gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

The data shows that this cycle of warming was kicked off by human development and the subsequent global manipulation of the environment. It’s not a "natural" occurrence because of the significant man made impacts, unless one wants to argue that we are children of nature and our advanced technology is thus part of nature. We can’t mitigate the climate effects from natural massive volcanism events but we can mitigate our human impacts through better management of the gasses we put into the atmosphere over time.

polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.

Junk Science

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

👍👍 Yes!

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Classic response from deniers who obviously don’t understand the science and wealth of data supporting it or the opinions of the vast majority of scientists that have spent their lives and compute resources studying the issue. Let me guess, it’s a world wide conspiracy…

polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.

A vast majority of the scientist have spent most of their lives trying to get grants even if they have to make up data.
Have a good day. I won't comment anymore or this will end up in the attic.

gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

Your bah humbug response is noted.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Not NOAA or NCAR or NCDC or NASA scientists or any of the others at the National Labs that acquire or analyze the data - they are not “grant getters, they are salaried scientists. I have spoken F2F with many of these people in my past career and seen the data directly off the satellites and it is undeniable. You don’t have to take anyone’s word or interpretation - just got to the NOAA or other sites and look at the sea temperatures, sea levels, atmospheric temps, polar ice melt, and atmospheric composition - you can look st the data directly off the NOAA and NASA satellites. End of my comments as well - have a good day also.

gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

Your support for scientific research is well said. We’re obviously trying to have a reasoned dialogue with unreasonable people who have no idea what science is or does. They’d rather live in their comforting womb of ignorance. They discount the evidence that shows the human caused connection to our current warming cycle and, since it’s human caused, humans have an obligation to mitigate their actions that are causing those effects. We act as if we’re incapable of slowing the car down when we chose to drive in a snowstorm and there’s ice on the road.

dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii

It won't be. The Earth is a closed system.

polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.

I don't doubt the satellite data or what you're saying. However how many years of satellite data is there? Sixty four years tops. The first satellite was launch in 1958 and I'm sure it didn't measure temperature. Based on a ice age cycle 60 years of data isn't a large enough model to draw any conclusions. There isn't any concrete data beyond a 100 years ago and out of at least 100,000 years since the last ice age warm period there is no data to compare it with. Also I'm sure the technology to measure temperature is more accurate today than it was even 50 years ago therefore a few degrees of difference could be a variation in the accuracy of the thermometers or the equipment. No matter how you look at it there is too small a base for any concrete decision. So it's still junk science! Good Day.

gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

Your commentary sounds exactly like the rational made by the New Earth Creationists when they argue that the earth is only 6000 years old, 10,000 tops. You pseudoscience argument conveniently leaves out the use of ancient glacial ice core samples and modern statistical methods that tie this current warming cycle to anthropomorphic causes.

polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.

Sorry the earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. No I don't rule out anything . Junk science is Junk science.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

I thought you were through. If not, then let’s have a reasoned discussion with actual evidence. i can produce mine complete with links. Where’s yours?

SteveHmeyer Loc: Cincinnati OH USA

Yes it has happened before and it will happen again - unlike sh*t - climate change does not just happen - climate change is driven by a mechanism - so what is driving it now? The release of carbon compounds by human activity is the PRIMARY mechanism hundreds of millions of years ago it may have been the shifting positions of continents - there are many drivers of climate change.

It is true that we are coming out of the last ice age - warming forced by the changing orbital geometry of the earth-sun system, but we are experiencing warming that the orbital geometry changes cannot possibly force.

When discussing climate change you must discuss what is forcing it.

If your opinion is that current changes are NOT caused by human activity your opinion is wrong.

The Science is 100% certain of that.

Stephan G

Just out of idle curiosity, would you say the information that we garner from under our feet is faulty? What of the tree rings from trees greater than a century old? I will omit the Arctic and Antarctic ice cores for the sake of brevity.

In regards to thermometers: "1848 the absolute temperature scale or Kelvin scale" (174 years ago.)

By the by, how did you come up with "at 100,000 years" stated above?

(I personally helped in unwrapping a person who lived over 4000 years ago. Per C14 testing.)

I know. "Junk Science".

As to the salient query of the OP. When attempting to solve your specific problem, there are many variables that can be looked at to come up with a workable solution. However, there is no one "perfect" solution because the variations are not static. One of the simplest solution is to envelop the pool with a leak proof container. Leak proof to the environment, that is. And it is probably the most expensive method at that. And you would not be able to swim in the pool.

Even though the drinking water in ISS is drawn off the urine, water has to be shipped to the space station periodically. The vessel sweats into space.

A Good Day? Indeed it is.