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So, I've gotten roped into shooting a wedding. Yikes! Any advice greatly appreciated.
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Apr 28, 2022 08:44:29   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Among all the considerations you're currently pondering, keep in mind weather. What happens if it rains. Be prepared for that.
--Bob
Fredrick wrote:
OK, against my better judgement, I have agreed to shoot a wedding for my cousin’s son’s wedding. Please don’t tell me it’s a really bad idea and that I should offer to pay for a professional photographer. I know you all mean well. I’ve already done that. As a bit of background:
I recently took a series of photos at another wedding (as a guest … they also had a professional photographer) and sent them out to a number of relatives. This groom to be (this August), his fiancée, and his parents looked at the photos and called me and begged me to shoot their wedding. I said no, no, no and downplayed any expectations, but to no avail. They loved the photos that I did as a guest at another wedding, so I just don’t see a way out of this without jeopardizing our relationship. No, I’ve not shot a wedding before. I’m mostly a landscape and street photographer.
So, I’m going to go ahead with this, and here is where I would appreciate any help and insight you could provide:
I currently own a Fuji X100V (fixed 35mm FF equiv, 26mp camera) and a Fuji X-T2 (24mm MILC camera) with plenty of zoom and prime lenses. The X100V has a leaf shutter, enabling me to fill flash up to 1/4,000 of a second. I have just a little experience using flash outdoors or indoors.
The wedding will be at my cousin's house (with a huge backyard). The ceremony will take place in the afternoon in the backyard, and reception will be in the backyard and also inside the house. Probably around 40-50 people. Lots of young adults and laid back relatives.
What I’m trying to figure out is, which camera do I use? Do I use both? What focal lengths? All the photos that I took at the other wedding as a guest was with my X100V, using fill flash with the built-in camera flash. Do I use one camera for outside and one camera for inside the house? The X100V has a built in digital teleconverter for 50mm and 70mm (in addition to the 35mm) which I can easily change. Which flash unit (if any) should I buy? I’m looking at Nissin and Godox TTL flashes (and my head is spinning). I realize if I use a flash I will have to practice quite a bit for it to become second nature to me (I have 4 months before the wedding). I plan on shooting in RAW + Jpeg, and use PSE and Luminar for post processing.
As you can see, I have some decisions to make before I start practicing. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
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Apr 28, 2022 09:03:17   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Take both cameras. A wide to medium tele (24-105sh), should be sufficient to cover the entire event. Become proficient in the use of flash as your main lighting source, and as outdoor fill-flash. Know when and how to drag the shutter when indoors. Get a decent flash, and start practicing now.



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Apr 28, 2022 09:05:35   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Also, bounce your flash whenever possible.



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Apr 28, 2022 09:17:50   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
If you do it (you said you will) have a written list of shots you need IN ORDER with you and handy.

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Apr 28, 2022 09:41:43   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob
Picture Taker wrote:
If you do it (you said you will) have a written list of shots you need IN ORDER with you and handy.

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Apr 28, 2022 10:08:43   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Fredrick wrote:
OK, against my better judgement, I have agreed to shoot a wedding for my cousin’s son’s wedding. Please don’t tell me it’s a really bad idea and that I should offer to pay for a professional photographer. I know you all mean well. I’ve already done that. As a bit of background:
I recently took a series of photos at another wedding (as a guest … they also had a professional photographer) and sent them out to a number of relatives. This groom to be (this August), his fiancée, and his parents looked at the photos and called me and begged me to shoot their wedding. I said no, no, no and downplayed any expectations, but to no avail. They loved the photos that I did as a guest at another wedding, so I just don’t see a way out of this without jeopardizing our relationship. No, I’ve not shot a wedding before. I’m mostly a landscape and street photographer.
So, I’m going to go ahead with this, and here is where I would appreciate any help and insight you could provide:
I currently own a Fuji X100V (fixed 35mm FF equiv, 26mp camera) and a Fuji X-T2 (24mm MILC camera) with plenty of zoom and prime lenses. The X100V has a leaf shutter, enabling me to fill flash up to 1/4,000 of a second. I have just a little experience using flash outdoors or indoors.
The wedding will be at my cousin's house (with a huge backyard). The ceremony will take place in the afternoon in the backyard, and reception will be in the backyard and also inside the house. Probably around 40-50 people. Lots of young adults and laid back relatives.
What I’m trying to figure out is, which camera do I use? Do I use both? What focal lengths? All the photos that I took at the other wedding as a guest was with my X100V, using fill flash with the built-in camera flash. Do I use one camera for outside and one camera for inside the house? The X100V has a built in digital teleconverter for 50mm and 70mm (in addition to the 35mm) which I can easily change. Which flash unit (if any) should I buy? I’m looking at Nissin and Godox TTL flashes (and my head is spinning). I realize if I use a flash I will have to practice quite a bit for it to become second nature to me (I have 4 months before the wedding). I plan on shooting in RAW + Jpeg, and use PSE and Luminar for post processing.
As you can see, I have some decisions to make before I start practicing. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
OK, against my better judgement, I have agreed to ... (show quote)


You have received such great advice aside from run, hang yourself, break a leg, etc., so I will add just a few things:
1. Prior to the wedding visit each venue and take test available light/flash exposures, with a model if possible, with the lights on the same way they will be on the day of the event. Then go home and process the pics to see what you are able to do with the bright/dim/mixed lighting sources of each location.
2. Take as many "staged pics" as you can of the Bible/rings, veil/high heels, Mother helping the bride with dressing/makeup, Mother/Father/Bride. Get these pics out of the way and processed (if possible) BEFORE the big day. You do not need the stress of managing a "shot-list" on the day of the wedding.
3. Also, someone already recommended having a "helper" for managing the shot list and posing groups. This is VERY Important! Please try to remember to . . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends
Best Wishes

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Apr 28, 2022 10:10:42   #
rcarol
 
luvmypets wrote:
It's been many, many years since I shot a wedding but the one thing that I really wished for was a second camera body because I was constantly changing lenses. If I were to do one today I have 2 camera bodies. One would have the 70-200 and the other would have the 24-70. I would probably have the 15-30 and the 90 mm macro along for a few specialty shots.

Good luck and try to have a good time along the way.

Dodie


There is another reason to take a secomd camera - backup. The last thing you need is a camera/flash failure during the wedding. Even though your second camera has a fixed local length lens, it will allow you to at least salvage the day should your main camera fail.

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Apr 28, 2022 10:17:34   #
n4jee Loc: New Bern, NC
 
My normal lens for a wedding was a 35-70 it was used for just about everything. I had a second body with an 80-200 that usually only got used for available light shots on a tripod from the back of the church during the ceremony. Your short range zoom will do nicely. You probably won't need your fixed lens camera but take it as a backup or for low light candid's.
The old idea of the groom not seeing the bride before the wedding is pretty much a thing of the past. I would get posed shots of the bride, for sure, and bride and groom, if they agree, the week before the wedding. This has two benefits. One, the bride and groom will spend less time away from their guests on the wedding day and two, if they don't come out the way you wanted, you still have the wedding day for a second chance.
When taking the formal portraits, start with the largest group and take away. For example B&G + both sets of parents. Take away one set of parents and have them wait on the sidelines while you shoot the other parents. It's a lot easier then trying to round up the next group. Getting a list of the shots that the B&G want is a must. Be sure to include Aunt Matilda that is 103 years old and came half way across the country for the event. I shot one wedding where the mother of the groom died of cancer the month after the event. Those photos of her were especially important to the family. As suggested get an assistant that can organize the formals and shoot second camera for the candid's.
Flash: Best if off camera with umbrella or light box, and fired remotely. If it has to be on camera use a diffuser. Gary Fong makes a good one, but a quart soup container from a Chinese takeout restaurant with the bottom cut out to fit your flash and a little bubble wrap under the lid works even better. Point the flash towards the ceiling. A flash bracket that allows the camera to be shifted from horizontal to vertical while keeping the flash over the lens is helpful.
The best way to maintain friendships when doing business with family is to have a contract where everyone has a clear understanding of what is expected of them. Wedding photography is too stressful for many photographers. It's not like taking portraits in a studio where the customer can come in for a reshoot the following week. Best of luck, who knows this may be the start of a part time business for you. A similar situation got me started shooting weddings part time to subsidize my hobby.

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Apr 28, 2022 10:26:06   #
wishaw
 
If you must do it.
You do not have time to change lenses.
Need to find a place with a good background. Go a few days before and figure out what there is and what direction you will shoot.
Flash. Fill in flash if the sun is shining. No flash if it is cloudy.
You need a plan. Build the group so that you are not wasting time rearranging.
Bride full length
Bride and groom
Add the parents brides parents swap the men to the wrong side. Swap the men to correct side
Add the bridesmaids and grooms men
Take out the parents
Bride and bridesmaids together
Groom and men together
Close ups of bride and groom at end. She will be relaxed and ok getting her picture taken and you will get better pictures.
Do not say smile or cheese. The word is sausages
Good luck

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Apr 28, 2022 10:30:31   #
weedhook
 
If you are doing this for free, then I don't see how anyone could complain about the results. My only piece of advice would be that you need to be totally in charge of the photography. Make them do what you want done and when and don't put up with any attempts from the guests or even the wedding party to run things. I'm not saying be closed to reasonable suggestions, but you have to be in charge and act like it.

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Apr 28, 2022 10:50:00   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Bring your oxygen tank.
It's a mad rush, non stop. The cerrimony doesn't stop to pose.

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Apr 28, 2022 10:54:07   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Fredrick wrote:
OK, against my better judgement, I have agreed to shoot a wedding for my cousin’s son’s wedding. Please don’t tell me it’s a really bad idea and that I should offer to pay for a professional photographer. I know you all mean well. I’ve already done that. As a bit of background:
I recently took a series of photos at another wedding (as a guest … they also had a professional photographer) and sent them out to a number of relatives. This groom to be (this August), his fiancée, and his parents looked at the photos and called me and begged me to shoot their wedding. I said no, no, no and downplayed any expectations, but to no avail. They loved the photos that I did as a guest at another wedding, so I just don’t see a way out of this without jeopardizing our relationship. No, I’ve not shot a wedding before. I’m mostly a landscape and street photographer.
So, I’m going to go ahead with this, and here is where I would appreciate any help and insight you could provide:
I currently own a Fuji X100V (fixed 35mm FF equiv, 26mp camera) and a Fuji X-T2 (24mm MILC camera) with plenty of zoom and prime lenses. The X100V has a leaf shutter, enabling me to fill flash up to 1/4,000 of a second. I have just a little experience using flash outdoors or indoors.
The wedding will be at my cousin's house (with a huge backyard). The ceremony will take place in the afternoon in the backyard, and reception will be in the backyard and also inside the house. Probably around 40-50 people. Lots of young adults and laid back relatives.
What I’m trying to figure out is, which camera do I use? Do I use both? What focal lengths? All the photos that I took at the other wedding as a guest was with my X100V, using fill flash with the built-in camera flash. Do I use one camera for outside and one camera for inside the house? The X100V has a built in digital teleconverter for 50mm and 70mm (in addition to the 35mm) which I can easily change. Which flash unit (if any) should I buy? I’m looking at Nissin and Godox TTL flashes (and my head is spinning). I realize if I use a flash I will have to practice quite a bit for it to become second nature to me (I have 4 months before the wedding). I plan on shooting in RAW + Jpeg, and use PSE and Luminar for post processing.
As you can see, I have some decisions to make before I start practicing. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
OK, against my better judgement, I have agreed to ... (show quote)


Make sure you check out the church beforehand. see if you can attend the rehearsal. I hope it's a "small" wedding. Nowadays there are more than just one photographer at a wedding. You can't be in more than one place at a time. Good luck!!! And don't drink too much at the reception. Either that or DRINK A LOT!

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Apr 28, 2022 10:54:52   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Fredrick wrote:
OK, against my better judgement, I have agreed to shoot a wedding for my cousin’s son’s wedding. Please don’t tell me it’s a really bad idea and that I should offer to pay for a professional photographer. I know you all mean well. I’ve already done that. As a bit of background:
I recently took a series of photos at another wedding (as a guest … they also had a professional photographer) and sent them out to a number of relatives. This groom to be (this August), his fiancée, and his parents looked at the photos and called me and begged me to shoot their wedding. I said no, no, no and downplayed any expectations, but to no avail. They loved the photos that I did as a guest at another wedding, so I just don’t see a way out of this without jeopardizing our relationship. No, I’ve not shot a wedding before. I’m mostly a landscape and street photographer.
So, I’m going to go ahead with this, and here is where I would appreciate any help and insight you could provide:
I currently own a Fuji X100V (fixed 35mm FF equiv, 26mp camera) and a Fuji X-T2 (24mm MILC camera) with plenty of zoom and prime lenses. The X100V has a leaf shutter, enabling me to fill flash up to 1/4,000 of a second. I have just a little experience using flash outdoors or indoors.
The wedding will be at my cousin's house (with a huge backyard). The ceremony will take place in the afternoon in the backyard, and reception will be in the backyard and also inside the house. Probably around 40-50 people. Lots of young adults and laid back relatives.
What I’m trying to figure out is, which camera do I use? Do I use both? What focal lengths? All the photos that I took at the other wedding as a guest was with my X100V, using fill flash with the built-in camera flash. Do I use one camera for outside and one camera for inside the house? The X100V has a built in digital teleconverter for 50mm and 70mm (in addition to the 35mm) which I can easily change. Which flash unit (if any) should I buy? I’m looking at Nissin and Godox TTL flashes (and my head is spinning). I realize if I use a flash I will have to practice quite a bit for it to become second nature to me (I have 4 months before the wedding). I plan on shooting in RAW + Jpeg, and use PSE and Luminar for post processing.
As you can see, I have some decisions to make before I start practicing. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
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Be prepared to be reviled by everyone. Based on personal experience.

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Apr 28, 2022 10:55:49   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
As the saying goes, "May the Lord have mercy on your soul." I've been a wedding photographer's "assistant" at three weddings and I have never worked so hard in all my life. My advice is to consult with the future bride and groom and create a list of the staged shots, as well as who should be in them, that they would like to have for their album. Of course, having stock images for them to choose the type of poses that they are to be placed in is a big help too. Get an assistant to help get the folks that are to be in the shot there when needed and to "tote that barge and lift that bale" to get the gear set up where and when needed....sounds easy, but it is not.

When you know what shots will be taken and where they will be staged, it makes selecting the best camera, lenses, and lighting for those shots easier and far less stressful...especially when you have someone that can help get it all ready for you so that you can concentrate on "getting the shot" for their lifetime of memories.

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Apr 28, 2022 10:57:31   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
User ID wrote:
Discussions or advice about gear are pointless blather. No gear required.

Get unroped, or kill yourself. Not joking. Really hoping you choose to live, but its all beyond my reach.


LMAO....l came VERY close to saying the same thing.

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