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Jun 19, 2022 05:32:44   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
fourlocks wrote:
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR for landscape photography and several respondents said they leave their VR on, all the time.

I used to leave mine on but it seemed like the battery would drain faster when I did that and it would even drain the battery over (a long) time with the VR left on and the camera turned off, just sitting in my camera bag. Does anyone know if the electrons are still flowing with VR turned on and the camera turned off? Or does shutting off the camera also shut down the VR?
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR ... (show quote)


When the camera is off, there is no juice flowing in the camera. I does not matter if VR is turned on or off, if the camera is turned off, VR is NOT working. The only thing that is working when the camera is off is the clock and calendar, which takes a very tiny amount of juice to run.
And yes, VR does take extra battery power to work, but how much is a matter of discussion. For me, I have not noticed an increase in battery drain leaving the VR on, I shoot mostly Nikon and Sony, and now Olympus OM-1.

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Jun 19, 2022 08:00:17   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
jerryc41 wrote:
More information than anyone would need, but here it is. I don't think addresses the question you posted, though.

https://www.ndt.net/article/qirt2016/papers/032.pdf


Interesting article Jerry. A general statement to the Posting of such as questions without definition of what VR is for those like me who do not know... It may be a variation of ZQ....
OR
Is the poster, fourlocks, referring to: VR photography (after virtual-reality photography) is the interactive viewing of panoramic photographs, generally encompassing a 360-degree circle or a spherical view.

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Jun 19, 2022 11:45:26   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Steve DeMott wrote:
I use BBF with VR turned on almost 100% of the time. As long as I have the BBF button pressed I can hear the VR motor doing its thing and received the benefits of VR.

Do I lose the VR benefit if I Release the BBF button to recompose? I would think so.

{It does not create a long-term drain}
I will disagree with you about the VR circuits not using power if VR is not active & camera turned on. However, I believe the power drain from the VR circuits would be miniscule compared to the camera circuits drain. My wife is always telling me I'm wrong, so again I could be wrong.
I use BBF with VR turned on almost 100% of the tim... (show quote)


When the wife says you're wrong, listen politely and do what you wanna when she's not looking!

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Jun 19, 2022 11:46:03   #
PhotosBySteve
 
fourlocks wrote:
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR for landscape photography and several respondents said they leave their VR on, all the time.

I used to leave mine on but it seemed like the battery would drain faster when I did that and it would even drain the battery over (a long) time with the VR left on and the camera turned off, just sitting in my camera bag. Does anyone know if the electrons are still flowing with VR turned on and the camera turned off? Or does shutting off the camera also shut down the VR?
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR ... (show quote)


First time I ever heard that false rumor!
GPS, on the other hand will drain the battery on some models such as my 6D, if left enabled with camera power switch off

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Jun 19, 2022 12:16:37   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
fourlocks wrote:
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR for landscape photography and several respondents said they leave their VR on, all the time.

I used to leave mine on but it seemed like the battery would drain faster when I did that and it would even drain the battery over (a long) time with the VR left on and the camera turned off, just sitting in my camera bag. Does anyone know if the electrons are still flowing with VR turned on and the camera turned off? Or does shutting off the camera also shut down the VR?
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR ... (show quote)


On my cameras turning off the camera turns off the IS.
IS also automatically turns off when camera is tripod mounted.

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Jun 19, 2022 14:05:23   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
fourlocks wrote:
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR for landscape photography and several respondents said they leave their VR on, all the time.

I used to leave mine on but it seemed like the battery would drain faster when I did that and it would even drain the battery over (a long) time with the VR left on and the camera turned off, just sitting in my camera bag. Does anyone know if the electrons are still flowing with VR turned on and the camera turned off? Or does shutting off the camera also shut down the VR?
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR ... (show quote)


More likely you have bluetooth turned on - that drains the battery faster than anything

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Jun 19, 2022 21:55:20   #
Miamark Loc: Florida
 
fourlocks wrote:
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR for landscape photography and several respondents said they leave their VR on, all the time.

I used to leave mine on but it seemed like the battery would drain faster when I did that and it would even drain the battery over (a long) time with the VR left on and the camera turned off, just sitting in my camera bag. Does anyone know if the electrons are still flowing with VR turned on and the camera turned off? Or does shutting off the camera also shut down the VR?
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR ... (show quote)


The VR does drain your battery when the camera is on.if you are not using the VR and shooting, turn it off. If you turn the camera off, the VR will not drain your battery.

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Jun 20, 2022 02:46:19   #
TonyBrown
 
I leave my camera in airplane mode to save battery life. If WiFi or Bluetooth is on then it may be searching for other devices and using power. As a matter of interest I always switch VR off when I shut down the camera. Not to save battery, but because it is my understanding that the gyros are not locked in place for transporting the lens if VR is left on!

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Jun 20, 2022 09:18:44   #
Capn_Dave
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's your imagination. The VR is engaged only when the camera is actively focusing. It does not create a long-term drain. It doesn't not operate under it's own control.


CHG_CANON has it right for Canon cameras. THe VR or IR is only active then the camera is actively focusing. Most of the comments are about Nikon. Thr OP never mentioned who the camera mfg was. It is only logical to have it it not working when you are not actively focusing the camera and shooting. Camera brands that don't have that feature seem to be illogical. it would have a tendency to overheat the VR motor.

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Jun 20, 2022 10:01:23   #
Joexx
 
Thomas902 wrote:
Lots of opinions very little to corroborate them...
While I have reservations that that there are enough technical savvy photographers on UHH to actually appreciate what Thom brings to the table on his extensive analysis which he has continuously update over the past decade.

Thom was a senior editor for a very widely read and revered Photo Magazing for many years.
To this end I would suggest you bookmark his dissertation since it is extensive and actually enumerates which of Nikon's VR iterations function on a myriad of their Nikkors.

What Thom shares here is that there are not any "rules" or "best practices" for VR but rather a kaleidoscope of parameters to keep in mind each of which may only be germane to a small subset of VR optics. Nikon continously advances the technology as it moves forward. This has resulted in newer Nikkors rising the performance bar...

The most scary takeaway? Since i'm certain few will actually study Thom's analysis.
If you disconnect a VR optic while the VR system is still spining down you have placed you lens in serious harms way... i.e. yes you can trash a VR lens by removing it too quickly from your camera...

From experience I've noticed some high end Sigma's optics are slow to "park" there floating elements. Sigma actually cautions that it's OS takes a second or so to spin down... And since Sigma was sued by Nikon for copyright infringement on it's VR I'm a believer here. I've always allowed my 50-150mm f/2.8 HMS OS IF Sigma to spin down prior to removing it... enough said

Here's Thom's wisdom on VR (which I've study many times over the years (he updates it constantly))
https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-articles/lens-technique/all-about-nikon-vr.html
Your welcome...
Lots of opinions very little to corroborate them..... (show quote)

Thanks for the link. I agree. I have read Thom's posts for a long time & have purchased several of his documents. He is extremely knowledgeable

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Jun 20, 2022 12:27:18   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Longshadow wrote:
The internet has rumors?????


No. That’s just a rumor.

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Jun 20, 2022 12:29:44   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
fourlocks wrote:
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR for landscape photography and several respondents said they leave their VR on, all the time.

I used to leave mine on but it seemed like the battery would drain faster when I did that and it would even drain the battery over (a long) time with the VR left on and the camera turned off, just sitting in my camera bag. Does anyone know if the electrons are still flowing with VR turned on and the camera turned off? Or does shutting off the camera also shut down the VR?
Robertneger just posted a question about using VR ... (show quote)

After reading all the posts I think this is a battery issue. Buy a new one and see if this helps. My VR hasn’t been turned off in years.

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Jun 26, 2022 11:22:36   #
DPFotoZ Loc: Woodruff, SC USA
 
Thomas902 wrote:
Lots of opinions very little to corroborate them...
While I have reservations that that there are enough technical savvy photographers on UHH to actually appreciate what Thom brings to the table on his extensive analysis which he has continuously update over the past decade.

Thom was a senior editor for a very widely read and revered Photo Magazing for many years.
To this end I would suggest you bookmark his dissertation since it is extensive and actually enumerates which of Nikon's VR iterations function on a myriad of their Nikkors.

What Thom shares here is that there are not any "rules" or "best practices" for VR but rather a kaleidoscope of parameters to keep in mind each of which may only be germane to a small subset of VR optics. Nikon continously advances the technology as it moves forward. This has resulted in newer Nikkors rising the performance bar...

The most scary takeaway? Since i'm certain few will actually study Thom's analysis.
If you disconnect a VR optic while the VR system is still spining down you have placed you lens in serious harms way... i.e. yes you can trash a VR lens by removing it too quickly from your camera...

From experience I've noticed some high end Sigma's optics are slow to "park" there floating elements. Sigma actually cautions that it's OS takes a second or so to spin down... And since Sigma was sued by Nikon for copyright infringement on it's VR I'm a believer here. I've always allowed my 50-150mm f/2.8 HMS OS IF Sigma to spin down prior to removing it... enough said

Here's Thom's wisdom on VR (which I've study many times over the years (he updates it constantly))
https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-articles/lens-technique/all-about-nikon-vr.html
Your welcome...
Lots of opinions very little to corroborate them..... (show quote)


A lot of good info, thanks for posting this link!

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