Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register ☰
Main Photography Discussion
Strange Storage Choice
Page <<first <prev 3 of 4 next>
Jul 24, 2022 18:56:26   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
aellman wrote:
To all on this subject: regardless of what type of home-based storage you have, you are at risk without (as mentioned) cloud backup. Carbonite is an excellent choice.


Also not true. Off site backup is essential, but it can be accomplished many ways and without going near the cloud. Best of luck.

Reply
Jul 24, 2022 19:12:01   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
User ID wrote:
Why did you call him a professional when clearly he is not ?


No offense, but the way he chooses to store images is not an indication of his professionalism.

As shown by this thread there is no agreement about how to store image files.

Ed

Reply
Jul 24, 2022 19:12:45   #
rcarol
 
User ID wrote:
Why did you call him a professional when clearly he is not ?


By definition, a professional photographer is one that derives income from his trade and has nothing to do with how he stores his files.

Reply
 
 
Jul 24, 2022 19:13:55   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Bison Bud wrote:
There is a risk with any kind of storage! Personally, I don't see a thumb drive as being a much higher risk as anything else. The secret is to have multiple backups and at least to me, using thumb drives as one of those multiple backups is a perfectly viable option. I wouldn't put all my proverbial eggs in one basket or backup data in any one type of storage or only in one place. I have personally never lost anything I've put on a thumb drive, but have lost multiple, mechanical hard drives over my years of computing.
There is a risk with any kind of storage! Persona... (show quote)



Reply
Jul 24, 2022 19:21:05   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
cjc2 wrote:
That is correct. An array of five(5), five (5) GB drives would yield about 15GB of storage under RAID 5.


Hope you're talking about Terabytes (TB).

Reply
Jul 24, 2022 19:31:37   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
Nope...I am serious. Zero backup scheme and horrible original placeholder. Oh, well. We all have our faults. Shoots great stuff, though.

Reply
Jul 24, 2022 19:32:36   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:


True...and well taken.

Reply
 
 
Jul 24, 2022 19:42:48   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
Bison Bud wrote:
There is a risk with any kind of storage! Personally, I don't see a thumb drive as being a much higher risk as anything else. The secret is to have multiple backups and at least to me, using thumb drives as one of those multiple backups is a perfectly viable option. I wouldn't put all my proverbial eggs in one basket or backup data in any one type of storage or only in one place. I have personally never lost anything I've put on a thumb drive, but have lost multiple, mechanical hard drives over my years of computing.
There is a risk with any kind of storage! Persona... (show quote)


Agreed! Problem is...that is where the originals are...and nowhere else. To each their own, I guess. He hasn't had an issue yet, but I am reluctant to handle any USBs of his, lol.

Thank you all for your comments.

Reply
Jul 24, 2022 19:47:39   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Hope you're talking about Terabytes (TB).


Yep, sorry!!

Reply
Jul 24, 2022 20:28:16   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I prefer HDD or SSD for storage.


Ya! That's what I'm saying. Thanks for the comment.

Reply
Jul 24, 2022 22:03:33   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I never read the fine print, but Amazon always advertises free unlimited storage for Prime members. I uploaded some pictures a while back but never checked to see if it was truly unlimited.
I found this one still there.



Reply
 
 
Jul 25, 2022 02:26:53   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
OzWizard wrote:
I do small product advertising and architecture for selective clients. Many times a client has contacted me, and requested a previous image or an adjustment. My image files are quite large, and a reliable storage system was a must. I use a Raid 5 system. in a server connected to my computer, there are five, five terabyte hard drives. All with the same information. If one should fail, I replace it. And all the same, information is automatically added to the new drive. I have found this to be very reliable.
I do small product advertising and architecture fo... (show quote)


Good on you! I wish I had that kind of system. I have several external drives and online redundant storage.

Reply
Jul 25, 2022 09:38:24   #
Joexx
 
cjc2 wrote:
That is correct. An array of five(5), five (5) GB drives would yield about 15GB of storage under RAID 5.


Small correction. In your example, Raid 5 would use 4/5 of the drives for data, and 1/5 for a parity bit. That means about 20GB of storage

Reply
Jul 25, 2022 11:57:27   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Joexx wrote:
Small correction. In your example, Raid 5 would use 4/5 of the drives for data, and 1/5 for a parity bit. That means about 20GB of storage


Not exactly. The parity is spread among the drives. Try it and you'll see. I have a 6 x 10TB system that yields 43TB. You need to read up on RAID. Best of luck.

Reply
Jul 25, 2022 12:09:13   #
gwilliams6
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
DVD/CD storage isn't a lot better. Disks vary widely in quality. I have had disks (from the low bidder) become unreadable in 3 years. And I have had disks that I burned 25 years ago still readable. But even if you use the best CD/DVD media, they don't hold enough to be really practical. A DVD holds less than 5 GBytes. I can shoot 20 GBytes in a single shoot. If I stored all my photos on DVDs I would have a few hundred DVDs to deal with. Then finding the right one becomes a REAL chore.

Best current storage medium is a hard drive.

Safest current storage medium is a cloud backup from a reputable provider.

But everyone is entitled to their own mistakes.
DVD/CD storage isn't a lot better. Disks vary wide... (show quote)


I agree with dirtfarmer here. As a working pro of over 48 years in the business, I too have some images stored on DVD/CD discs from back in the early days of digital photography when the image sizes were tiny . Yes some cheaper disc can be unreadable after a few years.

The best quality longest-lasting ones were the gold-impregnated discs once made and sold relatively cheaply by Kodak. They are expensive to find now. These are archival grade and will last and remain readable over 115 years. But also have limited file storage capacity per disc.
https://www.amazon.com/MAM-Mitsui-DVD-Rs-Archival-grade-Cakebox/dp/B0011B91HA/ref=sr_1_4?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_viWBhD8ARIsAH1mCd4s7mpOQm-cCIF808Y6TeJOOcXZhFkuxlHeoGsbkAGnknp7zS6uKk4aAiA6EALw_wcB&hvadid=233518719833&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9027222&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=12032506382119038642&hvtargid=kwd-1872090071&hydadcr=18888_10145605&keywords=archival+grade+dvd&qid=1658765397&s=electronics&sr=1-4

With image file sizes now, I have fully transitioned to hard drives, and many of them SSD drives. But even these need to be copied and updated after some years as they too can get corrupted over time.

Cloud backup storage is no perfect solution either, as clouds have gone down and millions of images worldwide have been lost forever, really.

The best you can do is use multiple backup storage options and keep updating and copying every few years if you possibly can.

Cheers

Reply
Page <<first <prev 3 of 4 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
Home | Latest Digest | Back to Top | All Sections
Contact us | Privacy policy | Terms of use | DMCA
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.