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Aug 8, 2022 08:33:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
sb wrote:
Oral vaccine is cheaper than injectable, is easier to administer in mass settings, and provides very good immunity. So it is still used in rural immunization drives in many countries. However - as stated, it may mutate into a wild strain and actually cause illness. Also, being a live virus vaccine, it should not be given to anyone who is immunocompromised or who lives with an immunocompromised person.

Polio is a virus that has no non-human vectors - it does not live in other animals. So the goal was to vaccinate everyone on the planet and therefore eradicate the disease entirely - like we did with smallpox. Wars, mass migrations, other civil disturbances, and vaccine skepticism have disrupted vaccination campaigns and allowed the disease to continue. In some countries rumors abound that vaccination workers are spies for the CIA or are plotting to kill Muslim children. This tends to discourage participation! Sadly there is factual basis for this fear - the CIA organized a vaccination program to collect DNA to pinpoint the location of Osama bin Laden. As good as those results turned out to be, vaccination program directors everywhere were horrified when this information became public.
Oral vaccine is cheaper than injectable, is easier... (show quote)


Right. In most discussions about contagious diseases, they mention the difficulty of immunizing people in the many war zones around the planet. Someone has to get rid of us and try a better species. Humans are worthless.

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Aug 8, 2022 11:11:37   #
lbrande
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
I'm old enough to have had both oral and needle vaccines, safe?


I had both also. I remember getting the oral vaccine in grade school in the 60's. My Dr. used a needle on my left arm. The school had lined the classes up and gave us small paper cups with the cherry red vaccine that we all "downed".

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Aug 8, 2022 11:23:47   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
The Spaniards brought diseases to the Americas that the indigenous peoples had no immunities against and the spread of disease killed them to near extinction.

History has a way of repeating itself and the influx of people crossing the borders has a great potential of bringing diseases with them that today's population in America has no immunities against. It's a very dangerous game of infectious roulette.

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Aug 8, 2022 12:19:27   #
srg
 
jerryc41 wrote:
All those people who think we are living in a simulation might be onto something, and the programmer is a sadist.

Polio is the latest worry. Ney York is urging everyone who has not been vaccinated for polio to get the shot(s) right away. The polio virus was discovered in two NY counties: Rockland and Orange. Those two counties are the home base for antivaxxers. They have the lowest overall vaccinate rate in NY State. There is one confirmed, paralyzed case of polio in one of those counties. The worry is that polio is a virus, and it spreads very easily - through touch, for example. There is no cure - only prevention. The state estimates that hundreds of people could now be carrying the virus. Some will not have symptoms; some will get sick; some will become paralyzed.

It's nice having "Freedom," but when your freedom allows you to spread a paralyzing disease, that's freedom gone too far.

A few months ago, the polio virus was discovered in wastewater in London. They think this was probably from people who received the oral vaccine in a foreign country. That's different from the vaccine given here. I don't know why other countries continue to use the oral vaccine because the disease can be spread that way.

If you don't know much about polio, a search will shock you. Polio caused widespread fear in the 1940s before vaccines were available. The virus disabled more than 35,000 people every year during that time, according to the CDC.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/polio-wastewater-samples-outside-new-york-city-suggest-community-spread.html

Humanity: Committing suicide by stupidity.
All those people who think we are living in a simu... (show quote)


God loves all of his creations.
Have you considered that lately he seems to favor viruses above us?

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Aug 8, 2022 13:03:38   #
ShelbyDave Loc: Lone Rock, WI
 
jerryc41 wrote:
All those people who think we are living in a simulation might be onto something, and the programmer is a sadist.

Polio is the latest worry. Ney York is urging everyone who has not been vaccinated for polio to get the shot(s) right away. The polio virus was discovered in two NY counties: Rockland and Orange. Those two counties are the home base for antivaxxers. They have the lowest overall vaccinate rate in NY State. There is one confirmed, paralyzed case of polio in one of those counties. The worry is that polio is a virus, and it spreads very easily - through touch, for example. There is no cure - only prevention. The state estimates that hundreds of people could now be carrying the virus. Some will not have symptoms; some will get sick; some will become paralyzed.

It's nice having "Freedom," but when your freedom allows you to spread a paralyzing disease, that's freedom gone too far.

A few months ago, the polio virus was discovered in wastewater in London. They think this was probably from people who received the oral vaccine in a foreign country. That's different from the vaccine given here. I don't know why other countries continue to use the oral vaccine because the disease can be spread that way.

If you don't know much about polio, a search will shock you. Polio caused widespread fear in the 1940s before vaccines were available. The virus disabled more than 35,000 people every year during that time, according to the CDC.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/polio-wastewater-samples-outside-new-york-city-suggest-community-spread.html

Humanity: Committing suicide by stupidity.
All those people who think we are living in a simu... (show quote)

It's nice having "Freedom," but when your freedom allows you to spread a paralyzing disease, that's freedom gone too far. I am so glad you said that. I totally agree. To me it should be criminal to not vaccinate. It is such a simple thing and has such a huge benefit to so many people it seems like a no brainer to get vaccinated. But fear mongers keep circulating myths about dangers of vaccination that scares people. When will we start to listen to the professionals about risks and stop listening to "Bubba" the high school dropout who knows everything about nothing. Sorry for the rant, but my mother passed away from covid three months before the vaccine became available because a family at the nursing home insisted on their father attend a birthday party. A party he came back from with covid. His was the first case of covid at a fine place that had up to that point kept everyone safe.

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Aug 8, 2022 13:11:45   #
rpatuto Loc: Falmouth, Massachusetts
 
No we are not dangerous. We are cautious. The Polio vaccine was and is a life saver. Not all vaccines are. You must educate yourself on the dangers of a vaccine, for example any vaccine run down you throat by the government needs to be investigated.

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Aug 8, 2022 13:45:04   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
ShelbyDave wrote:
It's nice having "Freedom," but when your freedom allows you to spread a paralyzing disease, that's freedom gone too far. I am so glad you said that. I totally agree. To me it should be criminal to not vaccinate. It is such a simple thing and has such a huge benefit to so many people it seems like a no brainer to get vaccinated. But fear mongers keep circulating myths about dangers of vaccination that scares people. When will we start to listen to the professionals about risks and stop listening to "Bubba" the high school dropout who knows everything about nothing. Sorry for the rant, but my mother passed away from covid three months before the vaccine became available because a family at the nursing home insisted on their father attend a birthday party. A party he came back from with covid. His was the first case of covid at a fine place that had up to that point kept everyone safe.
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You probably need to shed your “Bubba the high school dropout mentality” when trying to explain all that is wrong with America. If Jerry is correct about Rockland and Orange County then you can easily look up the demographics which will show a typical New York population and economy. One thing Rockland county does have and I am not suggesting a correlation (or maybe I am by merely pointing it out) is a 20.8% population born outside of the United
States.

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Aug 8, 2022 14:14:27   #
cytafex Loc: Clarksburg MA
 
Interesting enough it's the people in my circle who are vaccinated getting sick from Covid.

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Aug 8, 2022 14:25:20   #
Triple G
 
cytafex wrote:
Interesting enough it's the people in my circle who are vaccinated getting sick from Covid.


But, hopefully not from serious illness requiring hospitalization. That's the main reason to get vaccinated especially when over age 60.

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Aug 8, 2022 14:39:27   #
DMB70
 
Three years ago before a trip to Asia I found this information on the CDC site:
Some international destinations are considered high risk for polio. Before traveling to any Polio high-risk destination, CDC recommends that adults who previously completed the full, routine polio vaccine series receive a single, lifetime booster dose of polio vaccine (IPV). This is an inactivated vaccine so you can not get Polio from the shot. You might want to get the vaccine before there is a generalized recommendation for all adults to get the vacine even if not going to Asia
This includes most of Asia. The only issue is Medicare doesn't cover the jab. It costs around $250.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/alert/polio-asia?aA9pb=

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Aug 8, 2022 18:29:48   #
Michael Sabetsky Loc: Rockledge, Florida
 
Jerry. Perfect example of someone with polio was President Theodore Roosevelt but he didn't let him be side lined by it. On another note. Where in the Catskills do you live. As a young boy in the 50's my parents took my sister & me during the summer school break to the Grandhouse Bigalow Colony in South Fallsberg. Don't know if it's still there though.

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Aug 8, 2022 18:42:28   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
I had the vaccine about 70 years ago, hope it still works?

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Aug 8, 2022 18:55:24   #
srg
 
rpatuto wrote:
No we are not dangerous. We are cautious. The Polio vaccine was and is a life saver. Not all vaccines are. You must educate yourself on the dangers of a vaccine, for example any vaccine run down you throat by the government needs to be investigated.


You are so right. And while you are "investigating" so many will have died that there will be no more need for the evil vaccines. You are a brilliant one. What a great solution.

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Aug 8, 2022 19:36:36   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
srg wrote:
You are so right. And while you are "investigating" so many will have died that there will be no more need for the evil vaccines. You are a brilliant one. What a great solution.


My best friend got polio, laid in that big round thing for a year and one day he was gone; his mom told me that he just gave up...sad!!

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Aug 8, 2022 22:57:16   #
stevinri Loc: Rhode Island
 
Triple G wrote:
Anti-vaxxers are dangerous.


Do you know this as fact? if so please tell me.

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