, coming upon North America.
Follow the science, not the politics, Mr. Gore.
I was amazed to find out (5 years after graduation), that they school board (finally) installed A/C to the classrooms. What made it hot during the afternoons, was the fact that all the walls of the classrooms were red brick. The classroom became an experiment in convection oven science. 36 students giving off 98.6 degree Fahrenheit, helped to melt, even the hardiest of students.
Sadly, whenever I drive by that (hot) brick, school, I see most of the classroom doors standing wide open, with the A/C units doing their best to cool off the outdoor areas, as well as the classrooms.
I am reading a book that describes the influx of warmer climates in the USA, with the warmer weather changes ushering in the next "Ice Age". Amazing, but true. So, we are not seeing climate warming, as much as previewing the next 1000 years of an ice age, coming upon North America.
Follow the science, not the politics, Mr. Gore.
Aug 11, 2022 18:18:46 #
Funny I don't remember any of the schools I attend from 1st grade through 12th grade having air conditioning. Windows were open to allow a breeze to come in and it was supplemented with fans that stood in the corners of the room. I attended schools in Fla, Ala, and KY.
Aug 12, 2022 09:08:45 #
jerryc41 wrote:
With the extreme hot weather around the country, m... (show quote)
Here are some links to government sites with information about working in environmental heat:
https://www.osha.gov/heat
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/heatstress/default.html
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2021/43-work-related-deaths-due-to-environmental-heat-exposure-in-2019.htm
Aug 12, 2022 09:13:21 #
And here is one more link:
https://www.whistleblowers.gov/
It's a reactive solution...but employers are required to provide a safe working environment.
https://www.whistleblowers.gov/
It's a reactive solution...but employers are required to provide a safe working environment.
Aug 13, 2022 11:32:29 #
jerryc41 wrote:
With the extreme hot weather around the country, m... (show quote)
My s-i-l is deaf. Fortunately he's muscular and strong and a hard worker. As long as I've known him he's been involved cleaning swimming pools. His current employer hired him away from his previous employer to do less cleaning and more maintenance and design. However, the main pool cleaner quit, so my s-i-l got stuck cleaning all the pools this summer. That's 51 a week. He's been working 12 hours a day in this heat. Consider, though, how quickly he works, doing 10 pools a day during that time and in that heat. When he said something to his boss, he just told him he'd have to "suck it up." The boss, though, is not out cleaning any pools. After all, he's the boss!
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