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Apr 26, 2022 13:37:57   #
mikee
 
Dannj wrote:
The “reason” may be to make us think we’re getting more than we really are. It can be deceptive but it’s the quantity listed on the container that matters. As long as the amount inside agrees with what’s printed on the container, it’s not an issue.


I agree, read the labels. You know the yogurt cups are indented when you buy them (but the quart size isn't). My peeve is they sell ice cream to consumers by the gallon (volume) but buy milk from the dairy by the pound (weight). And the creamery whips the ice cream full of air to expand the volume before packaging. Air is a cheaper ingredient than cream. Not sure if it's still allowed, but saw hot dogs being made once. They were shoveling ice into the mix. They were limited by law to only add enough water to allow for mixing. So, after mixing, they added "ice" not "water" to get around the law. Water is cheaper than beef.

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Apr 26, 2022 13:47:44   #
Eric2018 Loc: Los Angeles, CA, USA
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
So here's something that's been pissing me off for years!

While we're at it, why is gasoline always priced with 9/10 cents at the end? Like, $5.99 9/10?
Or why are so many items $x.99 or $x.95?
We all know the answer is to make us "think" (without thinking) that the price is less. So the $9.99 item is "thought" of as $9, not as $10. And a gallon of gasoline isn't thought of as what it really is -- $6.00 per gallon, but as $5 per gallon.
Marketers use odd shaped packaging to make it look like we are getting more. For instance, a cone with maximum diameter of 3 inches contains one-third the volume of a cylinder the same height and diameter, and almost nothing is sold in cubes, because those "look" smaller.
The only time I've seen gasoline priced without the 9/10 at the end was during price controls after the Vietnam war when the Federal Reserve Bank didn't control the growth of the US money supply.
-Eric

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Apr 26, 2022 14:38:43   #
sgt hop Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
 
Eric2018 wrote:
While we're at it, why is gasoline always priced with 9/10 cents at the end? Like, $5.99 9/10?
Or why are so many items $x.99 or $x.95?
We all know the answer is to make us "think" (without thinking) that the price is less. So the $9.99 item is "thought" of as $9, not as $10. And a gallon of gasoline isn't thought of as what it really is -- $6.00 per gallon, but as $5 per gallon.
Marketers use odd shaped packaging to make it look like we are getting more. For instance, a cone with maximum diameter of 3 inches contains one-third the volume of a cylinder the same height and diameter, and almost nothing is sold in cubes, because those "look" smaller.
The only time I've seen gasoline priced without the 9/10 at the end was during price controls after the Vietnam war when the Federal Reserve Bank didn't control the growth of the US money supply.
-Eric
While we're at it, why is gasoline always priced w... (show quote)


good questions.....

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Apr 26, 2022 14:46:27   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Eric2018 wrote:
While we're at it, why is gasoline always priced with 9/10 cents at the end? Like, $5.99 9/10?
Or why are so many items $x.99 or $x.95?
We all know the answer is to make us "think" (without thinking) that the price is less. So the $9.99 item is "thought" of as $9, not as $10. And a gallon of gasoline isn't thought of as what it really is -- $6.00 per gallon, but as $5 per gallon.
...
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-Eric


Many, many YEARS ago, if an item was $1 people would leave a dollar on the counter and leave the store. At $.99, they waited for their change.

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Apr 26, 2022 15:35:52   #
goofybruce
 
NOT OFFERING AN OPINION HERE, but there appears to be more than trying to "rip off" the consumer. The machinery to fill containers is built to the size of the outside package, so, for example, a machine designed to carry a 16 oz. container through the operation doesn't need to be tossed out if the same 16 oz. package has a "false bottom" so the container has just 15 ounces of product in it. A small machine can be added to the beginning of the line to insert the "new" bottom. With a product such as yogurt, you don't want air at the top since it will spoil, therefore you can't just "partially" fill the cup.
However, the print on the packaging doesn't require anything extra cost since it only needs a new plate to print the information --same ink, same size paper going through the print operation, etc.
HOWEVER, the packaging best have printed on it the "true" amount of product inside.
Since I don't eat yogurt (goes back to a summer of working in a cremery making yogurt and creamcheese), I will leave it up to someone else to do the survey to look at several brands to see if there is a difference in what is printed and the size of the container. Is Yoplait just 15 oz in a 16 oz container compared to Hood or some other brand? And are national brands getting smaller than regional or local brands?

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Apr 26, 2022 15:42:53   #
goofybruce
 
mikee wrote:
My peeve is they sell ice cream to consumers by the gallon (volume) but buy milk from the dairy by the pound (weight). And the creamery whips the ice cream full of air to expand the volume before packaging. Air is a cheaper ingredient than cream.


A farmer is paid by the "hundredweight" because milk direct from the farm varies by weight because of the amount of butterfat in the liquid. A jersey cow doesn't produce as much volume as a holstein, but the milk is worth more since a jersey cow produces more butterfat. By the time the milk is processed at a dairy, the butterfat content is all the same, and the packaging equipment is designed for "gallon" jugs, so milk is sold at retail by gallon, half-gallon or even the ever-popular school size of half-pints. As for air, premium ice cream has less air than regular ice cream and you can tell by the price --- and taste.

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Apr 26, 2022 16:33:50   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Ever notice the bottom of wine bottles?


There is a reason - to let any sediment settle to the sides.

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Apr 26, 2022 16:38:57   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
I get my cold cuts at BJs in Ct. and I have yet to have them sell me a pound of whatever meat or cheese that I buy. It's always a little bit more every time. It doesn't amount to much but I find it annoying. I'm sure management instructs them to do this. I don't imagine it amounts to a fortune but I'd like to know what it amounts to over a year.

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Apr 26, 2022 17:55:03   #
rplain1 Loc: Dayton, Oh.
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
So here's something that's been pissing me off for years!
I like yogurt. I enjoy the flavors, and it's a good healthy thing to consume. But, (and I'm assuming most of you have already noticed), some of the manufacturers, ("Yoplait" springs to mind), put "false" bottoms in the containers, (quarter to a half inch), so looking at it on the shelf, it looks like you're going to get, more than you actually do. I wonder, is there a reason for this "false bottom" or is it really a rip-off, still trying to fool us? When I purchase cans of beans, or cartons of cottage cheese for example, the contents extend and fill right down to the base, as it appears from the outside. Is it only yogurt companies that do this, and is there actually a valid reason, am I missing something, or is it just another way to rip us off? So, again, just wondering. It's really not an expensive item to begin with, but collectively, these items add up, and the bottom line is that I don't like to be ripped off, if that's what it is. (paying for something that visually looks larger than what it actually contained). So there you go, something new to ponder, and perhaps comment on, stay safe y'all, and have a great day,
Ray.
So here's something that's been pissing me off for... (show quote)


It has nothing to do with deception. Yogurt as well as Ice Cream will collect moisture on the bottom from condensation. The ridge prevents it from possibly soaking through the cardboard bottom and degrading the contents or having the bottom fall out when you pick it up.

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Apr 26, 2022 18:32:55   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
rplain1 wrote:
It has nothing to do with deception. Yogurt as well as Ice Cream will collect moisture on the bottom from condensation. The ridge prevents it from possibly soaking through the cardboard bottom and degrading the contents or having the bottom fall out when you pick it up.


"Yoplait" uses plastic containers.

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Apr 26, 2022 19:13:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
So here's something that's been pissing me off for years!
I like yogurt. I enjoy the flavors, and it's a good healthy thing to consume. But, (and I'm assuming most of you have already noticed), some of the manufacturers, ("Yoplait" springs to mind), put "false" bottoms in the containers, (quarter to a half inch), so looking at it on the shelf, it looks like you're going to get, more than you actually do. I wonder, is there a reason for this "false bottom" or is it really a rip-off, still trying to fool us? When I purchase cans of beans, or cartons of cottage cheese for example, the contents extend and fill right down to the base, as it appears from the outside. Is it only yogurt companies that do this, and is there actually a valid reason, am I missing something, or is it just another way to rip us off? So, again, just wondering. It's really not an expensive item to begin with, but collectively, these items add up, and the bottom line is that I don't like to be ripped off, if that's what it is. (paying for something that visually looks larger than what it actually contained). So there you go, something new to ponder, and perhaps comment on, stay safe y'all, and have a great day,
Ray.
So here's something that's been pissing me off for... (show quote)


It’s marketing. Buy by weight or volume and not visible container size.

Better yet, buy tubs of plain Greek yogurt and add your own fresh or frozen fruit, cereals, and flavorings. You won’t miss the artificial flavors, colors, conditioning fillers and other additives.

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Apr 26, 2022 19:47:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
I get my cold cuts at BJs in Ct. and I have yet to have them sell me a pound of whatever meat or cheese that I buy. It's always a little bit more every time. It doesn't amount to much but I find it annoying. I'm sure management instructs them to do this. I don't imagine it amounts to a fortune but I'd like to know what it amounts to over a year.

Separate issue.....

Could YOU accurately judge a pound of burger meat while it's coming out of the grinder?

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Apr 26, 2022 20:21:09   #
jimward Loc: Perth, Western Australia
 
The indentation at the bottom of a wine bottle is to collect the sediment. Wine bottles contain the full amount stipulated on the label (usually 750mm in our metric country). I speak from experience. I have opened - and emptied - many bottles in my lifetime.

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Apr 26, 2022 21:21:46   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jimward wrote:
The indentation at the bottom of a wine bottle is to collect the sediment. Wine bottles contain the full amount stipulated on the label (usually 750mm in our metric country). I speak from experience. I have opened - and emptied - many bottles in my lifetime.




In ancient times, wine bottles often were adulterated with wax to lower the volume of wine in the bottle. The Latin roots of the word "sincere" literally mean, "without (sin) wax (cere)." Thankfully, dimples in modern wine bottles have nothing to do with that.

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Apr 26, 2022 21:42:03   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
goofybruce wrote:
A farmer is paid by the "hundredweight" because milk direct from the farm varies by weight because of the amount of butterfat in the liquid. A jersey cow doesn't produce as much volume as a holstein, but the milk is worth more since a jersey cow produces more butterfat. By the time the milk is processed at a dairy, the butterfat content is all the same, and the packaging equipment is designed for "gallon" jugs, so milk is sold at retail by gallon, half-gallon or even the ever-popular school size of half-pints. As for air, premium ice cream has less air than regular ice cream and you can tell by the price --- and taste.
A farmer is paid by the "hundredweight" ... (show quote)


Well --- here's a man who knows!!! He's been on a farm! And around cows and dairies.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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