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Jul 21, 2022 13:25:41   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DennyT wrote:
I thought it was stated once that texting is not part of SS official communication. It us merely agent to agent .


I'm not claiming you are wrong, because I really don't know, but that runs counter to what I've been hearing.

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Jul 21, 2022 14:06:07   #
bluezzzzz Loc: Stamping Ground, KY
 
Frank T wrote:
They took an oath to the Constitution, not to a fat guy with a red hat.
There appears to be a cover-up going on at the secret service and it needs to be investigated with those responsible fired and indicted.
This is not acceptable.


Exactly right, Frank T.

Throughout his lifetime Trump has corrupted everything and everybody around him, and now it seems that the Secret Service is no exception to that pattern.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/18/jan-6-probe-renews-questions-about-secret-service-independence/


Marshall

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Jul 21, 2022 16:10:12   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
Oh prove a negative. The basic tool of all conspirators


How would you classify your comment? Who are calling a conspirator?

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Jul 21, 2022 17:36:20   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
mikee wrote:
She also did it without a note in front of her or a lawyer at her side.


She is a lawyer herself, or did you overlook that part. She also limited the scope of the questions.

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Jul 22, 2022 00:54:56   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
WNYShooter wrote:
It's because they don't want to get involved in the Political Theater which the Dems are running.

Political theater?

The ONLY political theater is coming from the GOP trying to cover their butts because they've basically been caught red handed up to their eyeballs in the January 6, 2021 Insurrection and trump's attempted coup.

Look at Josh Hawley, his fist held up in in solidarity with the protesters on his way into the US Capitol Building, then running from the mob like a scared child once the Insurrections had breached the US Capitol Building.

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Jul 22, 2022 01:05:41   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Trump doesn't have that authority.

It doesn't take "authority" to break the law!

The Secret Service failed to follow the Records Retention Law after they were reminded and advised multiple times to back up their data, which had been requested by multiple committees.

It wasn't a one off request.

It wasn't a minor slip-up, it's a concerted effort to HIDE their involvement in a major cover-up.

It wasn't an accident that all of those text messages from 1/5 & 1/6 dissapeared.

The question should be how high up the chain of command did the cover-up go?

It's not a coincidence that the head of the Secret Service has just announced his retirement.

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Jul 22, 2022 01:07:02   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Political theater?

The ONLY political theater is coming from the GOP trying to cover their butts because they've basically been caught red handed up to their eyeballs in the January 6, 2021 Insurrection and trump's attempted coup.

Look at Josh Hawley, his fist held up in in solidarity with the protesters on his way into the US Capitol Building, then running from the mob like a scared child once the Insurrections had breached the US Capitol Building.


Lol OMFG the lunacy of your insurrection and coup attempt conspiracy is just as laughable as your Russia/Trump collusion conspiracy BS. You are just adding up your own made of b******* as usual you don't know why they did what they did or their intent. MGYRFS

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Jul 22, 2022 01:17:13   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
It doesn't take "authority" to break the law!

The Secret Service failed to follow the Records Retention Law after they were reminded and advised multiple times to back up their data, which had been requested by multiple committees.

It wasn't a one off request.

It wasn't a minor slip-up, it's a concerted effort to HIDE their involvement in a major cover-up.

It wasn't an accident that all of those text messages from 1/5 & 1/6 dissapeared.

The question should be how high up the chain of command did the cover-up go?

It's not a coincidence that the head of the Secret Service has just announced his retirement.
It doesn't take "authority" to break the... (show quote)


MGYRS, Trump can't do anything or order ANY Secret Service agents to do or say anything, he does NOT have the power or authority. MGYRS.

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Jul 22, 2022 01:22:41   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
So dumb, Trump doesn't have the authority therefore he has no power over the decisions of the secret service.

trump was the Commander and Chief, the Secret Service falls under his purview under the Executive branch of Government.

The Secret Service reports to the US Department of Homeland Security, which reports to the White House.

So yes, trump would have had that kind of authority while he was still in office.

But I'm not too sure that trump would have been thinking that clearly to order the destruction of records by the Secret Service, when trump was still fuming about his failed attempted coup.

Don't forget that trump took all of those boxes of records from the White House to Mar-A-Lago.

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Jul 22, 2022 01:25:03   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
DennyT wrote:
You have no proof or even hint at that . Where did you get that ? Facebook ?

There's now a Criminal Investigation into the destruction of records by the Secret Service!

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Jul 22, 2022 01:25:11   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
trump was the Commander and Chief, the Secret Service falls under his purview under the Executive branch of Government.

The Secret Service reports to the US Department of Homeland Security, which reports to the White House.

So yes, trump would have had that kind of authority while he was still in office.

But I'm not too sure that trump would have been thinking that clearly to order the destruction of records by the Secret Service, when trump was still fuming about his failed attempted coup.

Don't forget that trump took all of those boxes of records from the White House to Mar-A-Lago.
trump was the Commander and Chief, the Secret Serv... (show quote)


MGYRFS, Trump is currently NOT the President and does NOT have the power or authority to order the SS to do anything on this issue. What part of that do you fail to see??

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Jul 22, 2022 01:27:31   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
There's now a Criminal Investigation into the destruction of records by the Secret Service!


So stupid, the Secret Service regularly deletes texts often this is no different. Please stop with your insane rhetoric that the Secret Service is hiding something nefarious. You're putting yourself at risk to look like a conspiracy lunatic, oh never mind that was done a long time ago.

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Jul 22, 2022 01:29:42   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
MGYRS, Trump can't do anything or order ANY Secret Service agents to do or say anything, he does NOT have the power or authority. MGYRS.

The Chain of command says you're wrong.

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Jul 22, 2022 01:30:41   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The Chain of command says you're wrong.


LOL NO, there is NO chain of command in respect with Trump on the operations and decisions of the SS, MGYRS.

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Jul 22, 2022 01:40:23   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
MGYRFS, Trump is currently NOT the President and does NOT have the power or authority to order the SS to do anything on this issue. What part of that do you fail to see??

I stated that while trump was still in office, that trump would have had that authority.

We don't know yet, WHEN the texts were deleted, do we?

So if it was between January 6, 2021 and noon on January 20, 2021, trump DID have the authority to order the Secret Service to delete their texts.

If the orders came after noon on January 20, 2021, then no trump didn't have any authority to order the deletion of those texts.

That doesn't mean that the orders didn't come from a trump loyalist.

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