Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Educated people know that our Founders were well read of the classics and comprehended what they read and could see relevance to their times and the future.
This relates to the evil corruption of libs today blaming the weapon and not blaming the criminal who has not learned morals or godliness in the current messed up society.
Here arms are not blamed but the person.

"There exists a law, not written down anywhere, but inborne in our hearts; a law which comes to us not by training or custom or reading but by derivation and absorption and adoption from nature itself; a law which has come to us not theory but from practice, not by instruction but by natural intuition. I refer to the law which lays it down that, When weapons reduce them to silence, the laws no longer expect one to await their pronouncements. For people who decide to wait for these will have to wait for justice, too - and meanwhile they must suffer injustice first. indeed, even the wisdom of the law itself, by a sort of tacit implication, permits self-defence, because it does not actually forbid men to kill, what it does, instead, is to forbid the bearing of a weapon with the intention to kill. When, therefore, an inquiry passes beyond the mere question of the weapon and starts to consider the motive, a man who has used arms in self-defence is not regarded as having carried them with a homicidal aim."
Cicero

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

I love your lessons on the 2nd. I honestly have no knowledge of why it was written except that there has NEVER Been a government that has not become corrupt. NEVER. So our founders coming fresh with that knowledge attempted to give the citizens of the new nation the ability to remove said government WHEN not if it became corrupt. Your post allow me to understand the readings and knowledge used to bring our country to reality and hopefully alive long into the future. We as citizens are responsible for the government staying the course. When they become an entity that no longer truly serves the people our founders gave us the ability to not become victims. Hopefully we will not become said victims no matter how unpleasant it may be.

nathanweddings

Huh?

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

There are more coming.
Currently laying out historical groundwork.
Thank you for the kind words.

Photo Girl Loc: SE Pasco County, FL

When the 2nd Amendment was adopted in 1791. Weapons consisted of muskets and cannons. If our forefathers ever thought that weapons would have evolved to what is available today, I am sure the 2nd Amendment would have been worded differently. Why are we allowing assault weapons that should only be in the hands of trained military personnel, to be purchased by individuals?

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

Basically the forefathers wanted us to have whatever was common weapons so we could remove the government if needed. Do you think the forefathers would have believed in freedom of speech if they knew the internet was coming? Or morals and values were to become a argument instead of commonplace? The second amendment was not about anything except making sure the people could remove the government if it decided to not be a servent of the people. Instead a government that decided how the people should live and what they should believe. You the average tax payer pay at LEAST 60 percent of the money you earn in taxes. 30 in payroll and then tax on gas what you buy property taxes license plate taxes state taxes ect ect. Our forefathers revolted for a whole lot LESS than that. In fact labor is not supposed to be taxed only the products of labor. We can argue forever but that's what the 2 party system counts on. The REPUBS and Dems are dividing the country while they all line their pockets. Also the job of senator and house were not meant to be careers. They were service to the people jobs that were similar to jury duty except you were elected. Lol.
Also assault weapons are so serverally taxed and such that only a handful of people have them. Just because the media pushes the AR-15 as an assault weapon does not make it true. I have a rifle that is about twice as powerful and has at least double the range of the aforementioned and you never hear a word about it. Why? It's a very dangerous weapon in the wrong hands. Israel has no school shootings and we only started having them as soon as we made schools gun free zones. We taught weapon handling in schools and had no mass school shootings. The only thing that has changed is schools are now gun free. The last school shooting in Israel was 1974. Read up on how they handled it. It doesn't fit the political narrative but it sure is effective.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

These lessons are for those who believe in the Constitution as written and believe in individual liberty.
These lessons will provide references to use against those who hate America, hate individual liberty and are clueless about the Second Amendment.
Those haters will make personal attacks because they have nothing else except for lies and liberal DNC talking points from either complete idiots or liars who know the truth but bank on the complete ignorance so prevalent today regarding the Founders.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

Weapons of “the day” (1700’s) were muskets, pistols, rifled-bore long guns and shotguns. Also cannons, bombs and mortars. In other words, weapons of the colonists by-and-largely matched the weapons of the British Crown soldiers.

It matters not what the founders thought weapons might evolve into. There is no indication it would have altered their desire to ensure the rights of self-protection and the ability of The People to physically protest the actions of an unjust government. You might think the founders would have written differently had they been prescient, but THEY WERE NOT, so that is just your opinion.
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You have evidently fallen for the false narrative of untrained news-person types, people who do not even know what weapons actually are. And these individuals feel they have some sort of “bound duty” to portray things they do not like (or understand) in the most negative emotionally-charged terms available. Making “News” a priority.

1. ANY weapon or almost any item may become an “assault weapon” if used to assault another being. Guns, knives, bats, clubs, cars, bricks, branches, canes, hands, feet, ashtrays, flower pots . . . The list is almost endless.

2. There is a SPECIFIC DEFINITION of what an “assault rifle” actually is: A small-caliber, medium velocity, selective fire, magazine fed, shoulder-mounted rifle. Note particularly the “Selective Fire” specification! THAT is the distinction between a SEMI-AUTOMATIC weapon (one discharge for one trigger press) like a “modern sporting rifle” or other semi-automatic weapon, and a selective-fire SEMI or FULL-AUTOMATIC weapon (multiple discharges during continual trigger depression).

3. The weapons used by killers recently, are NOT assault rifles, but rather what are termed as “modern sporting rifles”. This is because of their size, weight, utility, and customization possibilities.

There appears to be an “(im)-perfect storm” brought about by mental instability of individuals, common availability of weapons, and the targeting of “gun-prohibited” locations.
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I think there will ultimately be further restriction on weapon purchases; these may well include age restrictions (> age 21), mandatory pre-sales Federal background checks (including at gun shows), ‘waiting periods’ (three to five days prior to delivery).

I do not think an outright ban of “military ‘look-alike’ weapons” will take place. Neither do I think there will ever be a ban and mandatory buy-back as proposed by the Canadian government under Trudeau.

If these options are instituted, and reduce the number of incidents, good. If not, then other options may be pursued, including some sort of mental screening or evaluation.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

A VERY interesting point: “. . . Israel has [had] no school shootings and we only started having them as soon as we made schools gun free zones.(*) We taught weapon handling in schools and had no mass school shootings. The only thing that has changed is schools are now gun free. The last school shooting in Israel was 1974. Read up on how they handled it. It doesn't fit the political narrative but it sure is effective.”

Again, information on the ineffective practice of making schools “gun free” locations. Places where demented offenders are aware there is little likelihood of armed response to a shooter.

Personally, I think training, qualifying and arming teachers could go a long way to preventing the incidents of school-shootings. If a potential shooter knows the area may be protected by armed teachers (or other individuals), the incidence of school shootings would likely be reduced.

Rather than have the liberal anti-gunners immediately commence screaming “no guns, no guns”, or “it won’t work” why not TRY allowing trained armed teachers in some locations, and SEE IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE?
Rather than signs proclaiming “Gun Free zone” there could be signage stating “Protected by Armed and Trained Staff”.

(*) Emphasis added —wyantry.

tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio

We need to stop referring to AR 15's as assault rifles.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

Utah is an example of teachers allowed to be armed. I believe the law was passed in 2000 or there about. They have had zero school shootings. The amount of teachers carrying in school in Utah is unknown because they don't have to report they are carrying.

chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA

Weapons consisted of far more than just muskets and cannons.
The knock gun was a very popular although quite overpowered weapon of the 1700s it was a multiple barrel weapon and although each barrel was loaded individually there were models that had a removable barrel cluster which would have allowed someone to reload the volley and the barrels and action would be switched out with the now empty ones much like a magazine in the AR-15 or the m1 carbine weapon.
However since I was not there I can't assume to know what weapons they had in mind or even considered would be created by future generations.
What I and everyone else do have to go on is what was written.
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

jcboy3

And the way you tell whether a person is bearing a weapon for self-defense and bearing a weapon with the intention to kill? Wait for the body bags.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

Just like we do with drunk drivers right?

jcboy3

Why? They seem to be most notorious for assaulting children in school.