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May 2, 2022 11:29:01   #
gwilliams6
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
I am astonished at how well Sharpen AI and DeNoise AI work as Lightroom plugins. For low light images, DeNoise is nothing short of magic.

But, download the preview apps and try them for yourself.



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May 2, 2022 11:30:00   #
gwilliams6
 
Ron 717 wrote:
You will end up completely confused by the pro and con remarks on here. Best advice is to download Topaz denoise Ai and sharpen Ai for the free trial period and give them a test drive. My opinion is they are definitely worth the price, but you decide for yourself.



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May 2, 2022 11:31:36   #
gwilliams6
 
TriX wrote:
Wow - excellent!


Thanks so much, Cheers

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May 2, 2022 11:38:43   #
gwilliams6
 
Joexx wrote:
Great photo.Can you add the raw image please? I would like to compare what I could do (using LR &PS) with the Topaz results.


Thanks . The raw file is filed away. I dont post my raw files for anyone on social media to take, sorry, not personal, just one of my business rules. This was processed from a tiff (Topaz creates a tiff for you to work on) from the original raw file.

You just have trust me that in LR alone I could reduce some noise but would have also lost details. In Topaz Denoise AI, I got rid of the noise and still retained detail. Get the free trial version and play with it and see the differences on one of your raw files.

Cheers and best to you.

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May 2, 2022 14:02:02   #
Joexx
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Yes, yes, yes

One example: Could not have got this as clean in LR without losing detail. But in Topaz Denoise AI, I got rid of high ISO noise with a high megapixel camera and kept the detail of that 50mp sensor.

A Great White Egret bends its neck to clean its feathers on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin.

Sony 50mp A1 camera, Sony 200-600mm lens, 591mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/2000 sec. With Topaz Denoise used as a plug-in in LR as a final step to clean it up a bit. First the full frame , then a tight crop from same shot.

Well worth the cost of Topaz Denoise AI, IMHO. Many top pro Wildlife and Sports shooters use and love it.


Cheers
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Great photo. Could you please attach the original raw photo. I would like to compare the results using LR%PS. Thanks

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May 2, 2022 15:45:58   #
Joexx
 
Joexx wrote:
Great photo. Could you please attach the original raw photo. I would like to compare the results using LR%PS. Thanks


thanks for the reply. I completely understand not wanting to sent the RAW photo. Sorry for the double post. my login timed out & I didn't know the first message was sent.
Two years ago, I did download a copy of the Topaz suite & tried it out. It did seem to work quite well, but did not get me anything that I could not do with LR & PS. My "take-away" was the Topaz had a pretty good product suite and it might be easier or faster to use, but in the end, you could get the same or better results with LR & PS, so why spend the money? I was really looking for an excuse to buy Topaz, but didn't find one. Perhaps it has improved and now can do things you cannot accomplish in PS, but I am looking for examples. As to your comment that you could reduce noise, but you lost detail, PS has some really excellent capabilities to sharpen photos. Using those along with some masking, I have am able to get some really good results. There are many tutorials online on different methods. some require 20-30 steps. What I have done is make a script with all the steps and just let it run. In that way it is very easy for me to try our several different methods on a photo & not really need to think about it. BTW, LR does some thing really well, but the sharpening capabilities are rather poor. Kind of like trying to do a detailed sketch with a crayon rather than a fine point pen

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May 3, 2022 11:53:41   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Photojournal wrote:
Is there a much noticeable difference between Topaz denoise/sharpening Vs what can be done in Lightroom? Ie… is it worth the $$ for the results?


Yes. Depending on image content, image size and viewing distances it can be a modest improvement or massive one.

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May 3, 2022 13:32:54   #
Joexx
 
Gene51 wrote:
Yes. Depending on image content, image size and viewing distances it can be a modest improvement or massive one.


Yes, but if you gave the same photo to someone who was reasonably competent in PS And LR, could they do as good or better job? Discounting the time spent.

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May 3, 2022 13:57:35   #
gwilliams6
 
Joexx wrote:
thanks for the reply. I completely understand not wanting to sent the RAW photo. Sorry for the double post. my login timed out & I didn't know the first message was sent.
Two years ago, I did download a copy of the Topaz suite & tried it out. It did seem to work quite well, but did not get me anything that I could not do with LR & PS. My "take-away" was the Topaz had a pretty good product suite and it might be easier or faster to use, but in the end, you could get the same or better results with LR & PS, so why spend the money? I was really looking for an excuse to buy Topaz, but didn't find one. Perhaps it has improved and now can do things you cannot accomplish in PS, but I am looking for examples. As to your comment that you could reduce noise, but you lost detail, PS has some really excellent capabilities to sharpen photos. Using those along with some masking, I have am able to get some really good results. There are many tutorials online on different methods. some require 20-30 steps. What I have done is make a script with all the steps and just let it run. In that way it is very easy for me to try our several different methods on a photo & not really need to think about it. BTW, LR does some thing really well, but the sharpening capabilities are rather poor. Kind of like trying to do a detailed sketch with a crayon rather than a fine point pen
thanks for the reply. I completely understand not ... (show quote)


Latest Topaz Denoise AI is much improved from two years ago. It works much better than noise reduction in LR, not even comparable. Get a new free trial and see for yourself. Also DXO Raw is excellent for noise reduction also, better than LR also.

Cheers

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May 3, 2022 14:18:25   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Latest Topaz Denoise AI is much improved from two years ago. It works much better than noise reduction in LR, not even comparable. Get a new free trial and see for yourself. Also DXO Raw is excellent for noise reduction also, better than LR also.

Cheers


👍👍 Exactly.

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May 3, 2022 16:37:51   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Joexx wrote:
Yes, but if you gave the same photo to someone who was reasonably competent in PS And LR, could they do as good or better job? Discounting the time spent.


No

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May 3, 2022 17:52:44   #
gwilliams6
 
Joexx wrote:
Yes, but if you gave the same photo to someone who was reasonably competent in PS And LR, could they do as good or better job? Discounting the time spent.


No is correct answer. I have been using PS and LR since they first came out ,and their noise reduction while improved over the years is not as effective as Topaz Denoise AI and DXO Raw . And PS and LR noise reduction tends to lose detail, while I can get superior noise reduction and still retain details with Topaz Denoise AI or DXO Raw.

If you wont believe folks here, the best thing is to get the free trial and check it out yourself.

Cheers and best to you.

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May 3, 2022 22:53:22   #
Joexx
 
Thanks

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May 3, 2022 22:53:50   #
Joexx
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
No


Thanks

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May 4, 2022 16:55:34   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
I am back because last night I received and installed the latest update to Topaz Denoise AI.
So here is a picture OOC-cropped only, then processed including the last version of Denoise AI and now that image run through the latest update.
You can see differences at each stage.
#1 OOC cropped only
#2 Processed, colors, contrast etc. tweaked, Denoise AI and enlarged a bit
#3 #2 run through the newest version of Denoise AI with last night's update
In both #2 & #3 Denoise AI was in the "Clear" mode.
#4 enlarged with Gigapixel AI (with yesterday's updates) at 2x

I have Denoise AI, Sharpen AI and Gigapixel AI and consider them well worth the money.

I will also post this as thread of its own.

OOC 1st crop
OOC 1st crop...
(Download)

Edited & adjust crop+remove hanger end at LL
Edited & adjust crop+remove hanger end at LL...
(Download)

Run through latest version of Denoise AI
Run through latest version of Denoise AI...
(Download)

Run through latest version of Gigapixel AI (but posted at same image size)
Run through latest version of Gigapixel AI (but po...
(Download)

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