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Jul 6, 2022 15:09:19   #
James May
 
I should of said I would delete back in hotel room at night

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Jul 6, 2022 15:15:53   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
James May wrote:
A friend at the; local store said he was talking to a Nikon rep and he said never delete photos in-camera it can corrupt the card.



If true, the camera's firmware is in error and needs to be fixed and updated. If the corruption is caused by the user, then the firmware should be fixed to reject any other function until the deletion completes. I agree with Paul about waiting until you are processing your images to delete any. His reasoning is sound.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:33:52   #
BigOldArt Loc: Seminole, FL
 
[quote=Robertl594 This will save you loads of time when you transfer them to your computer.[/quote]

YMMV but my time to read an SD card into the computer is very short.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:37:48   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
delder wrote:
I almost NEVER delete in camera.
Time & Battery considerations.
Try a larger card & a spare.

I save ALL photos then selectively delete from card or replace card.


Both valid reasons. But nothing to do with corrupting the memory card. And yes...larger cards are a good idea for many reasons.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:47:17   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Two things happen when you review and delete images in the camera:

1) You waste valuable battery.

2) You miss action you should be capturing.

BTW: even with the mirrorless ability to zoom the display of images in the view finder, that display is nothing as accurate as viewing the images later on your large computer monitor.

So, isn't capturing more images far, far more important bothering about how long it takes to offload images later? If your primary concern is time to offload images, maybe there's other solutions that are more relevant, like why burst 20?
Two things happen when you review and delete image... (show quote)


The wasted batteries are not particularly valuable as they are rechargeable, and any photographer worth his salt will have at least one spare.

Sometimes the action is periodic, with gaps between displays. Using this time to review can be helpful.
Even when this is not the case reviewing after changing settings/lens/filter can also be a benefit. Sometimes this has reminded me I had IBIS set at an extreme focal length (500mm) which was no longer appropriate. Other times it's helped hone into the most effective settings for a particular subject, or shown the actual affect of a filter (which can be somewhat unpredictable with IR).

Deleting in camera is rarely a benefit these days, but was something I needed to do in my early digital days when cards only help 1GB or less & spare cards were not so affordable. Ten minutes deleting bad/mediocre shots on one visit to a castle, that provided more photo opportunities than expected, solved the 'out of memory' message.

Capturing more images is pointless if they will be rubbish, appropriate reviewing can help prevent this.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:54:33   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
petrochemist wrote:
The wasted batteries are not particularly valuable as they are rechargeable, and any photographer worth his salt will have at least one spare.

Sometimes the action is periodic, with gaps between displays. Using this time to review can be helpful.
Even when this is not the case reviewing after changing settings/lens/filter can also be a benefit. Sometimes this has reminded me I had IBIS set at an extreme focal length (500mm) which was no longer appropriate. Other times it's helped hone into the most effective settings for a particular subject, or shown the actual affect of a filter (which can be somewhat unpredictable with IR).

Deleting in camera is rarely a benefit these days, but was something I needed to do in my early digital days when cards only help 1GB or less & spare cards were not so affordable. Ten minutes deleting bad/mediocre shots on one visit to a castle, that provided more photo opportunities than expected, solved the 'out of memory' message.

Capturing more images is pointless if they will be rubbish, appropriate reviewing can help prevent this.
The wasted batteries are not particularly valuable... (show quote)


Guess you need a lot of extra batteries and cards if you're just likely to shoot rubbish. Others have higher aspirations, based on their consistent accomplishments.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:55:59   #
1grumpybear
 
I have been deleting pictures in camera for many years. With sports if you wait for the shot you are never going to get it. So I fire away, but during a break or time out or the end of a quater I will scroll thru the pictures I have shot and delete the ones that are not what I am looking for. I have owned my first Z9 now for 6 months and if any thing the battery last longer in the Z9 than my D6 or D850 with the battery pack. I aways carry a backup battery. If I am on the road I carry a 12 volt DC to 120 AC converter so I am able to charge my batteries. With my second Z9 I now have 4 Z9 batteries. I sometimes shoot over a 1000 pictures and still have battery life in 30% range. I wouldn't worry about deleting pictures, I probably wasted more battery life by forgetting to turn the camera off. I hope you are enjoying the Z9 as much as I am.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:57:01   #
Zooman 1
 
I have deleted in camera with no problems. Usually, the ones that are obviously no good. But, I do not edit images in camera. I don't know of anyone who stops and deletes from camera while shooting is going on. How about you do what you want either delete in camera or not. Then decide if you want to continue deleting in camera.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:57:44   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
I have been shooting digital over 30 yrs, and while I generally format in camera, I also delete in camera. Never an issue. Methinks your Nikon rep is just talking rubbish.

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Jul 6, 2022 15:58:56   #
shoelessjoe
 
You could inadvertently remove a good photo in the field as well as waste time and battery life. I don't delete anything from the card until I have them loaded into my home computer imported into LR and backup. At that point I have enough duplicity to remove photos from the card which I do by reformatting the card.

I do recall, reading or hearing, that you shouldn't format the card in a card reader attached to your system but should rather do it in camera.

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Jul 6, 2022 16:00:14   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
James May wrote:
A friend at the; local store said he was talking to a Nikon rep and he said never delete photos in-camera it can corrupt the card.
I have just got my new Nikon Z9 and shooting 20 frames per second it would be nice to review which one or two photos came out 100% clear and delete the rest. then keep going on your shoot. Then when you get home you only have to download the good images to work on.
What is everyone's thought and have they heard from a Nikon tech that's a bad idea to delete photos in-camera?
A friend at the; local store said he was talking t... (show quote)


I find it hard to believe a Nikon rep would claim Nikon don't know how to access memory cards correctly!
Perhaps constantly deleting a few files then taking shots & then deleting more at random might lead to a highly fragmented card, but this is very different to 'never delete'.

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Jul 6, 2022 16:35:12   #
Valenta Loc: Top of NZ
 
Well said Paul

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Jul 6, 2022 16:41:06   #
Steve V Loc: New Jersey
 
[quote=James May]A friend at the; local store said he was talking to a Nikon rep and he said never delete photos in-camera it can corrupt the card.
I have just got my new Nikon Z9 and shooting 20 frames per second it would be nice to review which one or two photos came out 100% clear and delete the rest. then keep going on your shoot. Then when you get home you only have to download the good images to work on.
What is everyone's thought and have they heard from a Nikon tech that's a bad idea to delete photos in-camera?



I recently had two cards go bad and had to run recovery programs to get data back. They were SanDisk 128G.

I have deleted in camera often prior to this incident without problems, always using smaller cards from the same manufacturer.

In the future I am sticking with smaller capacity cards with one slot always a back up. And downloading all at home. Most of my edit/deletions in camera were because I was lazy and at the end of the card, needed room for more shots, that I would probably delete. I thought the cards were pretty secure until this incident.

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Jul 6, 2022 16:47:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
shoelessjoe wrote:
I do recall, reading or hearing, that you shouldn't format the card in a card reader attached to your system but should rather do it in camera.


Many cameras create special folders and files on a memory card as the last part of the formatting process. The specific camera uses that data for its general operations.

If you format the card on a computer, you do get the standard data directory and other standard structures, but you don't put the camera-specific folders and data on there.

Some recent models, but not all cameras, will test for those structures and put them there if you insert a NEW card.

I ran into this issue here at home because my wife uses a Nikon and a Canon and my twins and I use three Lumix bodies. We had some issues with unreadable cards and corrupted image files until we segregated the cards by camera brand.

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Jul 6, 2022 16:52:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
[quote=Steve V]
James May wrote:
A friend at the; local store said he was talking to a Nikon rep and he said never delete photos in-camera it can corrupt the card.
I have just got my new Nikon Z9 and shooting 20 frames per second it would be nice to review which one or two photos came out 100% clear and delete the rest. then keep going on your shoot. Then when you get home you only have to download the good images to work on.
What is everyone's thought and have they heard from a Nikon tech that's a bad idea to delete photos in-camera?



I recently had two cards go bad and had to run recovery programs to get data back. They were SanDisk 128G.

I have deleted in camera often prior to this incident without problems, always using smaller cards from the same manufacturer.

In the future I am sticking with smaller capacity cards with one slot always a back up. And downloading all at home. Most of my edit/deletions in camera were because I was lazy and at the end of the card, needed room for more shots, that I would probably delete. I thought the cards were pretty secure until this incident.
A friend at the; local store said he was talking t... (show quote)


Many folks don't realize that memory cards — especially SD and Micro SD flavors — are somewhat fragile. They can be damaged by static electricity, liquid intrusion, pocket lint, change, and keys, and other physical abuse.

I keep my cards in a small hard case that has anti-static coating, and is moisture- and dust-sealed. It has my business card taped to it with phone and email address, so I have a fighting chance of getting it back if I misplace it.

That's analogous to putting an exposed roll of film back into its plastic canister and putting the canister in a radiation-resistant foil pouch.

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