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May 10, 2022 13:37:52   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
rangel28 wrote:
In the mornings in Kauai the monk seals tend to come on to the beach to sun themselves. I was able to get good photos using a 70mm-300mm lens with the bulk of my photos around 200mm.


A top-notch shot 🌀🎯🌀🎯🌀

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May 10, 2022 15:17:55   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I have a 150-600 lens but find I don't use it often because it is so unwieldy. Unless I want a really good IQ, I use my bridge camera with a mega-zoom lens for those long shots.

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May 10, 2022 15:33:17   #
btbg
 
amfoto1 wrote:
A monopod should be adequate and would be a lot nicer to travel with than a tripod.

I would put a monopod in my checked bag for the trip. Could get by without it if necessary. But the rest of my camera gear ALWAYS gets carried on... no way I'd check it! Confirm the airlines size regs and be prepared to show that it's camera gear that's too delicate to be checked, in case they try to insist you do so.

A 150-600mm weighs around 4.5 lb. That might not sound like much, but added to camera, other lenses and accessories you can end up with a 25 lb. backpack pretty quickly. That's not heavy for short treks, but can be a real pain lugging through the TSA inspection and hauling around in an airport... or jogging to meet the connecting flight at the other end of the terminal! When I've traveled with a full frame camera I usually carry a 20mm, 24-70mm, 135mm and 300mm f/4 lens (~3 lb.), along with a high quality 1.4X teleconverter (which works very well on both the 135mm and 300mm lenses). Since then I've gotten an excellent 100-400mm (~3.5 lb.) that can replace both the 135mm and 300mm. It also works well with the 1.4X TC, if needed. Total weight is ~22 lb with flash, light meter, spare batteries, etc. in a LowePro backpack that fits in an airplane overhead compartment.
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The Sigma Sport 150-600 weights more than six pounds, and it is worth the extra money and weight versus the other 150-600 lenses.

You are right about a backpack quickly getting over 25 pounds. Mine sometimes goes as much as 50, but it's worth the extra weight. You only have to carry all the weight through the airport. After that you can pull equipment out each day that you don't expect to be using on that day.

As far as how often someone will use a 150-600, I use mine almost daily, and will continue to do so until my new Nikon 400 f2.8 Z lens finally comes in which case it will be my primary lens. It weighs even more. How much weight you are willing or able to carry depends on shooting style, health, what you are most interested in shooting, location and a variety of other considerations.

My view is and always has been if you own it try to take it on a trip with you as you can't possibly use a lens that you left at home. However, I am careful not to buy a lens or camera body that I don't intend to use regularly. A 150-600 is a waste of money if you buy one and then leave it at home. It is worth every penny if you use regularly. Only the OP can be the judge of that.

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May 10, 2022 16:26:36   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
bnsf wrote:
Would it have been cheaper if you would have purchased a 2X and a 3x converter instead? They sell converter kits with different converter settings and would be cheaper than a lens. Don't forget with this big lens you will need to bring a monopod or tripod to hold this heavy lens. More baggage to put on the plane.


#1 no Nikon teleconverter is compatible with that lens.
#2 even if it was compatible you would lose autofocus at the long end because it would be over f/8
#3 a 3x teleconverter is never a good idea.
#4 I shoot the Nikon 200-500 handheld. There’s a good chance the 150-600 is lighter than that. Now if I’m gonna be holding on a subject for a longer time I use a monopod. If you’re shooting from a boat you could bring a bean bag and use the rail for support.

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May 10, 2022 16:36:35   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jbk224 wrote:
Heh Tugcapt...listen to what chg_canon says.
And, while you are allowed to bring cameras..that you can carry; a lens that big may have security asking questions and inspecting. Commercial photography is not permitted without a permit..and they may conclude that only a commercial photographer requires a lens that large. Also, no tripods are allowed. If you want to completely ruin your visit, then bring the lens. If crowded, they don't offer an extra seat in the 'welcome' theater presentation or on the launch for your equipment. And, they may not even allow you to take it on the Missouri as there is hardly room in places for you! Of course you can apologize to everyone bumping into you and your lens on the camera. I haven't even gotten to the sub.
Heh Tugcapt...listen to what chg_canon says. br An... (show quote)


Wow, sounds like too much trouble to even go. Might as well cancel! The OP never mentioned the Missouri, or the sub, and yes it would be crazy to take that big lens on either of those attractions. Not only would it be unwieldy but it wouldn’t be very useful. I wouldn’t even use the 28-300 for them. If it was me I’d bring it, packing it wrapped in clothes in a checked bag. When it was brought out and used during the trip would depend on what I was doing that day.

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May 10, 2022 17:42:59   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
tugcapt wrote:
Planning on taking a trip to Maui and Oahu in January. I have a Nikon 610. My longest lens is a 28-300. Wondering if that will be long enough to get photos of the seals and turtles in Hawaii while staying the required distance away from them.
Anyone have experience there? I’m leaning towards renting or buying a 150-600 for the trip. Looking for any thoughts.


You won't need a long lens for Monk Seals. If they are in the water, you will never see them. Its when they haul out onto a beach that they can be seen. And if near or on one of the resort beaches, someone will surround them with a cord that they tie up at about a 50ft distance that you are not allowed to pass by any closer. When they haul out onto a beach, they have been hunting constantly for several days, and they are really tired and go to sleep for several hours. You are not allowed to disturb them.

I have seen them on a number of beaches many times, and your 28-300mm would be fine.

The only long distance one I saw was from a boat along the Napoli coast where I could see one on an inaccessible beach from a great distance, and much too far for even the 150-600mm, provided you could hold it still in a rocking boat.

For turtles, a great place is Punalu'u Black Sand Beach on the Big Island. It's on the far southern side. The turtles do come out the water to rest. And you are not allowed to disturb them. But you can observe them from a short distance.


I actually have the 150-600mm lens and I would not consider taking it to Hawaii. Just too big and heavy.

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May 10, 2022 18:08:57   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Wow, sounds like too much trouble to even go. Might as well cancel! The OP never mentioned the Missouri, or the sub, and yes it would be crazy to take that big lens on either of those attractions. Not only would it be unwieldy but it wouldn’t be very useful. I wouldn’t even use the 28-300 for them. If it was me I’d bring it, packing it wrapped in clothes in a checked bag. When it was brought out and used during the trip would depend on what I was doing that day.


OP said he was going to Maui and Oahu. I don't know about you; but everyone I know who has never been to Oahu wants to go to Pearl Harbor. And, anyone who has gone to take pics of the turtles..should find that the 300 reach is enough. And the OP does not sound like he wants to take all of his gear. Of course everything depends on where and what you are doing. And....I brought the 28-300 and 16-35 on my trip to Hawaii and could not have been happier. Most suggestions came from this site and a couple of pro friends.

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May 10, 2022 23:19:47   #
ollie Loc: Ogdensburg, NY
 
I've been to Hawaii several times and can tell you you don't need any big telephoto for pictures of seals or turtles or even for whales Dec through Feb. They will be approaching you so you don't need to worry about getting to close. On Kuai the turtles were right in the harbor swimming and posing near the shore. the seals frequently haul themselves up onto the beach right in the middle of the swimmers and the whales are just off shore putting on a show. A whale watch around the new year amounts to a very short boat ride followed by the boat spending as much time getting out of the way of whales as approaching them. Hawaii is truly paradise especially for photographers. I'd be more concerned to make sure I had a wide angle with me for all the scenics. I did find a big telephoto handy for surfing action shots

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May 11, 2022 00:47:36   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jbk224 wrote:
OP said he was going to Maui and Oahu. I don't know about you; but everyone I know who has never been to Oahu wants to go to Pearl Harbor. And, anyone who has gone to take pics of the turtles..should find that the 300 reach is enough. And the OP does not sound like he wants to take all of his gear. Of course everything depends on where and what you are doing. And....I brought the 28-300 and 16-35 on my trip to Hawaii and could not have been happier. Most suggestions came from this site and a couple of pro friends.
OP said he was going to Maui and Oahu. I don't kno... (show quote)


That all may be well and true, but the main point is that just because he might take that long lens on the trip I think he’s probably smart enough to not take it on those attractions. I think on the sub that 28mm might not be wide enough.

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May 11, 2022 01:10:32   #
btbg
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
That all may be well and true, but the main point is that just because he might take that long lens on the trip I think he’s probably smart enough to not take it on those attractions. I think on the sub that 28mm might not be wide enough.


You are right. Just because you take a lens on a trip does not mean you have to take it with you for every attraction you go see. And 28 mm is not nearly wide enough for some of the photos you might want to take.

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May 11, 2022 01:29:34   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Agree. I think you're much more likely to see turtles on the big island, especially on the Kona side. I don't recall seeing seals in Hawaii. Maybe I wasn't in the right place. Then again, I'm jaded as I live within a three hour drive of Monterey and Carmel in California where the sea lions hang out in droves. Sometimes they even come up the Sacramento River and can be heard barking in the Capitol city, 100 miles inland. Good luck getting those great shots.

If I recall correctly these shots were taken with my 18-200 Canon kit lens. But then, Monterey is not Oahu and these animals are used to people. I was able to get within about 10 feet of the sleepy guy. There was a stone wall between me and him. I would never approach one of them directly. The big ones have a mouth full of teeth like a bear and they're just about as big.

Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread but I had to throw in my shot of the elephant seals that live further down the coast near San Simeon. I used my Tamron 150-600 on that one.
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Actually the breeding male northern elephant seals can exceed 5000 pounds.

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May 11, 2022 01:34:02   #
sergiohm
 
tugcapt wrote:
Planning on taking a trip to Maui and Oahu in January. I have a Nikon 610. My longest lens is a 28-300. Wondering if that will be long enough to get photos of the seals and turtles in Hawaii while staying the required distance away from them.
Anyone have experience there? I’m leaning towards renting or buying a 150-600 for the trip. Looking for any thoughts.


It is fine, I took a 250mm APS-C and got a turtle shot

Turtle during nesting season
Turtle during nesting season...
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May 11, 2022 07:16:39   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
sergiohm wrote:
It is fine, I took a 250mm APS-C and got a turtle shot


250 on an APS-C gives you an apparent 75mm more.

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May 11, 2022 07:20:24   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
That all may be well and true, but the main point is that just because he might take that long lens on the trip I think he’s probably smart enough to not take it on those attractions. I think on the sub that 28mm might not be wide enough.


You are right about the 28..that is why I am suggesting that he also brings a wide lens. I used my 16-35 and it was just fine.

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May 11, 2022 11:24:27   #
rangel28
 
joecichjr wrote:
A top-notch shot 🌀🎯🌀🎯🌀


Thanks!

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