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Aug 1, 2022 05:44:29   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You NEED A Gun.

Dennis


Personally I just remind idiots like that about the fact that the second amendment doesn't mention need but rather states that my right can't be infringed.

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Aug 1, 2022 10:33:22   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
Texcaster wrote:
When you were 10 years old semi-autos were 'open slather' in Oz and any unbalanced yobbo could get one. Ask NRA.


What does the NRA have to do with Australia? (A rhetorical question) And with the significant limitations forced upon your population, what do you actually know of true freedom and responsibility?

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Aug 1, 2022 13:44:21   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 

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Aug 1, 2022 16:43:37   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
chikid68 wrote:
Personally I just remind idiots like that about the fact that the second amendment doesn't mention need but rather states that my right can't be infringed.


Normally I do as well. But little Tex has a definite problem in that no matter WHAT common sense information you give him it won't make any difference in his thought process. He is only interested in doing away with firearms, ALL firearms, though he will swear he only wants to do away with the AR and AK type rifles for now. But of course after those are gone he will start on anything sounding like 9mm semi autos. The fact that I have Glock 40 caliber pistols doesn't bother him at all for the present. Glock 40 and 45 caliber pistols are perfectly fine. It is like Biden tells us, the 9mm is EVIL. Apparently other pistol calibers are GOOD calibers. Magazine size does not matter either with other pistols but with the 9mm it better be 10 or less. Up to 15 or more in a 40 is acceptable to little Tex.

The point is he doesn't know shit from Shinola regarding firearms. He only knows they are evil and need to be gone. Of course knives, baseball bats, claw hammers, screw drivers and hatchets, all great weapons of murder, used frequently, are not evil so are acceptable.

Dennis

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Aug 1, 2022 16:48:15   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Normally I do as well. But little Tex has a definite problem in that no matter WHAT common sense information you give him it won't make any difference in his thought process. He is only interested in doing away with firearms, ALL firearms, though he will swear he only wants to do away with the AR and AK type rifles for now. But of course after those are gone he will start on anything sounding like 9mm semi autos. The fact that I have Glock 40 caliber pistols doesn't bother him at all for the present. Glock 40 and 45 caliber pistols are perfectly fine. It is like Biden tells us, the 9mm is EVIL. Apparently other pistol calibers are GOOD calibers. Magazine size does not matter either with other pistols but with the 9mm it better be 10 or less. Up to 15 or more in a 40 is acceptable to little Tex.

The point is he doesn't know shit from Shinola regarding firearms. He only knows they are evil and need to be gone. Of course knives, baseball bats, claw hammers, screw drivers and hatchets, all great weapons of murder, used frequently, are not evil so are acceptable.

Dennis
Normally I do as well. But little Tex has a defin... (show quote)


You need to read better and to stop misrepresenting me with your pathetic straw men. You people are just not prepared to talk about regulation of semi-autos.

Tex sez ... *"Regulate ALL semi-autos."

*have you noticed I don't get any ... "IT"S NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE!!!" ... humbug from the usual characters?

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Aug 1, 2022 17:03:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Normally I do as well. But little Tex has a definite problem in that no matter WHAT common sense information you give him it won't make any difference in his thought process. He is only interested in doing away with firearms, ALL firearms, though he will swear he only wants to do away with the AR and AK type rifles for now. But of course after those are gone he will start on anything sounding like 9mm semi autos. The fact that I have Glock 40 caliber pistols doesn't bother him at all for the present. Glock 40 and 45 caliber pistols are perfectly fine. It is like Biden tells us, the 9mm is EVIL. Apparently other pistol calibers are GOOD calibers. Magazine size does not matter either with other pistols but with the 9mm it better be 10 or less. Up to 15 or more in a 40 is acceptable to little Tex.

The point is he doesn't know shit from Shinola regarding firearms. He only knows they are evil and need to be gone. Of course knives, baseball bats, claw hammers, screw drivers and hatchets, all great weapons of murder, used frequently, are not evil so are acceptable.

Dennis
Normally I do as well. But little Tex has a defin... (show quote)



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Aug 1, 2022 17:04:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Texcaster wrote:
You need to read better and to stop misrepresenting me with your pathetic straw men. You people are just not prepared to talk about regulation of semi-autos.

Tex sez ... *"Regulate ALL semi-autos."

*have you noticed I don't get any ... "IT"S NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE!!!" ... humbug from the usual characters?


And as usual you are full of CRAP. The 2nd Amendment does not discriminate about different firearms and semi autos have been around for over 100 years now. Never a problem before. Just one more type of firearm action. No matter whether a single shot or a repeater it is still the person that misuses the firearm and not the firearm that causes the person to become a murderer. How stupid you people on the Left must be to think like that. Even more stupid is your idiotic attempts to get me and others to believe in the same bullshit you are pushing.

Dennis

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Aug 1, 2022 17:57:34   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And as usual you are full of CRAP. The 2nd Amendment does not discriminate about different firearms and semi autos have been around for over 100 years now. Never a problem before. Just one more type of firearm action. No matter whether a single shot or a repeater it is still the person that misuses the firearm and not the firearm that causes the person to become a murderer. How stupid you people on the Left must be to think like that. Even more stupid is your idiotic attempts to get me and others to believe in the same bullshit you are pushing.

Dennis
And as usual you are full of CRAP. The 2nd Amendm... (show quote)


Boss UHHawg - "The 2nd Amendment does not discriminate about different firearms and semi autos have been around for over 100 years now."

No one said it did. You asked ... " The AR and AK platform rifles have been available for over 50 years now. Why were they not used for school killings back then? Anybody could buy them. No Liberal Bull Shit uproar back then. So what changed?"

*I told you what happened. You can't handle the fact that the US flipped out and Yanks slaughter Yanks at an ever accelerating rate. More mass shootings than calendar dates so far this year. What's your solution the the new 'shithole war zone US'? More guns? Bunker-up all public places and schools?

*Aug 1, 2022 05:30:26, this thread.

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Aug 1, 2022 18:07:18   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Texcaster wrote:
Boss UHHawg - "The 2nd Amendment does not discriminate about different firearms and semi autos have been around for over 100 years now."

No one said it did. You asked ... " The AR and AK platform rifles have been available for over 50 years now. Why were they not used for school killings back then? Anybody could buy them. No Liberal Bull Shit uproar back then. So what changed?"

*I told you what happened. You can't handle the fact that the US flipped out and Yanks slaughter Yanks at an ever accelerating rate. More mass shootings than calendar dates so far this year. What's your solution the the new 'shithole war zone US' ?

*Aug 1, 2022 05:30:26, this thread.
Boss UHHawg - "The 2nd Amendment does not dis... (show quote)


You told me what happened??? How the hell does anyone ever understand you and your constant insulting gibberish bullshit? You are nothing but Massa this, Cap'n that with about anything else in between. You never seem to GET nobody really pays any attention to your idiotic comments. I rarely read anything you post because of the above. I don't have the time to play childish simple games with you. You put down my employment as do others, employment that not one of you has the balls to take on, let alone excel in doing it with positive accomplishments.

For my money you contribute nothing of a positive nature nor have you ever in The Attic. You are a waste of time.

Dennis

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Aug 1, 2022 18:18:02   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You told me what happened??? How the hell does anyone ever understand you and your constant insulting gibberish bullshit? You are nothing but Massa this, Cap'n that with about anything else in between. You never seem to GET nobody really pays any attention to your idiotic comments. I rarely read anything you post because of the above. I don't have the time to play childish simple games with you. You put down my employment as do others, employment that not one of you has the balls to take on, let alone excel in doing it with positive accomplishments.

For my money you contribute nothing of a positive nature nor have you ever in The Attic. You are a waste of time.

Dennis
You told me what happened??? How the hell does an... (show quote)


LOL!

Be honest for once. You have all the time in the world for this attic nonsense.

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Aug 1, 2022 18:30:58   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Texcaster wrote:
LOL!

Be honest for once. You have all the time in the world for this attic nonsense.


You have no idea what I have or do not have in any way shape or manner. As a typical stereotyping Left Winger you like to tell yourself and others about me and other Conservatives but in real life, not your make up Cap'n bullshit, you have no clue except for what you see in movies and then do your best to fit me and others into that narrative. In that regard you are most likely the most confused member in The Attic.

Buh Bye now,

Dennis

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Aug 1, 2022 18:53:54   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
LoL

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Aug 1, 2022 18:58:14   #
cwp3420
 
Texcaster wrote:
Capt'n Bobo - "The AR and AK platform rifles have been available for over 50 years now. Why were they not used for school killings back then? Anybody could buy them. No Liberal Bull Shit uproar back then. So what changed? You tell me/us."

Up until the Columbine school shooting, school deaths were mostly single digit, usually one or two victims, starting in 1840. *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(before_2000)

*list does not include regular mass shootings, only school shootings.

After Columbine, blame is sheeted home to the lapse of the ban on military weapons and irresponsible gun merchant advertising.



This article gives a timeline of assault-weapons ban sunset and then Bush signed a bill that gave broad protection from liability to gun makers."

"The Gun Industry Created a New Consumer. Now It’s Killing Us." (edited by Tex, much more at link)

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/firearms-industry-marketing-mass-shooter/670621/

" ... When I got my first job in the gun industry, in 1995, the marketing centered on hunting, target shooting, and responsible self-defense. Many advertisements evoked a love of craftsmanship and the outdoors, and some, like this 1995 Ruger ad, even directly addressed its customers as “responsible citizens”—a tagline the company dropped from its advertising in 2007.

Companies such as the European American Armory, an importer of cheap, mostly Eastern European guns, that used cheesy ads—like this one from 2008—to sell imported guns were a rarity. Little did I realize that those tacky exceptions were the gun industry’s future. Those ads, designed to appeal to young men who knew no better, were the starting point for marketing that would create a new customer base and change our country forever.

This transformation received its first boost in the mid-aughts when President George W. Bush allowed the assault-weapons ban to sunset and then signed a bill that gave broad protection from liability to gunmakers. Combined, those moves reduced the social stigma and potential legal penalties for edgy marketing of military-style rifles.

Young men were the target. They had disposable income, a long customer life, and a readily exploited fascination with guns. The push to access these new customers took off in 2010 when the AR-15 maker Bushmaster launched its “Man Card” advertising campaign.

A Bushmaster ad with a picture of a rifle and the words, "Consider your man card reissued."
(Bushmaster Firearms International)
The ads, which ran in several gun-industry publications, on websites, and in Maxim magazine, were controversial and gained national attention. More important, they showed the rest of the industry the power of an appeal based on masculinity to the 18–35 male demographic, at a time when images from America’s foreign wars were airing constantly on the evening news.

“The Bushmaster Man Card declares and confirms that you are a Man’s Man, the last of a dying breed, with all the rights and privileges duly afforded,” the ad copy read. If you’re hearing there, in “dying breed,” an anticipatory echo of the “Great Replacement” theory that inspired the alleged killer in May’s mass shooting in Buffalo, New York, you’re not mistaken: The conclusion that this type of marketing has contributed to creating today’s radical violent extremists is inescapable. ... " more at ...

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/firearms-industry-marketing-mass-shooter/670621/
Capt'n Bobo - "The AR and AK platform rifles ... (show quote)


ROFLMMFAO! What stupidity.

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Aug 1, 2022 18:59:24   #
cwp3420
 
Texcaster wrote:
You need to read better and to stop misrepresenting me with your pathetic straw men. You people are just not prepared to talk about regulation of semi-autos.

Tex sez ... *"Regulate ALL semi-autos."

*have you noticed I don't get any ... "IT"S NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE!!!" ... humbug from the usual characters?


I hear you piss your panties when you see a photo of an M-16.

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Aug 1, 2022 19:10:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
cwp3420 wrote:
ROFLMMFAO! What stupidity.


And that is what I thought of his comments. Just more made up bullshit to suit the corrupt agenda of the Left.

Lil Tex seems to forget or never be aware of the FACT that military personnel coming out of a war time era tend to gravitate toward the firearms used in the war. They are used to that rifle/pistol and use it for a number of lawful purposes. This has been going on ever since The French and Indian War of 1763, Revolutionary War, War of 1812,
Mexican War of 1847, Civil War, Spanish American War and then WW1, WW2 and Korea. The Vietnam was was certainly no different. Just as in every other war fought by Americans Vietnam War veterans gravitated toward the AR and AK rifles in semi automatic legal versions. I carried an M14 and I did purchase a new Springfield M1A when they were available.

That is the history of American firearms. Those carried by the troops in wartime are cherished by those veterans who carried them. For the most part, they are accurate, will always fire when the trigger is pressed and will retain their value. Their usage as a self defense weapon has already been proven and if there is ever a need for a militia to be called out a similar military weapon that in service is already in the hands of militia members.

Dennis

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