wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

No one doubts that the RX10 mkIV is a great camera for its type. The key words are "for its type". I have had one of that type and the closest I will get to one again will be the TG-6 for non-serious shooting with expected camera "abuse". The RX10 mkIV depth of field is much greater than 4/3rds. And the low light ability falls short of regular 4/3rds ISO ability let alone the two spot increase of OM-1 over regular 4/3rds.

I have the E-M1 mkII and mkIII. If I had known that the OM-1 was coming out in less than five months, I would have saved my money for the OM-1 instead of the E-M1 mkIII. As good as the E-M1 mkIII is, the OM-1 is worth the extra money. The daughter of the OP has enough knowledge of photography from both the OP and her husband to get her choices down to Sony and Olympus. The assumption on my part is she will not go professional anytime soon. And it comes down to size, weight, and cost. Olympus/ OMDS is the winner here against Sony. The body's may be similar in size, weight, and price, but the lenses are where Olympus/ OMDS exceeds Sony. If the OP's daughter decides to go professional such that she would need full frame equipment like gene51 or gwilliam6 have, then she can sell her Olympus/OMDS equipment and purchase such. But for me, I have no plans at this time to print larger than a 30" X 40" print and I suspect the OP's daughter will be likewise at this time.

With the OM-1 and 12-100 lens, she would basically equal the size and weight of the Sony RX10 mkIV. And with one lens more, the 100-400, she would exceed the range of the Sony RX10 mkIV with better image quality. And if she would eventually buy the Pro 150-400 and 2X teleconverter, she could reach a handheld 2000mm angle of view in 35mm terms. One can only exceed that length with the $20,000 Canon 1200mm with the 2X teleconverter ($$$) and it cannot be handheld for proper shooting (and the Canon body is extra $$$$).

fdnave Loc: South Jersey

Thanks for your input. I sold my Canon equipment due to my age and hands trying to manipulate and carry the lenses which you know get to be pretty unwieldy. It suits me fine for my needs and at some point you may want to speak to the features of the RX10 IV that have been applauded by many.
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SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

If it suits your needs great, but as far as I can tell I’m the only one on here currently shooting with both the RX10MIV and the OM-1 and I love the Sony for situational shooting, (from a kayak), but the OM-1 takes it in every other situation.

Harry13

[quote=fdnave] I sold my Canon equipment due to my age and hands trying to manipulate and carry the lenses which you know get to be pretty unwieldy.]

Golly, I dunno - I was 91 in April and have no trouble with a Canon 5D and multiple lens. I'm 6'1", 235 so I'm not tiny but still I'm not as strong as I was 30 or 40 years ago. I have a half dozen or so lens, a 20, 35, 50, 85, 70-200 f 4 and a 70-300 plus a 1.4 extender. So far, lens manipulation is no problem. Harry PS I seldom if ever carry all of them at once unless I'm on an extended trip with two 5D bodies.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

The RX10 mkIV is 20mp while being a 1" sensor. And the range is very good although the image becomes a little less sharp at the telephoto end. But as the given photos in this thread show, if one is not printing 30" X 40", the images are excellent. And for people like SuperflyTNT, he can get good images without changing the lens while kayaking. There is a use for the RX10 mkIV just like there are proper uses for 4/3rds, APS-C, full frame, and medium format. If I was shooting professionally for a living, I would probably be shooting full frame and probably shooting Sony or Canon. But I am not shooting professionally and have no intentions of printing larger than 30" X 40". Therefore I have chosen 4/3rds because it allows the interchangeable of lenses while being a smaller, lighter, and less costly system than APS-C, full frame, and medium format without a loss of quality for my needs. I suspect by the bit of information given by the OP, his daughter may be of same requirements. No one here will fault her for choosing the Sony over the Olympus. And none of us will have to carry the size, weight, and pay the cost of such a system.

LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb

+1, or more votes if available, for the OM system. Excellent and enough smaller and lighter to be taken along various times when any other system will be left behind.

Harry13

Indeed. If she owns her own company, let it buy her a couple of different systems to try from a seller that'll let her return what she doesn't like/want. She also might consider some hand strengthening exercises. I mean, get a grip lady! <g> Harry

tropics68 Loc: Georgia

I have both a Sony A-6000 and an Olympus M1 MkII and for a newbie I would select a Sony APS-C model. (crop sensor and less expensive than the FF bodies). The Olympus has a menu that IMHO one of the worst in the industry. Image quality between the two brands is a coin toss.

stevefrankel

I've owned and used OM, APS-C, and full-frame systems. All of the bodies weigh about the same, but especially if you're going to go telephoto, the lenses will kill you in terms of cost and size. The Olympus cameras were my favorite in terms of size, weatherproofing, and cost, but that changed when I acquired a Leica CL system with its impeccable quality and ease of use and lenses basically the same size as the OMD's. I often crop my images sharply, and the difference between 16 and 24 pixels is dramatic when you're printing 16x20" or 20x30" enlargements. Also, the Leica sensor provides a color palette and an ethereal quality that the OMD can't match. As for the costs, the Leica CL is now an orphan, and the costs between the CL and an Olympus M5 (my favorite) should be largely the same. As for telephoto capabilities, the 55-135 Vario Elmer (75-200mm equivalent) is probably the best lens I've ever used -- and it weighs only 18 ounces! My other "long" lens favorite is the f1.4 Sigma Contemporary 55mm (75mm equivalent) which costs about $400, is razor-sharp, and can fit into a shirt pocket. Sure, I'm giving up "anti-shake" and weather-proofing, but the beneficial trade-offs are dramatic. You may want to suggest a used CL in "excellent" condition as an alternative to a new Sony or Canon full-frame system. I recommend the Leica 18mm "pancake" lens and the Sigma f1.4 30mm lenses to complete her system. For about $3500 used from reliable dealers (the Sigma lenses are so inexpensive they can be bought new), they will beat any equivalent Sony or Canon system.

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Ive yet to see any system beat any other system. Just doesnt happen.

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zarathu Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine

I was talking about the vaccine developed in China for the Chinese, not the RNA vaccines in the USA and the rest of the world.

zarathu Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine

I am only using 4 lenses with my Canon R5(with IBS) now. I have a low coma distortion Tamron EF 17-35 that I rarely use, an EF Irix 150mm macro manual focus that is so sharp I use it with a 2x teleconverter and there is no loss in sharpness, a Canon RF 24-240(which gets me 6.5 stops of image stabilization), and a Canon RF 800/1120 mmm f11/15(the second number is with the 1.4 tele extender). With the 1120, I can reliably show whether a person is wearing glasses and what color at about 1/4 mile.

I gave up my Sigma 24-105 ART and 100-400 to my wife for her crop sensor Canon m50.

Most of the time my bag only has the two RF lenses, unless I know I’m going to need the macro for bugs.