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Apr 22, 2022 20:20:53   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you think changing the aperture from f/8 to f/4 and getting down on a knee to capture the subject from a different angle is spray and pray, I'd like to talk to you in private about some property I have in Florida, something I'm sure you'll understand as a very clear opportunity. Please PM with FLA in the subject to confirm your interest.


No spray and pray is 30 fps from a $4,000+ mirrorless camera for 3 or 4 seconds hoping the subject will do something exciting. I wonder how many really great shots are lost in culling from visual overload?

This seems to be the "New Normal" however and we Shell Backs are just going to have to get used to it

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Apr 22, 2022 20:31:19   #
fobbox
 
Mustang1 wrote:
Many people love to say, "lucky shot" upon seeing a photo they like. Is a great photo always one derived purely from luck. Or is there a great photographer responsible for that exposure? Your comments please . . .


While not true 100% of the time, the old adage of luck is when preparation meets opportunity holds true most of the time.

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Apr 22, 2022 20:56:24   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Mustang1 wrote:
Many people love to say, "lucky shot" upon seeing a photo they like. Is a great photo always one derived purely from luck. Or is there a great photographer responsible for that exposure? Your comments please . . .


Luck or Great Photographer ... Neither, just a great fox willing to share.

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Apr 22, 2022 21:05:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
No spray and pray is 30 fps from a $4,000+ mirrorless camera for 3 or 4 seconds hoping the subject will do something exciting. I wonder how many really great shots are lost in culling from visual overload?

This seems to be the "New Normal" however and we Shell Backs are just going to have to get used to it


If you can't find a way to be successful in photography, find an excuse.

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Apr 22, 2022 21:05:44   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Paul, are you saying that if you had better equipment, say Canon mirrorless, then you would automatically "be there" where all the great images are found?


If you're not shooting Canon, you're the only one cheating yourself out of success in photography.

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Apr 22, 2022 21:33:38   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Mustang1 wrote:
Many people love to say, "lucky shot" upon seeing a photo they like. Is a great photo always one derived purely from luck. Or is there a great photographer responsible for that exposure? Your comments please . . .


Generally one makes their own luck.
Example is one spends days, weeks at a location and then that once in a lifetime awesome shot happens and is captured.
Also there is the truly lucky shot, but you still had to have thought to bring your camera and be ready with the correct lens etc.

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Apr 22, 2022 21:37:57   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
I feel there is a continuum between Snapshots taken with Automatic Point & Shoot Cameras/Smartphones and
the more Professional Cameras normally covered by the UHH.
The simpler, more automatic equipment is available at a moment's notice and will generally produce a fairly sharp,
well focused picture in a few seconds.
Larger Multi-Lens cameras can arguably produce clearer shots, often at the expense of Setup time, Auto Focus Time,
and other complexities.
In my case, I use Both types of devices, but do get more momentary shots with my Smartphone.

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Apr 22, 2022 21:43:28   #
fstoprookie Loc: Central Valley of California
 
I am a believer of being in the right place at the right time. That could be planed or just being lucky. It depends on your prospective. I have a range of photos that I was "Lucky" to be in the right place at the right time to capture them. Some I would have never seen if it hadn't been for my wife. She has a GRERAT eye. Lots better than mine on occasions

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Apr 22, 2022 21:47:06   #
Ed48 Loc: Superior, Wisconsin
 
Is that why you show that your only MILC is a SONY?

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Apr 22, 2022 22:57:28   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
Sometimes you might get lucky and be at the right place at the right time and get an extraordinary capture.
But most of the best images taken are due to the experience and skill of the photographer.

will

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Apr 23, 2022 01:26:39   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you're not shooting Canon, you're the only one cheating yourself out of success in photography.


I must be successful. I have a Canon T-90 and a good dog.

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Apr 23, 2022 07:42:13   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Sometimes you're the bug,
sometimes you're the windshield.

Luck.

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Apr 23, 2022 11:35:19   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you think changing the aperture from f/8 to f/4 and getting down on a knee to capture the subject from a different angle is spray and pray, I'd like to talk to you in private about some property I have in Florida, something I'm sure you'll understand as a very clear opportunity. Please PM with FLA in the subject to confirm your interest.


"Get the image in focus and shoot lots of versions. Learn to keep only the best one or two."

That statement does not give clear indication that all photos taken are great, or even good. especially when you added learn to keep only the best one or two. Sounds like only four or maybe five may be okay. Still sounds like a spray and pray to me. As for your Florida property, I have some great ocean front land in Arizona that I'll trade you for it.

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Apr 23, 2022 13:09:05   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Spray and pray has worked for me with small birds. Sometimes I can get a decent shot out of a dozen or so. The bird may only be photogenic for a second or so. I don't have the reflexes to capture just that second. If spray and pray is available, why not use it?
Here's an example of spray and pray. This cardinal landed and stayed there for about 4 or 5 seconds before flying off. By the time I zoomed in on the lens and autofocused I had a couple of seconds at most. On the first pic the bird was partially obscured by a shadows. On the second it wasn't.
I've taken many pics of small birds. When the bird turns just so and I can get an interesting shot, I consider that a lucky shot.

Below another example of spray and pray and a lucky shot. Hand held tracking the gulls. I didn't even see the food in the white gulls mouth that the dark gull is looking at.


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Apr 23, 2022 13:12:35   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
"The more you practice, the luckier you get" attributed to a football coach.

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