was it the shadow
Nov 16, 2012 12:40:49 #
No--it was Spiderman ! :-)
Had I been there, I would have posed the group on the other side of the building--in the shadow of the building. Just a thought. alyn
Had I been there, I would have posed the group on the other side of the building--in the shadow of the building. Just a thought. alyn
Nov 16, 2012 12:41:56 #
No--it was Spiderman ! :-)
Had I been there, I would have posed the group on the other side of the building--in the shadow of the building. Just a thought. alyn
Had I been there, I would have posed the group on the other side of the building--in the shadow of the building. Just a thought. alyn
Nov 16, 2012 14:56:41 #
If where they are posed is important, then a strong flash-fill would have helped, but at the distance you were from the group, it would have had to be a pretty hefty flash. Trees can be your worst enemy on a sunny day :)
Nov 16, 2012 15:46:07 #
RoyLegrand wrote:
Hi, Turtlepond! br I personally think that your pi... (show quote)
You are why I love photography. If everyone saw the same thing when they looked at nature, it would be a pretty boring place. We all see things differently. You have really made me feel good about my picture. This was the last time this group of guys will work together. I want to give it to the guy who is leaving.
Roy, you should be a poet. Thank you for a great perspective on my photo.
Nov 16, 2012 18:04:35 #
The PS is verification that you need to fix the problem in the camera. PS is not a fix all for wanna be photographers. I would suggest to try using the flash next time and work on getting the men together. With that size group it really requires multiple flash units to do it properly or at a minimum put them in a much better position. You could try moving the group to a place where the light is behind them. Don't be discouraged just use your imagination and when you look through the viewfinder and see all the shadows, they are not going to disappear when you release the shutter. What you see is what you get.
Nov 17, 2012 13:49:01 #
You'll definitely want to do it in even shade.
But even then the ball caps will likely be a problem.
Also check your white balance. It looks too blue to me...suggesting tungsten.
But even then the ball caps will likely be a problem.
Also check your white balance. It looks too blue to me...suggesting tungsten.
Nov 17, 2012 15:00:21 #
MtnMan wrote:
You'll definitely want to do it in even shade.
But even then the ball caps will likely be a problem.
Also check your white balance. It looks too blue to me...suggesting tungsten.
But even then the ball caps will likely be a problem.
Also check your white balance. It looks too blue to me...suggesting tungsten.
Thank you MTnMan... I will give it a go...
Thank you all for your thoughts... It was one of those spur of the moment shots. Everyone was kind of waiting around. I will make it worth my while the next time...
Nov 18, 2012 11:55:08 #
Nov 18, 2012 12:28:09 #
IMO, all of these "fixes" change the look of the image, but none of them address the problem. It was shot without regard to the dappled sun - it is a mistake made by amateur photographers all the time. I saw it a lot when working in a photo retailer - people blamed our printing for the "splotches" and refused to accept that the sunlight through the leaves was there when they took the image. I am NOT suggesting that is the case here. But the OP did agree that, "I didn't realize how much shade from the trees there was."
That is because it takes some experience - and getting shots like this - to learn to really look at a scene and notice extraneous light, poles/branches growing from heads, subjects that merge into a background, etc.
Now if you like this, fine. As a casual snapshot of a group of friends/coworkers it is no big deal. But as a high-quality image, it falls a bit short. It was shot wrong and no amount of "...I hope you don't mind" is going to repair this.
That is because it takes some experience - and getting shots like this - to learn to really look at a scene and notice extraneous light, poles/branches growing from heads, subjects that merge into a background, etc.
Now if you like this, fine. As a casual snapshot of a group of friends/coworkers it is no big deal. But as a high-quality image, it falls a bit short. It was shot wrong and no amount of "...I hope you don't mind" is going to repair this.
Nov 18, 2012 14:20:04 #
CaptainC wrote:
That is because it takes some experience - and getting shots like this - to learn to really look at a scene and notice extraneous light, poles/branches growing from heads, subjects that merge into a background, etc.
That is because it takes some experience - and getting shots like this - to learn to really look at a scene and notice extraneous light, poles/branches growing from heads, subjects that merge into a background, etc.
Right...but it is learning experience for all.
First on what to look for when taking the shot. Alas often with a casual shot the subjects sometimes aren't as inclined to take direction or it just isn't possible to move the herd. You have to do the best you can in the circumstance. In this case getting them to take off their ball caps and moving them to the most even light possible might be the best you can do. Some may not agree to take off their caps.
Second we see illustrations of what post processing can and can't do.
I'm impressed by how well the single shot HDR did on removing the face shadows. A similar but more tedious approach is to create a masked layer with the exposure upped and then brushing in only the parts you what brightened in the composite. I have tried that though and I found it difficult to make it seamless.
Nov 18, 2012 15:38:58 #
CaptainC wrote:
IMO, all of these "fixes" change the loo... (show quote)
Thank you CaptainC. I am an amature photographer. You are right on. I usually do look a little better to make sure of the shot, but this was a spur of the moment. Everyone was standing around waiting on some results of a contest. I removed some of the blue hue and the picture looked a little better. I only want to improve on my photography. With comments like yours it will only help me become better. See what you think now.
Nov 20, 2012 11:57:33 #
If you want the shot of the people in that exact spot, but want to avoid the dappled effect, I think your best bet would be to reshoot it on a cloudy day. That will even out the shadows.
Mar 17, 2013 21:20:59 #
Up the white balance to get rid of the blue. Not much you can do about the mix of sun and shade. Next time try to put everyone into the same light.
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