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Jun 9, 2022 15:26:29   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Gspeed wrote:
I wonder if obtaining a “TSA pre-check” designation would help?

My husband + I recently applied. It lasts for 5 years, I believe. We had to go to a local center to apply in person and be fingerprinted on an iPad.

Can’t remember the cost was about $85-125. If you pay with credit card most major credit cards will refund you the entire cost.

Gets you through security w/o removing your shoes or taking your laptop out, for example.

Only snag I discovered: however TSA Pre-Check records your name for their records, you have to list that precisely when you make your reservation with various airlines (including the use of your middle initial).

~ Eileen
I wonder if obtaining a “TSA pre-check” designatio... (show quote)


If you travel overseas at all you might want to spend an extra $15 and get Global Entry. It doesn’t help in going through customs in the countries you visit but it can smooth re-entry when you get back home.

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Jun 9, 2022 16:20:55   #
Jsykes
 
nison777 wrote:
How many of you fellow traveling photographers; have experienced heavy screens; by the T.S.A. when traveling with your carry on camera bag?

This seems to be the norm for me..
Either coming or returning home...
At least once a trip this seems to happen...

I understand that the black bag could raise some suspicion...

All lenses are layed down as to not make the X-Ray scann bring suspension...
There's nothing sharp or unusual in the bag...

Although once I did have a small knife that I forgot was in there and they missed that all together...

But I have experienced a shake down even after my bag was X-Ray ed...
It is almost like I can count on this happening at least once every time I travel...

Just wanted to know if I was just unlucky... I really don't have anything to hide from them...
I even scored a "full security" .... "random test check" with a palm swab...
That was very unnerving...

I must have been the thousandth passenger... Lucky me...
I will never forget the looks from my wife and the other folks nearby...
How many of you fellow traveling photographers; h... (show quote)


Only once had a problem, in Shanghai, where the young TSA guy was angry that the contents of the camera bag had not been emptied into one of the trays. Got close to a shouting match as a consequence of how he was man-handing the equipment. A single incident among multiple TSA checks in SE Asia, S. America, Europe (and the USA) where the camera back pack has never been opened and the contents checked.

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Jun 9, 2022 16:21:05   #
Abo
 
Mate... grin and bear it.

I reckon it's best to be cooperative and make the security dudes job
as easy as you can.

When it's all said and done, they are working for your well being.

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Jun 9, 2022 16:53:46   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Abo wrote:
Mate... grin and bear it.

I reckon it's best to be cooperative and make the security dudes job
as easy as you can.

When it's all said and done, they are working for your well being.


And have the power to make it impossible to board your flight.

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Jun 9, 2022 17:07:54   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
nison777 wrote:
How many of you fellow traveling photographers; have experienced heavy screens; by the T.S.A. when traveling with your carry on camera bag?

This seems to be the norm for me..
Either coming or returning home...
At least once a trip this seems to happen...

I understand that the black bag could raise some suspicion...

All lenses are layed down as to not make the X-Ray scann bring suspension...
There's nothing sharp or unusual in the bag...

Although once I did have a small knife that I forgot was in there and they missed that all together...

But I have experienced a shake down even after my bag was X-Ray ed...
It is almost like I can count on this happening at least once every time I travel...

Just wanted to know if I was just unlucky... I really don't have anything to hide from them...
I even scored a "full security" .... "random test check" with a palm swab...
That was very unnerving...

I must have been the thousandth passenger... Lucky me...
I will never forget the looks from my wife and the other folks nearby...
How many of you fellow traveling photographers; h... (show quote)


Let’s not be too harsh on TSA Agents for doing their job. They are not there to make friends and take warm showers with you. They are there to (maybe) stop the suspicious malevolent strangers that will be sitting near or next to you.....they may have different motives or intentions other that travel. Thank goodness TSA is doing a job that’s been proven to be necessary and they deserve a little respect. Yes, I’ve also had recent unpleasant experiences of random, regular and extensive TSA searches, no a big deal…
BUT, (here’s a little humor) once many years ago, before returning from a wine filled adventure in Paris, I bought an expensive antique corkscrew as a souvenir of this memorable trip. I made the mistake of packing the corkscrew in my carry-on bag/camera case. At the airports security screening station, my fixed lens/film camera was briefly examined by the TSA agent with a scorned as if it was worthless pawned shop item. But, when the corkscrew was spotted, it was carefully examined and immediately confiscated with a few phrases muttered in French about something being a machete (huh), that’s a corkscrew…almost your national symbol! I was told (in English) I could pick it up at “security” at my final US destination----(really, where?). After this time consuming delay, I was allowed to board my “almost missed” flight headed for New York City. When the flight landed, I had to hustle through the always crowed airport to catch my connecting flight to Chicago, (my final destination)….Silly me at the time, I never got a receipt or ticket for the confiscated item. Thus, I never saw the corkscrew again. I should have packed the darn thing in my checked baggage……oh yeah, the wine was great!

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Jun 9, 2022 18:12:37   #
btbg
 
bsprague wrote:
You are not being uniquely picked on. You have a variety of gear that could easily be used to conceal contraband. Be happy they are trying to be thorough. Plan on it. Pack your bag so it is easy to unpack for TSA and then repack. Put collections of small items in zip locks.


You are right it is not unique, but it is very disruptive, particularly when they break a lens. Five years ago they broke a 24-70 f2.8 lens of mine. Did not discover it was broken until I arrived at my destination. When I tried to address the situation they refused to compensate me because I had not immediately complained. But, I did not immediately know it was broken as they told me hands off while they were searching. I knew they dropped it, but I did not know that it no longer focused. Since their search made it rushed to make my flight I did not check it at the time. That's my bad, but it is very frustrating.

As to making it easy for them to search that is easier said than done given that some of us have a lot of camera gear and they will remove all of it from the bag to search for contraband underneath it. That leaves all of the gear vulnerable should they knock it off their table, which does happen. There is no good way to protect your gear. It is just a risk that you have to accept when traveling by air.

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Jun 9, 2022 18:13:00   #
Dean Sturgis
 
My wife & I got Global entry that includes YSA pre check. On last trip coming from Dallas Fort Worth she did not get TSA precheck although on other legs of the trip we did all the tickets were purchased at the same time.
I had TSA precheck so I did not have to open my bag, but I had to take every thing out of my pockets including papers & wallet that had no metal. Because of TSA precheck they had no bins to put things in, I had to put the items in the one available bowl the size of a dog food bowl. I the process I lost my boarding pass, I found items in a pocket that still set the metal detector off the clips on a few pens. By than I had to wait for a pat down.
In the process I lost my boarding pass for my next flight and possibly a 50 peso note.

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Jun 9, 2022 18:14:55   #
btbg
 
Gspeed wrote:
I wonder if obtaining a “TSA pre-check” designation would help?

My husband + I recently applied. It lasts for 5 years, I believe. We had to go to a local center to apply in person and be fingerprinted on an iPad.

Can’t remember the cost was about $85-125. If you pay with credit card most major credit cards will refund you the entire cost.

Gets you through security w/o removing your shoes or taking your laptop out, for example.

Only snag I discovered: however TSA Pre-Check records your name for their records, you have to list that precisely when you make your reservation with various airlines (including the use of your middle initial).

~ Eileen
I wonder if obtaining a “TSA pre-check” designatio... (show quote)


It would definitely help, but a lot of us live near regional airports that are not cleared to do pre-check. Have to have access to a major airport to do that.

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Jun 9, 2022 18:19:17   #
btbg
 
PhotosBySteve wrote:
There is a simple way to solve that issue.
As I did over 10 years ago. I refused to fly anywhere whenever I had my camera gear with me. I now drive, take a bus or train. This has worked well for me and has saved me from further TSA harassment and from the few thieving haphazzard baggage misshandlers.
I don't miss it one bit.
Complaining never accomplished anything.
Taking action on my own has been a blessing in disguise.
If I ever have to fly, then I will rent gear at my destination.
There is a simple way to solve that issue. br As I... (show quote)


Guess you aren't going to Hawaii or parts of Alaska then are you. There are some places you just can't drive to.

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Jun 9, 2022 18:34:53   #
PaulineS Loc: Surprise, AZ
 
This was a reply to another post. Sorry it ended up here.

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Jun 9, 2022 19:04:31   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
PaulineS wrote:
Too funny! I’m not sure how well TSA really works, since it’s operated inconsistently around the country. One time I was flying from Oregon to California. I packed an opaque 6oz bottle of hair product that was nearly empty in my carry-on without giving it much thought. It went through TSA for the first flight. It didn’t go through on the return flight. The TSA lady was very nice about it, and gave me options to check it through. However, she insisted that if I were allowed to carry this on, it would go “kaboom!” and the plane would explode. She said this several times. I had to bite my tongue to prevent laughing. I so badly wanted to ask why all the liquids being checked through the cargo area don’t go “kaboom!"
Too funny! I’m not sure how well TSA really works... (show quote)


Whenever human judgemenr is involved you will gat different opinions. Ever watch the officiating in an NFL game? Why sre you encouraged to get a second opinion on a doctor's advice? Etc., etc.....

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Jun 9, 2022 19:15:59   #
Mustanger Loc: Grants Pass, Oregon USA
 
Mr Bill 2011 wrote:
I haven't flown since I retired 17 years ago, and I haven't missed it at all. After reading about all the hassles other people have had over the years, I doubt I will ever fly again unless I absolutely have to. I always preferred to drive anyway because I could carry extra "stuff," and can stop and go when and where I want to.




I am of the same idea!

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Jun 9, 2022 19:41:07   #
cwp3420
 
nison777 wrote:
How many of you fellow traveling photographers; have experienced heavy screens; by the T.S.A. when traveling with your carry on camera bag?

This seems to be the norm for me..
Either coming or returning home...
At least once a trip this seems to happen...

I understand that the black bag could raise some suspicion...

All lenses are layed down as to not make the X-Ray scann bring suspension...
There's nothing sharp or unusual in the bag...

Although once I did have a small knife that I forgot was in there and they missed that all together...

But I have experienced a shake down even after my bag was X-Ray ed...
It is almost like I can count on this happening at least once every time I travel...

Just wanted to know if I was just unlucky... I really don't have anything to hide from them...
I even scored a "full security" .... "random test check" with a palm swab...
That was very unnerving...

I must have been the thousandth passenger... Lucky me...
I will never forget the looks from my wife and the other folks nearby...
How many of you fellow traveling photographers; h... (show quote)


Back in 2009, we had traveled to Vermont to attend my youngest daughter’s graduation from college. I had my Nikon D700 in a Pelican case with all of my lenses, and had 2 locks on the case. I hadn’t had any trouble until we were flying home, and we had a layover in Washington D.C. When we went to board our Southwest flight back home, we went to the gate early, as seats weren’t assigned, and there were 5 of us. Just before boarding, I saw some TSA agents coming with a collapsible table, and they stopped at our gate. I jokingly told my wife they were going to do a random check of passengers. Since I had retired from DHS in 2006, I didn’t foresee a problem, but I told my wife I thought they were “looking for terrorists”, and that I figured that would be me.

Sure enough, just as the plane started boarding, they came and got me out of line to be searched. I told my wife to save me a seat and followed them to their table. An officer asked me why I thought I needed two locks on my Pelican case, and I said that I had about $6,000 in equipment in there and wanted to keep it safe. She asked me to unlock it, so I did, and for a moment she stood there just looking in my case as if she was confused. After a moment, she asked me to take the D700 out, so I did so. She took it from me and really looked it over, and then asked me to “prove” it was a real camera. I asked her if she thought it might not be areal camera, and she said they were taking no chances. She then asked me to prove it worked, so I powered it on and showed her the LCD screen. She still wasn’t convinced, so I asked her if she wanted me to take a picture of something in the airport. She got highly offended, and said taking pictures in the airport was a federal violation, and that I should show her some other way to prove it was really a camera. I smiled at her and asked her how I could prove it was a real camera that takes real pictures without actually taking a picture. She looked stymied for a moment, and noticing she had attracted not only her fellow employees, but a fairly large crowd, she brusquely told me to lock up the case and get on the plane. I never have figured out if she knew what she was doing or not.

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Jun 9, 2022 19:51:57   #
Ghery Loc: Olympia, WA
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Back in 2009, we had traveled to Vermont to attend my youngest daughter’s graduation from college. I had my Nikon D700 in a Pelican case with all of my lenses, and had 2 locks on the case. I hadn’t had any trouble until we were flying home, and we had a layover in Washington D.C. When we went to board our Southwest flight back home, we went to the gate early, as seats weren’t assigned, and there were 5 of us. Just before boarding, I saw some TSA agents coming with a collapsible table, and they stopped at our gate. I jokingly told my wife they were going to do a random check of passengers. Since I had retired from DHS in 2006, I didn’t foresee a problem, but I told my wife I thought they were “looking for terrorists”, and that I figured that would be me.

Sure enough, just as the plane started boarding, they came and got me out of line to be searched. I told my wife ti save me a seat and followed them to their table. An officer asked me why I thought I needed two locks on my Pelican case, and I said that I had about $6,000 in equipment in there and wanted to keep it safe. She asked me to unlock it, so I did, and for a moment she stood there just looking in my case as if she was confused. After a moment, she asked me to take the D700 out, so I did so. She took it from me and really looked it over, and then asked me to “prove” it was a real camera. I asked her if she thought it might not be areal camera, and she said they were taking no chances. She then asked me to prove it worked, so I powered it on and showed her the LCD screen. She still wasn’t convinced, so I asked her if she wanted me to take a picture of something in the airport. She got highly offended, and said taking pictures in the airport was a federal violation, and that I should show her some other way to prove it was really a camera. I smiled at her and asked her how I could prove it was a real camera that takes real pictures without actually taking a picture. She looked stymied for a moment, and noticing she had attracted not only her fellow employees, but a fairly large crowd, she brusquely told me to lock up the case and get on the plane. I never have figured out if she knew what she was doing or not.
Back in 2009, we had traveled to Vermont to attend... (show quote)


She was, as is typical of a TSA MacDonald's reject, full of it. There is no federal rule against taking a picture at an airport. There might be a rule against taking a picture of their "security" setup, but of the airport in general? No way! I'm glad she released you in time to catch your flight.

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Jun 9, 2022 21:08:07   #
Hip Coyote
 
Jsykes wrote:
Only once had a problem, in Shanghai, where the young TSA guy was angry that the contents of the camera bag had not been emptied into one of the trays. Got close to a shouting match as a consequence of how he was man-handing the equipment. A single incident among multiple TSA checks in SE Asia, S. America, Europe (and the USA) where the camera back pack has never been opened and the contents checked.


Shanghai does not have TSA agents so far as I know. They’re Chinese. And, having been there, I can attest to a lack of discretion of the workers.

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