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May 1, 2022 07:08:14   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
You can try & simulate what TDN DOES IN LR if try the trial. For low noise it is possible. Why I'm not saying it is not possible for real noisy, high iso photos, it would probably take a substantial amount of time. The AI will just blow thru it in seconds. Then you can tweak the adjustments with sliders if need be. For me , it is worth it.

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May 1, 2022 07:41:28   #
ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA
 
Yes, the Topaz programs work better for me. However, Topaz is very dependent on a having a separate video card with sufficient RAM (on the card). Otherwise, processing takes forever, or the pictures won’t load at all. In other words, if your computer does not have the resources, don’t bother.

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May 1, 2022 08:33:11   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Photojournal wrote:
Is there a much noticeable difference between Topaz denoise/sharpening Vs what can be done in Lightroom? Ie… is it worth the $$ for the results?


I really like dpullams' response as well as CHG_CANONs' for factual unemotional responses.
While I do not currently use LR I have, and I'm sure a lot has changed, and the same can be said about Topaz Products.
So I will only address the Topaz Products from my perspective. Just like LR, Topaz Products spends a lot of time refining and improving its products with frequent updates.
On any given date, either LR or Topaz may suit your needs better today, than tomorrow.

I find that I have the Very Best results from Topaz Products when I:
1. Use only the very latest program revisions, and follow their workflow to the letter. https://topazlabs.com/the-ultimate-workflow-for-topaz-labs-ai-software/?utm_source=Topaz+Updates&utm_campaign=8c480bdca3-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_11_19_04_29&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5e4dd8652a-8c480bdca3-92602881&mc_cid=8c480bdca3&mc_eid=c9be7297b0

2. Use their default "AI" settings first and you will obtain a Very High success rate. You may always adjust from there.
3. Don't forget the Very useful tutorials at the startup of each program and the great masking option available for DeNoise AI and Sharpen AI.

Topaz Products Downsides:
So, now I spend a lot of time "Revisiting" some of my favorite pics. Topaz Products make me . . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends
Best Wishes

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May 1, 2022 09:09:59   #
ELNikkor
 
If there is a "learning curve", I don't have time for it. With Topaz Sharpen, Denoise, and Gigapixel I go click/click, wait a few seconds and the image is done to my satisfaction; move on...

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May 1, 2022 09:15:20   #
jsfphotos Loc: New York, NY
 
If you’re going to use a plug in I believe that ON1 No Noise AI is much faster and produces better results than Topaz. I’m sure you can sign up for a free trial for both.

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May 1, 2022 10:06:56   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
jsfphotos wrote:
If you’re going to use a plug in I believe that ON1 No Noise AI is much faster and produces better results than Topaz. I’m sure you can sign up for a free trial for both.


I tend to agree with you. I have both Topaz Sharpen and Denoise AI, then ON1 incorporated their version into Photo Raw. Even though I think ON1’s variation over does it a little in auto, I definitely prefer it over Topaz’s versions.

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May 1, 2022 10:09:14   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
Yes! I use both. It can work magic and sometimes not. But when it does it is awesome. I often just use DeNoise, seems to just make the photo crisper. If I could only have one it would be DeNoise. LR and it’s masks are so much better now. Used with DeNoise and it is a winning combo!

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May 1, 2022 10:17:40   #
gwilliams6
 
Yes, yes, yes

One example: Could not have got this as clean in LR without losing detail. But in Topaz Denoise AI, I got rid of high ISO noise with a high megapixel camera and kept the detail of that 50mp sensor.

A Great White Egret bends its neck to clean its feathers on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin.

Sony 50mp A1 camera, Sony 200-600mm lens, 591mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/2000 sec. With Topaz Denoise used as a plug-in in LR as a final step to clean it up a bit. First the full frame , then a tight crop from same shot.

Well worth the cost of Topaz Denoise AI, IMHO. Many top pro Wildlife and Sports shooters use and love it.


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May 1, 2022 10:47:33   #
gap925 Loc: Southeast Michigan
 
OMG. The Topaz products are worth every penny. (IMHO)

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May 1, 2022 18:19:41   #
goldenyears Loc: Lake Osewgo
 
gap925 wrote:
OMG. The Topaz products are worth every penny. (IMHO)


Just today I did my first project with Topaz Sharpen, Denoise and Gigapixel. I wanted a 12" x 16" print from a 647 Kb photo I took in 2004 with a Sony Mavica MVC-FD73 (the one that saved images on a floppy disk.) I ran the three programs, and a neighbor made a beautiful print for me of the final 19 Mb result. With practice I think I can use the Topaz software to produce even better results.

(Sorry, I've tried several times to upload the 19 Mb image without success. This is the original.)



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May 1, 2022 18:24:26   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
dpullum wrote:
You are asking for opinions from people who love ... and say ... "to opine is divine." I offer you no opinion of my own, I refer to those who have researched the situation at least in a semi-scientific way. If you want an answer beyond that one may get at the local pub, you should consult Mr. Google for help.

Regarding, worth, the money part, depends on budget, however, Topaz will do fine in low-cost editors and even free editors. Perhaps the question is why bother with Lightroom at all. One article said LR image must be transferred to PS to further refine, is that true? You have asked a two-part question regarding two Topaz plugins. Do you mean the old Topaz denoise and sharpening or the new AI versions? Part of your answer is below:

Topaz deNoise AI [Topaz Clear], "Granted, the Topaz results aren’t a huge difference from Lightroom, but the subtle quality differences are definitely there. I have to mention that it will definitely add more time and effort to use Topaz in your editing workflow, but I think it’s worth it." Examples are given in the article.
https://www.photoartfromscience.com/single-post/topaz-denoise-ai-versus-lightroom

"The difference is clear (pun intended). The Lightroom noise reduction version muddles the detail whereas Topaz DeNoise AI managed to remove the unwanted noise AND sharpen the details at the same time.
Lightroom is a great tool and is capable of a heck of a lot…but in this case, it is definitely not the best tool for the job. If you have an image where the detail is important (and seriously, when is it not?) I highly recommend running your image through Topaz DeNoise AI if you have unwanted grain."
https://angelaandrieux.com/noise-reduction-wars-lightroom-vs-topaz-denoise/

Photojournal, please educate me, why do you use PS and LR and pay a monthly fee vs buying a lower cost one fee excellent editor? Best Lightroom alternatives are discussed "This guide features our summarised recommendations of the best photo editing software in 2022, which can be bought for a one-time fee. We also include the top free Lightroom alternative options for photographers who aren’t ready to invest in paid software.":
https://shotkit.com/best-alternative-to-lightroom/
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Now that’s funny. You say you offer no opinion but your opinion is all over it.

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May 1, 2022 18:32:17   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Photojournal wrote:
Is there a much noticeable difference between Topaz denoise/sharpening Vs what can be done in Lightroom? Ie… is it worth the $$ for the results?


I am astonished at how well Sharpen AI and DeNoise AI work as Lightroom plugins. For low light images, DeNoise is nothing short of magic.

But, download the preview apps and try them for yourself.

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May 1, 2022 18:41:41   #
11bravo
 
TriX wrote:
Yes and yes. Topaz AI denoise and sharpen are the best of any SW I’ve tried - I bought both, and since they offered Gigapixel for a few$ more as a package, I bought it at the same time. Be sure to Google Topaz discounts - easy to get 20-25%.


Topaz has (or at least had) rotating sales, one product, say DeNoise, would be on sale for a month or so. Then another product, say Sharpen, would be on sale for a time. Then another... I picked up both this way, then completed the set by buying the package on sale. What is nice, the package price is reduced for the programs you already have. AND discounts could be combined: a discount percentage could be used on top of the sale price.

Finally, I found Topaz to be very responsive to questions. I was pleasantly surprised when several of their programs worked on my computer as I don't have a graphics card. I sent a question and they responded that the programs were using my 32GB of RAM in lieu of a video card. No guarantee of future success, but so far, all AI programs work. Certainly not the fastest, but these days, neither am I.

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May 1, 2022 19:35:28   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Yes, yes, yes

One example: Could not have got this as clean in LR without losing detail. But in Topaz Denoise AI, I got rid of high ISO noise with a high megapixel camera and kept the detail of that 50mp sensor.

A Great White Egret bends its neck to clean its feathers on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin.

Sony 50mp A1 camera, Sony 200-600mm lens, 591mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/2000 sec. With Topaz Denoise used as a plug-in in LR as a final step to clean it up a bit. First the full frame , then a tight crop from same shot.

Well worth the cost of Topaz Denoise AI, IMHO. Many top pro Wildlife and Sports shooters use and love it.


Cheers
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Wow - excellent!

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May 2, 2022 09:38:37   #
Joexx
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Yes, yes, yes

One example: Could not have got this as clean in LR without losing detail. But in Topaz Denoise AI, I got rid of high ISO noise with a high megapixel camera and kept the detail of that 50mp sensor.

A Great White Egret bends its neck to clean its feathers on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin.

Sony 50mp A1 camera, Sony 200-600mm lens, 591mm, ISO 1600, f6.3, 1/2000 sec. With Topaz Denoise used as a plug-in in LR as a final step to clean it up a bit. First the full frame , then a tight crop from same shot.

Well worth the cost of Topaz Denoise AI, IMHO. Many top pro Wildlife and Sports shooters use and love it.


Cheers
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Great photo.Can you add the raw image please? I would like to compare what I could do (using LR &PS) with the Topaz results.

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