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Jul 27, 2022 13:36:36   #
alvin3232 Loc: Houston, TX
 
HI
Before any upgrade, make sure that your PC will support Windows 11, and ensure that your CPU will as there are some changes on what CPU's are supported. For me, I will do a clean install but that is me. If you are running an intel CPU review link below.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors


Alvin

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Jul 27, 2022 14:41:09   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
alvin3232 wrote:
HI
Before any upgrade, make sure that your PC will support Windows 11, and ensure that your CPU will as there are some changes on what CPU's are supported. For me, I will do a clean install but that is me. If you are running an intel CPU review link below.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors


Alvin


You can't place full trust in the information on that site.
I'm running an ancient i3-2100 with windows 11 pro and it performs great in fact it runs my batch processing in my Photoshop and I load in a few hundred raw files at a time

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Jul 27, 2022 14:58:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
chikid68 wrote:
You can't place full trust in the information on that site.
I'm running an ancient i3-2100 with windows 11 pro and it performs great in fact it runs my batch processing in my Photoshop and I load in a few hundred raw files at a time

No one worries about "ancient" anymore. Only the latest and maybe next recent are considered for evaluation.
Not the "old stuff".

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Jul 27, 2022 15:39:50   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
Cheese wrote:
I would like to upgrade my computer to Windows 11. I keep getting pop-ups from Microsoft suggesting I upgrade.

If you have upgraded a Win 10 computer to Win 11, can you tell me:

1. Approx how long does the upgrade take?

2. Do I need to sit in front of the screen the whole time, or can I start the upgrade at night and go to bed?

3. Approx how much free hard drive space does Win 11 need? I have a 4 TB HDD, but only have about 200 GB of free space.

Thanks.


1. I have computers with both windows 10 and 11. The look of the two operating sysyems is very different but other wise more or less the same. There is no big reason to upgrade.

2. I NEVER upgrade a computer operating system on a computer I am using regularly. There can be hardware issues that cannot be fixed or are no worth the time to fix. If isn't broken don't fix it.

3. You have very minimal space on your hard drive I would not upgrade using this drive. You could clone this drive to an 8gb drive and see if all works well with no upgrade and then attempt the upgrade keeping your original drive safe in case you want to go back.

4. The time it takes will in part depent on your internet speed. It could potenially take hours.

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Jul 27, 2022 16:24:17   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
fetzler wrote:
1. I have computers with both windows 10 and 11. The look of the two operating sysyems is very different but other wise more or less the same. There is no big reason to upgrade.

2. I NEVER upgrade a computer operating system on a computer I am using regularly. There can be hardware issues that cannot be fixed or are no worth the time to fix. If isn't broken don't fix it.

3. You have very minimal space on your hard drive I would not upgrade using this drive. You could clone this drive to an 8gb drive and see if all works well with no upgrade and then attempt the upgrade keeping your original drive safe in case you want to go back.

4. The time it takes will in part depent on your internet speed. It could potenially take hours.
1. I have computers with both windows 10 and 11. ... (show quote)


If you move the bottom tool bar to left (instead of centered) and personalize your screen background, there’s very little difference in the look and feel if you don’t utilize the new “features”. If I had a good performing Win 10 machine, I don’t see any reason to rush to move to 11. I just went ahead because it was a new machine build. In general, I avoid the “bleeding edge” with new SW or patches, but Win 11 seems very stable and similar enough to 10 that I didn’t need to change any peripheral drivers.

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Jul 27, 2022 16:29:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TriX wrote:
If you move the bottom tool bar to left (instead of centered) and personalize your screen background, there’s very little difference in the look and feel if you don’t utilize the new “features”. If I had a good performing Win 10 machine, I don’t see any reason to rush to move to 11. I just went ahead because it was a new machine build.

My new laptop came with 11, my wife's 2 year old laptop came with 10.
She asked me what I thought of 11 because she kept getting the upgrade pop-ups.
I told her "nice", so she let hers update to 11.

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Jul 28, 2022 03:20:06   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
No one worries about "ancient" anymore. Only the latest and maybe next recent are considered for evaluation.
Not the "old stuff".


True although I was offering proof that the minimum specs listed actually exceed the actual minimum specs required.
My goal is to continue installing it on progressively lower spec systems and ultimately determine the true minimum specs.
One reason I have the setup on flash drive so I don't have to download it each time.

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Jul 28, 2022 08:37:01   #
Bayou
 
Cheese wrote:
...I have a 4 TB HDD, but only have about 200 GB of free space...


This is a major problem that should be resolved before doing anything else to this machine. This is a staggering amount of data for a system disk. You may have a runaway Windows process that is making redundant folders of unneeded temp file junk. Running the Windows Disk Cleanup may yield surprising results.

Or if you are storing photos/videos/music on the C: drive, those files should be (properly!) moved to externals. It's poor practice to store precious data files on a system disk.

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Jul 28, 2022 08:38:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Cheese wrote:
I would like to upgrade my computer to Windows 11. I keep getting pop-ups from Microsoft suggesting I upgrade.

If you have upgraded a Win 10 computer to Win 11, can you tell me:

1. Approx how long does the upgrade take?

2. Do I need to sit in front of the screen the whole time, or can I start the upgrade at night and go to bed?

3. Approx how much free hard drive space does Win 11 need? I have a 4 TB HDD, but only have about 200 GB of free space.

Thanks.


Get a larger hard drive! That drive is way too full. Ideally, you would have a 500 - 1000GB SSD C drive for the OS and programs. Use a separate HDD for all your data.

You don't have to sit by the computer. It will restart as necessary.

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/full-should-let-hard-drive-get-79132.html
https://platinumdatarecovery.com/blog/is-it-bad-to-fill-up-full-hard-drives-capacity
https://www.datanumen.com/blogs/will-happen-hard-drive-full/

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Jul 28, 2022 10:51:22   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Get a larger hard drive! That drive is way too full. Ideally, you would have a 500 - 1000GB SSD C drive for the OS and programs. Use a separate HDD for all your data.

You don't have to sit by the computer. It will restart as necessary.

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/full-should-let-hard-drive-get-79132.html
https://platinumdatarecovery.com/blog/is-it-bad-to-fill-up-full-hard-drives-capacity
https://www.datanumen.com/blogs/will-happen-hard-drive-full/



But you don't need a large hard drive as C:. Mine (SSD) is only 500 GB, and at the moment it's 27.7% full! - including installing literally tons of programs over the last year or so. The key is to put everything - pretty much except the files needed for the OS to function properly - on your second hard drive, sized as necessary to accommodate everything else. The Drive C: should be an SSD, but the second can be either a spinner or SSD - it doesn't much matter.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Jul 28, 2022 11:31:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rlv567 wrote:
But you don't need a large hard drive as C:. Mine (SSD) is only 500 GB, and at the moment it's 27.7% full! - including installing literally tons of programs over the last year or so. The key is to put everything - pretty much except the files needed for the OS to function properly - on your second hard drive, sized as necessary to accommodate everything else. The Drive C: should be an SSD, but the second can be either a spinner or SSD - it doesn't much matter.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City
But you don't need a large hard drive as C:. Mine... (show quote)


I have 500GB, too, and there's plenty of room left. Having lots of excess room is important for an SSD so it will last longer by spreading out the writing.

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Jul 28, 2022 11:49:29   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Yep, 500GB should be plenty for the system drive - I have a zillion aps also and only using about 240. However, you can always partition a 1 TB drive and use the 2nd partition for data. With the cost of SSDs today, not much reason left not to avail yourself of the reliability and speed of an m.2 SSD. And if you don’t have an m.2 slot, you can buy a PCIe to m.2 adapter card for $10-15. The latest m.2 SSD from Samsung (980 Pro) sells for $139 for 1 TB and benchmarks on my system at 6.6 GBytes/sec read. Now that is just screaming…

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