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Jun 4, 2022 16:41:00   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
This week, wife and I went to the movie theater and saw the movie "2000 Mules." If you ever wish to see proof of a conspiracy, check out this movie.


I saw it. It was absolutely ridiculous. This "documentarian" Dinesh D'Souza committed election fraud himself and was later pardoned by Trump. He claimed that the 911 terrorist attacks were carried out because leftists angered the conservative Muslims. This lunatic conspiracy theorist craftily put together snippets, cannily edited, and made a LOT of assumptions about peoples' proximity to ballot boxes using flawed analysis of cell phone geo-location data. Many anonymous sources, no actual "proof" of anything. Much supposition. Add some weird camera angles and dramatic music, and the gullible just eat it up.

It must be exhausting for them.

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Jun 5, 2022 06:30:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
This week, wife and I went to the movie theater and saw the movie "2000 Mules." If you ever wish to see proof of a conspiracy, check out this movie.


Yes, "proving" a conspiracy with lies.

We want the truth about election integrity, but Dinesh D'Souza's new film "2000 Mules" isn't it. The film “2000 Mules” uses a flawed analysis of cell phone geo-location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to try and prove election fraud in the 2020 presidential election. The movie suggests Democrat-organized “mules” were paid to illegally collect and drop off ballots in key battleground states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

https://www.jan-6.com/2000-mules?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqPGUBhDwARIsANNwjV4dQG9yoXrATTNnSeyJQbmnglgBbj0KFRky7vdFxvXRrD68pdFLARwaAvmqEALw_wcB

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Jun 5, 2022 10:04:05   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, "proving" a conspiracy with lies.

Of course, the left is going to bash anything which doesn't conform to their agenda. They call the analysis flawed. Well, seeing with one's own eyes the videos of mules dropping off multiple harvested ballots at 2:00 AM in one night is sure convincing. And why would that one person have to go to 14 different drop-boxes in one night? ... if it wasn't for illegal activity? It even shows the mules wearing rubber gloves before the drop, and throwing the rubber gloves into a nearby trash can right after the drop, so as to avoid fingerprint detection. When was the last time you voted legally wearing rubber gloves? The documentary merges hard evidence (geo-location) that even the FBI uses in their crime-fighting activities, with videos of the criminals activity. May I suggest that you view the documentary yourself before making up your mind otherwise. Or perhaps, your mind is already made up.

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Jun 5, 2022 11:37:50   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Of course, the left is going to bash anything which doesn't conform to their agenda. They call the analysis flawed. Well, seeing with one's own eyes the videos of mules dropping off multiple harvested ballots at 2:00 AM in one night is sure convincing. And why would that one person have to go to 14 different drop-boxes in one night? ... if it wasn't for illegal activity? It even shows the mules wearing rubber gloves before the drop, and throwing the rubber gloves into a nearby trash can right after the drop, so as to avoid fingerprint detection. When was the last time you voted legally wearing rubber gloves? The documentary merges hard evidence (geo-location) that even the FBI uses in their crime-fighting activities, with videos of the criminals activity. May I suggest that you view the documentary yourself before making up your mind otherwise. Or perhaps, your mind is already made up.
Of course, the left is going to bash anything whic... (show quote)


There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see.

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Jun 5, 2022 14:21:57   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Of course, the left is going to bash anything which doesn't conform to their agenda. They call the analysis flawed. Well, seeing with one's own eyes the videos of mules dropping off multiple harvested ballots at 2:00 AM in one night is sure convincing. And why would that one person have to go to 14 different drop-boxes in one night? ... if it wasn't for illegal activity? It even shows the mules wearing rubber gloves before the drop, and throwing the rubber gloves into a nearby trash can right after the drop, so as to avoid fingerprint detection. When was the last time you voted legally wearing rubber gloves? The documentary merges hard evidence (geo-location) that even the FBI uses in their crime-fighting activities, with videos of the criminals activity. May I suggest that you view the documentary yourself before making up your mind otherwise. Or perhaps, your mind is already made up.
Of course, the left is going to bash anything whic... (show quote)


Please read the above link - especially Fact Check #2. If you can't see how this cleverly edited film (I refuse to call it a documentary) is pulling the wool over your eyes, I would NOT want you on a jury.

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Jun 6, 2022 10:20:49   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
scallihan wrote:
Please read the above link - especially Fact Check #2. If you can't see how this cleverly edited film (I refuse to call it a documentary) is pulling the wool over your eyes, I would NOT want you on a jury.

Fact Checkers are a typical weapon used by the left to try to debunk anyone differing with their agenda. They usually try to claim others have lied, by advancing their own lies. Fact Checkers are used by a slew of websites and search engines, I'm sure you seen a Fact Checker window pop up on searches, if you search for anything conservative. So, you really cannot rely on a Fact Checker to give you the truth.

Here is the Fact Check #2 which you wanted us to re-read (shown in blue):

CLAIM: At least 2,000 “mules” were paid to illegally collect ballots and deliver them to drop boxes in key swing states ahead of the 2020 presidential election.​

THE FACTS: The finding is based on false assumptions about the precision of cellphone tracking data and the reasons that someone might drop off multiple ballots.


Why is it that you (or this leftist website) do not accept the precision of cellphone tracking? Even the FBI uses cellphone tracking. To prove it and to convince myself...Just yesterday I got my monthly email from Google Maps Timeline, showing exactly where I've been in the past month. Not only did it show the 7 different cities we were in, but also showed the inside of 2 restaurants we ate at, one being about 90 miles from home. It also showed a picture of a garden center we bought plants at. So, Mr. scallihan, geo-tracking is accurate.

As to the reasons why someone would drop off a batch of say 5 ballots each into 14 different drop boxes at 2:00 AM in several different cities, and wearing rubber gloves to do so...I'll leave that to your common sense...perhaps something illegal! If you were on a jury, would you deem this to be normal voting activity?

The solution to this problem is simple: Eliminate drop boxes for voting, eliminate ballot harvesting, and have in person voter ID so that only US citizens can vote. No votes for illegals, nor non-US citizens, nor for dead people. Exceptions to be made for the military.

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Jun 6, 2022 12:50:40   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
Geo location by satellites is accurate to about 16 feet. Factors include atmospheric conditions, satellite geometry, and signal blockage. Google tracking tracks the specific cell phone - yours, for example - and uses apps as well as other Google features that are specific to cell phones.
Accuracy can vary by the physical characteristics/brand/model of the cell phones. AND you have given Google and all those apps PERMISSION to track you. You can turn off location tracking at any time. If you do that, then the FBI, using your specific cell number, can find your general location, but cannot pinpoint your seat in a restaurant, or even the floor you're on in a building.

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Jun 6, 2022 13:10:29   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
scallihan wrote:
Geo location by satellites is accurate to about 16 feet. Factors include atmospheric conditions, satellite geometry, and signal blockage. Google tracking tracks the specific cell phone - yours, for example - and uses apps as well as other Google features that are specific to cell phones.
Accuracy can vary by the physical characteristics/brand/model of the cell phones. AND you have given Google and all those apps PERMISSION to track you. You can turn off location tracking at any time. If you do that, then the FBI, using your specific cell number, can find your general location, but cannot pinpoint your seat in a restaurant, or even the floor you're on in a building.
Geo location by satellites is accurate to about 16... (show quote)

So, the criminals (and yours truly) are uneducated in the science of geo-tracking and thus didn't turn off location tracking. I believe that after conviction, the criminals will write a book entitled "Ballot Harvesting for Dummies."

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Jun 6, 2022 13:18:36   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Fact Checkers are a typical weapon used by the left to try to debunk anyone differing with their agenda. They usually try to claim others have lied, by advancing their own lies. Fact Checkers are used by a slew of websites and search engines, I'm sure you seen a Fact Checker window pop up on searches, if you search for anything conservative. So, you really cannot rely on a Fact Checker to give you the truth.

Here is the Fact Check #2 which you wanted us to re-read (shown in blue):

CLAIM: At least 2,000 “mules” were paid to illegally collect ballots and deliver them to drop boxes in key swing states ahead of the 2020 presidential election.​

THE FACTS: The finding is based on false assumptions about the precision of cellphone tracking data and the reasons that someone might drop off multiple ballots.


Why is it that you (or this leftist website) do not accept the precision of cellphone tracking? Even the FBI uses cellphone tracking. To prove it and to convince myself...Just yesterday I got my monthly email from Google Maps Timeline, showing exactly where I've been in the past month. Not only did it show the 7 different cities we were in, but also showed the inside of 2 restaurants we ate at, one being about 90 miles from home. It also showed a picture of a garden center we bought plants at. So, Mr. scallihan, geo-tracking is accurate.

As to the reasons why someone would drop off a batch of say 5 ballots each into 14 different drop boxes at 2:00 AM in several different cities, and wearing rubber gloves to do so...I'll leave that to your common sense...perhaps something illegal! If you were on a jury, would you deem this to be normal voting activity?

The solution to this problem is simple: Eliminate drop boxes for voting, eliminate ballot harvesting, and have in person voter ID so that only US citizens can vote. No votes for illegals, nor non-US citizens, nor for dead people. Exceptions to be made for the military.
Fact Checkers are a typical weapon used by the lef... (show quote)


and

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Jun 6, 2022 13:20:43   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
How many of Trump's aides have been indicted/jailed, during his own administration? You know, when he hired all the best to clean the swamp?
You've really drunk the Krazy Konspiracy Theory Koolaid.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Bye bye.

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