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Apr 15, 2022 08:07:20   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
I've been wanting to coin a few words myself.

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Apr 15, 2022 08:45:19   #
insman1132 Loc: Southwest Florida
 
Buy it! Use it! Don't look back!! 98.5% of all new equipment never requires First Year Warranty repair.

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Apr 15, 2022 10:24:42   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
insman1132 wrote:
Buy it! Use it! Don't look back!! 98.5% of all new equipment never requires First Year Warranty repair.


And then along comes Murphy's Law.

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Apr 15, 2022 12:04:29   #
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foathog wrote:
acoarst? are you coining a new word??

ROTFLMFAO

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Apr 15, 2022 12:04:31   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
insman1132 wrote:
Buy it! Use it! Don't look back!! 98.5% of all new equipment never requires First Year Warranty repair.


And what about second, third, fourth, and fifth year non-warranty service? It is not just about the warranty. If you purchase gray market Nikon equipment, Nikon USA will not service it even if you're willing to pay for that service. That means you will have to find a third party repair shop that has somehow got its hands on Nikon parts from a source other than Nikon USA. Purchasing gray market Nikon gear comes with risks. In my opinion the cost for that gear would have to be very significantly lower to warrant that risk.

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Apr 15, 2022 12:14:06   #
User ID
 
rmalarz wrote:
English is probably not User ID's primary language.
--Bob

Longest Ive ever stayed on england was only 10 days, decades ago. They are not so easy to understand in speaking. Prolly from being an island.

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Apr 15, 2022 12:29:27   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
mwsilvers wrote:
And what about second, third, fourth, and fifth year non-warranty service? It is not just about the warranty. If you purchase gray market Nikon equipment, Nikon USA will not service it even if you're willing to pay for that service. That means you will have to find a third party repair shop that has somehow got its hands on Nikon parts from a source other than Nikon USA. Purchasing gray market Nikon gear comes with risks. In my opinion the cost for that gear would have to be very significantly lower to warrant that risk.
And what about second, third, fourth, and fifth ... (show quote)


That's why I brought up before, if they can get grey market cameras, why not grey market parts? There is nothing illegal, AFAIK, about importing part.

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Apr 15, 2022 12:45:59   #
photoman43
 
tramsey wrote:
Rather than buy grey market I buy used mainly from KEH but a couple of other distributors also. I like KEH because of their grading system, there equipment is always better than what they rated it. Another reason they stand behind the sale, almost to a fault.


Yes, buy used as long it can be repaired by Nikon. Never buy Nikon grey market gear.

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Apr 15, 2022 13:08:50   #
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Bill_de wrote:
That's why I brought up before, if they can get grey market cameras, why not grey market parts? There is nothing illegal, AFAIK, about importing part.

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That isnt illegal, and as a bonus its also humorous. Just think your way through the process, inch by inch and month by month and youll see whats humorous about it. Kinda reminds me of getting parts for my Citroen. Acoarst thaz only funny in retrospect.

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Apr 15, 2022 13:13:57   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Bill_de wrote:
That's why I brought up before, if they can get grey market cameras, why not grey market parts? There is nothing illegal, AFAIK, about importing part.

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That seems logical assuming that non affiliated repairs shops can actually get the spare parts and they have technicians with the proper skills to perform repairs, service and calibration equal to Nikon's official service centers.

Its not a bargain if possibly non-OEM parts are installed by technicians who may lack the proper knowledge, skills, and testing equipment. For the relatively small difference in cost between authorized dealer purchases and grey market purchases, the peace of mind alone is worth the additional cost to me.

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Apr 15, 2022 13:18:18   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
mwsilvers wrote:
That seems logical assuming that non affiliated repairs shops can actually get the spare parts and they have technicians with the proper skills to perform repairs, service and calibration equal to Nikon's official service centers.

Its not a bargain if non-OEM parts installed by technicians who may lack the proper knowledge, skills, and testing equipment. For the relatively small difference in cost between authorized dealer purchases and grey market purchases, the peace of mind alone is worth the additional cost to me.
That seems logical assuming that non affiliated re... (show quote)


Up until recently Nikon was outsourcing much of their repairs. The skills must be out there.

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Apr 15, 2022 13:24:17   #
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Bill_de wrote:
Up until recently Nikon was outsourcing much of their repairs. The skills must be out there.

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Yes the skills would still be out there but what about the denial of any updates for diagnostic and testing systems ?

A $5000 Nikon you can just throw away. A million $$ John Deer is another story. But OTOH its also the same story.

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Apr 15, 2022 14:38:19   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Agree. Buying Nikon grey market gear in the USA is a risky decision no matter where you buy it since Nikon won't service it.


This is no longer true.

Nikon WILL service gray market gear.... But they do so at the owner's expense. There's no factory warranty.

The problem with Nikon gear is getting it worked on anywhere else, because except for some pretty basic stuff Nikon has a policy of not selling replacement parts. If a shutter or mirror or PCB board is needed, good luck getting it! Those are only available to Nikon's own factory service centers. (Two or three in the US.)

In addition, a year or two ago Nikon "fired" their 15 or 20 "authorized" repairers, so now the only place to get much of the work done is in Nikon's own service centers.

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Apr 15, 2022 18:38:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
foathog wrote:
acoarst? are you coining a new word??


That "word" is used frequently here.
Cannot figure it out yet.

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Apr 15, 2022 20:24:29   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
amfoto1 wrote:
This is no longer true.

Nikon WILL service gray market gear.... But they do so at the owner's expense. There's no factory warranty.

The problem with Nikon gear is getting it worked on anywhere else, because except for some pretty basic stuff Nikon has a policy of not selling replacement parts. If a shutter or mirror or PCB board is needed, good luck getting it! Those are only available to Nikon's own factory service centers. (Two or three in the US.)

In addition, a year or two ago Nikon "fired" their 15 or 20 "authorized" repairers, so now the only place to get much of the work done is in Nikon's own service centers.
This is no longer true. br br Nikon WILL service... (show quote)


When did this change in support occur? If it is true that is welcome news.

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