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Jul 6, 2022 10:16:20   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
[quote=DirtFarmer] Your plants need something on the order of 1" of water a week to thrive. If it rains, they get that water and the barrel is full. If it doesn't rain, the barrel is empty so it won't be there to water your plants. Also, 1" of water on your plants takes a fair amount of water. If your barrel is 50 gallons, that's about 5.9 cubic feet. Spreading that out to 1" depth you have about 70 square feet for your garden. I'm probably biased, having farmed about 5 acres, but 70 square feet is not enough space to grow much more than 2 meals.

Thank you! Mother Earth News always promoted rain barrels and my wife said we should put them under our downspouts. "But wait," I said, "if it's rained enough to fill the barrels then the garden doesn't need water but if it's dry and the barrels are empty, the garden needs water." She remains unconvinced. Like you said, a 55 gallon drum of rainwater would provide an inch of water for about 1/5th of my vegetables before it runs out and she can forget about her flowers.

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Jul 6, 2022 10:19:03   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
fourlocks wrote:
Thank you! Mother Earth News always promoted rain barrels and my wife said we should put them under our downspouts...


IMHO, the cost of the rainbarrels (and plumbing) would exceed the cost of public water or the electrical power used for well water.

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Jul 6, 2022 12:10:35   #
srg
 
ecobin wrote:
Purple Rain is quite good.


There you go. Now I have an earworm for the rest of the day. But it's a good one. Thanks.

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Jul 6, 2022 13:56:51   #
buckwheat Loc: Clarkdale, AZ and Belen NM
 
What is rain?







(see where I'm from)

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Jul 6, 2022 14:55:00   #
BArthur3
 
rlv567 wrote:
But did the residents of the houses in question survive their use of the water???

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


Well... there certainly haven't been any handed-down stories of family members or renters (for the bungalow) not having survived use -- and at least for family members, there's a history of good longevity, although I certainly wouldn't link that to consumption of the captured water!

Bill

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Jul 6, 2022 18:12:26   #
bob44044 Loc: Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In some states, it's illegal to collect rainwater.

Did you know that rainwater is not pure? Like snow and hail, moisture latches onto impurities in the air and then becomes individual drops of rain. Basically, rain is the sky getting a good cleaning. Depending on where you live, rain could have lots of bad stuff in it.

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/collecting-rain-water-in-these-states-could-be-illegal/?_cmp=diytipshintsnl&_ebid=diytipshintsnl742022&_mid=511280&ehid=73A5119F6D6B55A335D41D8BD7D8D335A74FB2CE&_PermHash=bd21b40cef185e699339cb565fc5ad1ad6a80355db458b2059b848bd83716669
In some states, it's illegal to collect rainwater.... (show quote)


Another example of excess government intrusion into the people's everyday lives. The next thing they'll be forbidding us from doing is breathing air.

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Jul 6, 2022 21:49:33   #
ddgm Loc: Hamilton, Ontario & Fort Myers, FL
 
They won't forbid you, they will just require that you wear a metered inhaler.

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Jul 7, 2022 06:15:46   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
What happens to the dust that settles on your roof between rains? Does it just settle to the bottom of your rainwater tank? Do you have to clean the tank periodically?

Of course well water comes through dirt and rock so there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it goes through settled materials, not things on the surface (which in your case probably includes roo poo).

And if water has a taste, it's probably due to additives.


Most ground water has minerals in it. Often evident as stains around lawns watered with ground water.
As for the dust etc, it settles on the bottom, but there’s not much of it. The water delivery port is a few inches off the bottom, above any sediment. Yes, they can be cleaned but very rarely needed.
There are facilities to allow first rains to bypass the tank feeds, then close it off. There’s many little gadgets for various cleaning tricks. Like mesh over the guttering to keep leaves out. The nectar of the gods, rainwater?

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Jul 7, 2022 07:25:48   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In some states, it's illegal to collect rainwater.

Did you know that rainwater is not pure? Like snow and hail, moisture latches onto impurities in the air and then becomes individual drops of rain. Basically, rain is the sky getting a good cleaning. Depending on where you live, rain could have lots of bad stuff in it.

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/collecting-rain-water-in-these-states-could-be-illegal/?_cmp=diytipshintsnl&_ebid=diytipshintsnl742022&_mid=511280&ehid=73A5119F6D6B55A335D41D8BD7D8D335A74FB2CE&_PermHash=bd21b40cef185e699339cb565fc5ad1ad6a80355db458b2059b848bd83716669
In some states, it's illegal to collect rainwater.... (show quote)


My entire neighborhood drank rain water growing up. Every home had a cistern below the garage. A cinder block wall split the cistern for a filter. It tested as good for drinking. Then they put in city water. Amazingly then it tested bad for drinking. Lol. We always let it rain for about 30 minutes then we switched it to flow into the cistern if we were home. Which normally we were. After the final city water inspection we hooked it back up to the toilets and hose bibs so we could wash the cars water the lawn and flush without penalty. Lol

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Jul 7, 2022 10:32:50   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
I was raised in a rural area where we had to have water delivered to our cysteine. We would divert rainwater into it only in the months with an "R" in their name. The gutters were diverted to flow into a filter trap filled with cleaned river gravel and charcoal. One of my chores was to help clean the cysteine from time to time. I'm surprised that I survived my early years.

There are far more efficient ways of collecting and storing rainwater today and using it for the non-potable water needs around the home.

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Jul 7, 2022 11:56:01   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
bob44044 wrote:
Another example of excess government intrusion into the people's everyday lives. The next thing they'll be forbidding us from doing is breathing air.


In Texas, "Surface water is defined as “water under ordinary flow, underflow, and tides of every flowing river, natural stream, lake, bay, arm of the Gulf of Mexico, and stormwater, floodwater, or rainwater of every river, natural stream, canyon, ravine, depression, and watershed in the state” and it belongs to the State. I'm sure other states have similar water rights regulations.

Stan

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Jul 7, 2022 16:34:42   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In some states, it's illegal to collect rainwater.

Did you know that rainwater is not pure? Like snow and hail, moisture latches onto impurities in the air and then becomes individual drops of rain. Basically, rain is the sky getting a good cleaning. Depending on where you live, rain could have lots of bad stuff in it.

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/collecting-rain-water-in-these-states-could-be-illegal/?_cmp=diytipshintsnl&_ebid=diytipshintsnl742022&_mid=511280&ehid=73A5119F6D6B55A335D41D8BD7D8D335A74FB2CE&_PermHash=bd21b40cef185e699339cb565fc5ad1ad6a80355db458b2059b848bd83716669
In some states, it's illegal to collect rainwater.... (show quote)


This is precisely why you all should NEVER visit San Antonio Texas! ALL the water that the city of San Antonio Water supplies (SAWS is it name!). It takes that rain water over 100 years to get through the earth to arrive at the Edwards Underground Aquifer! Then when it is pumped out from the aquafer, you could be getting water that is 100 years old! OMG it could just as easily be a thousand years, oh GOD! 10,000 years old, before Christ, Buda or Mohamid were on earth. Now that is some scary thoughts!

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Jul 7, 2022 18:09:50   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Timmers wrote:
This is precisely why you all should NEVER visit San Antonio Texas! ALL the water that the city of San Antonio Water supplies (SAWS is it name!). It takes that rain water over 100 years to get through the earth to arrive at the Edwards Underground Aquifer! Then when it is pumped out from the aquafer, you could be getting water that is 100 years old! OMG it could just as easily be a thousand years, oh GOD! 10,000 years old, before Christ, Buda or Mohamid were on earth. Now that is some scary thoughts!
This is precisely why you all should NEVER visit S... (show quote)


Water that's 1000 or more years old is clearly without the benefits of modern pollution.

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