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Jun 30, 2022 11:20:30   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You are absolutely correct. The Left is dominating the entire hearing process by blocking pro Trump statements and only calling witnesses with anti Trump statements. My guess is this BS will go on up to the Midterms in an attempt to keep anti Trump news going on 24/7. The Left has presented no evidence whatsoever that Trump had anymore to do with the riot at the Capitol building than Chuck Schumer had regarding the attempted murder of Justice Kavanaugh, probably less in fact.

These hearings are nothing more than staged political theater just as the two Trump impeachments were. That should be obvious to anyone in the room.

Dennis
You are absolutely correct. The Left is dominatin... (show quote)


Do you understand that many “Trump supporters” either refused to testify or took the fifth? MCCarthy stupidly led the way to shut dow their testimony. Why, because they are in trouble.

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Jun 30, 2022 12:32:50   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Do you understand that many “Trump supporters” either refused to testify or took the fifth? MCCarthy stupidly led the way to shut dow their testimony. Why, because they are in trouble.


They are not in trouble and there is another reason: Don't go along with authoritarian idiots who are trying to interfere with an election and are exposing themselves as a danger to our rule of law.

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Jun 30, 2022 12:34:38   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Do you understand that many “Trump supporters” either refused to testify or took the fifth? MCCarthy stupidly led the way to shut dow their testimony. Why, because they are in trouble.


You need some serious psychological help.

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Jun 30, 2022 12:52:12   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Fotoartist wrote:
They are not in trouble and there is another reason: Don't go along with authoritarian idiots who are trying to interfere with an election and are exposing themselves as a danger to our rule of law.


The elimination of Trump-supporting witnesses is now considered a major strategic blunder. Trump who initially supported the idea, is now blaming McCarthy. You guys whine about a biased investigation, now place the blame where it should be. You can't have it both ways.

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Jun 30, 2022 12:54:11   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
The elimination of Trump-supporting witnesses is now considered a major strategic blunder. Trump who initially supported the idea, is now blaming McCarthy. You guys whine about a biased investigation, now place the blame where it should be. You can't have it both ways.


It's not biased? Where is the defense party?

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Jun 30, 2022 12:56:00   #
FrumCA
 
DennyT wrote:
Well ,
All the witness. Spoke under oath and were all trump republicans.

Yet his chief of staff who presumably would know more about did or did not do say has refused to testify.

So I ask - who would you like to testify ?

But then again you stated you never watched .

We've been over this numerous times! An investigation would logically seek evidence from both sides. This has not happened and its clear that the committee is going to continue with its extremely biased theater for the foreseeable future. This is a blatant abuse of power that the democrats are going to regret for years.

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Jun 30, 2022 13:00:59   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
The elimination of Trump-supporting witnesses is now considered a major strategic blunder. Trump who initially supported the idea, is now blaming McCarthy. You guys whine about a biased investigation, now place the blame where it should be. You can't have it both ways.


Considered a major strategic blunder by whom? The Spanish Inquisition playbook? Rubin? You guys are doing just fine with your Inquisition. The real investigation will begin in 2023.

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Jun 30, 2022 13:20:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Well ,
All the witness. Spoke under oath and were all trump republicans.

Yet his chief of staff who presumably would know more about did or did not do say has refused to testify.

So I ask - who would you like to testify ?

But then again you stated you never watched .


I have never watched but that does not mean, with today's video transcripts and so on, that I do not know what is going on. Maybe you have no life and can sit in front of a television day after day but I do have a real life, things to do, places to go, people to see, photos to take, fish to catch, animals to kill for my freezer, lots to do for people with real lives.

Who would I like to testify, you ask. Well for one, how about the Secret Service agents who the female witness was speaking about? She said there were agents in the vehicle and that Trump grabbed one around the neck. I would sure as hell love to hear what HE has to say. I would also like to hear what the OTHER agents in the vehicle have to say too. Doesn't it seem fair, if she puts her testimony in the records that those other witnesses she is talking about should have the same right? Is that selfish of me or just stupid, lying, corrupt of the hearing people, Liz Cheney et al, to not want to also hear from those witnesses? You being a Left Winger seem perfectly satisfied to just take the word of those who hate President Trump. But there is another side or doesn't that side count toward what really took place?

Were not most of those Trump Republicans people who did not like Trump? Have their been Trump witnesses called who actually strongly stuck up for the President? Anybody?

For a somewhat Conservative you sure have fallen hard for the Left Wing bullshit.

Dennis

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Jun 30, 2022 13:23:42   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Do you understand that many “Trump supporters” either refused to testify or took the fifth? MCCarthy stupidly led the way to shut dow their testimony. Why, because they are in trouble.


Where is the trouble? So far there is not much evidence that Trump actually instigated the riot though you would love for that to be true. His speech does not contain anything that says, Go forth and tear down the Capitol building, does not say, Hang Mike Pence, does not say, commit violence against Capitol Police officers, anymore than does Chuck Schumer's comments against Supreme Court Justices toward Kavanaugh's attempted murder.

When will the Democrats start that investigation against Schumer? Is it coming soon or maybe the 12th of Never as usual when there is corruption on the Left?

Dennis

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Jun 30, 2022 13:28:02   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
The elimination of Trump-supporting witnesses is now considered a major strategic blunder. Trump who initially supported the idea, is now blaming McCarthy. You guys whine about a biased investigation, now place the blame where it should be. You can't have it both ways.


Who is in charge of the investigation, Democrats who are right out in front displaying lies and corruption or Republicans? Please tell me the Democrats are doing everything possible to have a fair hearing. PLEASE tell me that with a straight face. Every single person on the panel HATES President Trump because the Democrats wanted it that way. The Republicans offered their choice of panel members but the Democrats said, NO. Does that seem fair to you? If the roles were reversed would you accept that as being fair OR would you think it was a Kangaroo Court situation? Think about it. Give me a good reason why the Republicans could not use their own people no matter who those people might have been. Here is a hint. There is no good reason in the area of fairness and open hearings.

Dennis

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Jun 30, 2022 14:02:26   #
bluezzzzz Loc: Stamping Ground, KY
 
From the article: "The Secret Service has provided dozens of hours of testimony to the Jan. 6 committee so far, dating back to spring 2021.

According to the source close to the agency, both Ornato and Engel have appeared before the committee on the record and behind closed doors, at the committee’s request. Those sessions were recorded, but not used in Tuesday’s hearing."


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/29/us/politics/what-happened-trumps-vehicle-jan-6.html


Marshall

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Jun 30, 2022 14:25:19   #
FrumCA
 
bluezzzzz wrote:
From the article: "The Secret Service has provided dozens of hours of testimony to the Jan. 6 committee so far, dating back to spring 2021.

According to the source close to the agency, both Ornato and Engel have appeared before the committee on the record and behind closed doors, at the committee’s request. Those sessions were recorded, but not used in Tuesday’s hearing."


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/29/us/politics/what-happened-trumps-vehicle-jan-6.html


Marshall
From the article: "The Secret Service has pro... (show quote)


From Snopes: Within hours after Hutchinson’s testimony, NBC News chief White House correspondent Peter Alexander had also tweeted the following, beginning with a police car revolving light emoji, “A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.”

Snopes, always a questionable source, is splitting hairs with wordsmithing to back up their claim. Looks like this could easily be resolved if the committee called both Engel and Ornato to testify. The Secret Service reports that these guys are ready to testify. When is that scheduled?

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Jun 30, 2022 15:32:04   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
It will be used as evidence of trump's mental state in his attorney's insanity defense plea.



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Jun 30, 2022 15:44:59   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Those with some degree of intelligence, and open mind, are more impressed with credible, sworn testimony under oath than than to consider a hug an affirmation of conspiracy and deceit.
But, to be fair, many, thick in the head, with their judgement predetermined; will consider a hug conspiratorial— kinda like when Trump told the insurrectionists “We love you. You are special” after they had breached the Capitol, destroyed property, and crapped on the floors.
It’s a funny world.

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Jun 30, 2022 15:47:12   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I have never watched but that does not mean, with today's video transcripts and so on, that I do not know what is going on. Maybe you have no life and can sit in front of a television day after day but I do have a real life, things to do, places to go, people to see, photos to take, fish to catch, animals to kill for my freezer, lots to do for people with real lives.

Who would I like to testify, you ask. Well for one, how about the Secret Service agents who the female witness was speaking about? She said there were agents in the vehicle and that Trump grabbed one around the neck. I would sure as hell love to hear what HE has to say. I would also like to hear what the OTHER agents in the vehicle have to say too. Doesn't it seem fair, if she puts her testimony in the records that those other witnesses she is talking about should have the same right? Is that selfish of me or just stupid, lying, corrupt of the hearing people, Liz Cheney et al, to not want to also hear from those witnesses? You being a Left Winger seem perfectly satisfied to just take the word of those who hate President Trump. But there is another side or doesn't that side count toward what really took place?

Were not most of those Trump Republicans people who did not like Trump? Have their been Trump witnesses called who actually strongly stuck up for the President? Anybody?

For a somewhat Conservative you sure have fallen hard for the Left Wing bullshit.

Dennis
I have never watched but that does not mean, with ... (show quote)


I haven’t seen even in minute of the hearing but I read all types of sides of sources . What she said - specifically - is told by others.
So don’t misconstrue or take outbid context what was said
Intellectual dishonesty

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