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Jun 6, 2022 11:29:47   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
47greyfox wrote:
If I have the need to crop, I try a few standard ratios. If they don’t give me what I want, I’ll immediately switch to free form and go for it.


I need to do that more than I have in the past.

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Jun 6, 2022 11:47:51   #
kmpankopf Loc: Mid-Michigan; SW Pennsylvania
 
For me, and my thought only, any shot I take will show up on a monitor or TV before it gets printed. My final products are 16:9.
My saves are all original so I can go adjust if I want to print.

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Jun 6, 2022 12:58:28   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
rmalarz wrote:
Like yourself, I tend to stay with traditional ratios. This comes from darkroom printing, 8x10, 11x14, and 16x20. However, on occasion, I will resort to less than the traditional ratios, such as you presented here.

The example photograph you posted is fantastic. Though, I think there is a touch of hue contamination.
--Bob


Thank you for the thoughts. Yes, there is a color shift/hue. It was right at sunrise and the light was very yellow. The underlying grass (it was over a fallow field) was dry and yellow also. I debated changing the WB and/or hue but decided against it as it accurately portrays the colors I remember.

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Jun 6, 2022 13:00:18   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
kmpankopf wrote:
For me, and my thought only, any shot I take will show up on a monitor or TV before it gets printed. My final products are 16:9.
My saves are all original so I can go adjust if I want to print.


I have tried to go 16:9, but because I shoot almost exclusively birds, that aspect doesn't always work so well. It often draws attention more to the background than subject. Certainly when I display my images on the TV that looks best.

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Jun 6, 2022 16:15:28   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
Great shot! Like several others, I prefer the 3:2 ratio because it stresses horizontal lines and gives the image a somewhat cinematic look. I recently have begun experimenting with square cropping which balances out horizontal and vertical lines and gives an image a balanced look. Occasionally, I chose different ratios if I feel that the image warrants it; the picture posted here would be a good example for a wider ratio. Of course, this is a personal personal choice.

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Jun 6, 2022 16:55:30   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
bajadreamer wrote:
I usually try to stay with one of the "traditional" aspect ratios when I save my master copies of my processed images. Not sure why as I rarely print; most of my images are displayed either on a computer monitor or a dedicated TV I have at home in my den. Especially with the TV, unless the image is at 16:9, the image does not fill the screen. This shot of a Red Kite had to be cropped at a non traditional aspect ratio. I clipped the bird's right (viewer's left) wing and had to replace the wing tip. To do so I had to add canvas on the left side. Because of the pose and the wing span, I could not (at least not satisfactorily to me) get this to work in a 5:4 or 3:2 ratio. What are your thoughts? How important is the aspect ratio to you? I am thinking of having this printed on canvas as a "panorama type" scene.
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When I think to, I try to leave some extra space around the subject. Since I shoot RAW exclusively, I can then re-crop the photo if I want to use it for a different purpose. That said, many of the photos I take are family snapshots and reminders of events, and the aspect ratio for them is of little consequence.

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Jun 7, 2022 08:15:03   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
I think that aspect ratio is unimportant. The cropping should fit the image. This is what you did in your excellent photo. The only exception to this is for certain publications that may require a specific aspect ratio.

I always shoot RAW in the native aspect ratio an then crop accordingly in post.

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Jun 7, 2022 08:28:39   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
One of the benefits of a digital world is the ability to compose the shot to suit the image. As you have done on what is a superb photograph of this fantastic bird.

Framing the print is another matter using traditional frames, but perhaps a canvas print is the answer. Can they be framed easily?

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Jun 7, 2022 08:46:05   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
bajadreamer wrote:
I usually try to stay with one of the "traditional" aspect ratios when I save my master copies of my processed images. Not sure why as I rarely print; most of my images are displayed either on a computer monitor or a dedicated TV I have at home in my den. Especially with the TV, unless the image is at 16:9, the image does not fill the screen. This shot of a Red Kite had to be cropped at a non traditional aspect ratio. I clipped the bird's right (viewer's left) wing and had to replace the wing tip. To do so I had to add canvas on the left side. Because of the pose and the wing span, I could not (at least not satisfactorily to me) get this to work in a 5:4 or 3:2 ratio. What are your thoughts? How important is the aspect ratio to you? I am thinking of having this printed on canvas as a "panorama type" scene.
I usually try to stay with one of the "tradit... (show quote)


I crop to what pleases my eye, fits the frame.

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Jun 7, 2022 08:54:41   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
zug55 wrote:
Great shot! Like several others, I prefer the 3:2 ratio because it stresses horizontal lines and gives the image a somewhat cinematic look. I recently have begun experimenting with square cropping which balances out horizontal and vertical lines and gives an image a balanced look. Occasionally, I chose different ratios if I feel that the image warrants it; the picture posted here would be a good example for a wider ratio. Of course, this is a personal personal choice.


Thank you. My default is 5:4; not sure why but just seems to work that way. PS "remembers" my last crop so defaults to that.

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Jun 7, 2022 09:00:25   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
DWU2 wrote:
When I think to, I try to leave some extra space around the subject. Since I shoot RAW exclusively, I can then re-crop the photo if I want to use it for a different purpose. That said, many of the photos I take are family snapshots and reminders of events, and the aspect ratio for them is of little consequence.


Thank you. I also find myself recropping frequently. What looked good to my eye initially sometimes changes.

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Jun 7, 2022 09:01:18   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
fetzler wrote:
I think that aspect ratio is unimportant. The cropping should fit the image. This is what you did in your excellent photo. The only exception to this is for certain publications that may require a specific aspect ratio.

I always shoot RAW in the native aspect ratio an then crop accordingly in post.


Pretty much my thoughts. I have never submitted any images for publication so not sure how I would approach that.

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Jun 7, 2022 09:02:16   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
PaulBrit wrote:
One of the benefits of a digital world is the ability to compose the shot to suit the image. As you have done on what is a superb photograph of this fantastic bird.

Framing the print is another matter using traditional frames, but perhaps a canvas print is the answer. Can they be framed easily?


I am going to contact Bay Photo about a custom canvas print. If I do print, it is usually canvas or acrylic.

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Jun 7, 2022 09:05:53   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
bajadreamer wrote:
I am going to contact Bay Photo about a custom canvas print. If I do print, it is usually canvas or acrylic.


They seem like a good Californian business!

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Jun 7, 2022 14:20:57   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Highly effective result, I'd say!

Coming from film and with my Canon digital being 3:2 native aspect and enjoying landscape photography, I usually carefully composed and kept to that aspect. It was nice when 8x12 frames became more mass-market available, though I did learn to cut my own mats back in the day.

Fast forward to learning digital editing and ways to change the digital canvas size, and enjoying photographing all kinds of subjects, and using cameras with 4:3 native aspect ratio... now it's all about how I want the image to be presented. The story and/or subject determines the aspect, not where or how it will be displayed.
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Making sure the composition is within the camera's frame first and then worry about the aspect ratio. For most shooting, the 4/3rds (645) ratio will require the least amount of cropping for most standard print sizes. But if you have the image and it requires a different print size (like the OP's shot), so be it! It is the shot that counts, not the print ratio.

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