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Apr 12, 2022 13:41:35   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
cyclespeed wrote:
Plan to get to Chicago later this summer. Will I be safe? Will all the ghost guns be out of the hands of Americans who would care to use one?


Chicago? What about NYC. This morning I heard that some nut set off a smoke bomb in the subway and shot a bunch of people and others were hurt in the confusion that followed. I haven't heard the report recently, but the last I saw was that 5 were shot and 13 hurt. Apparently the guy was wearing a gas mask and an orange safety vest at the time. This world's going to h*ll in a handbasket!

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Apr 12, 2022 14:01:03   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
bsprague wrote:
I've posted the same opinion before. Many times. It is usually ignored!

Full size cameras are great for when the primary mission is photography. If the mission is to be a learning tourist, they get in the way. My favorite examples are what you do with it in a typical crowded cafe and where to lock it up when you want to do something besides photography.

Get a small camera for "cultural" travel missions. Not only will it be easier to tote where you want to go, but if you want images of people that live there, they will be more friendly to tourists that don't point big cameras at them.
I've posted the same opinion before. Many times. ... (show quote)


Agree 100%. I've commented on similar questions several times. After realizing I was watching my daughter's ballet recitals and softball games through a viewfinder for a couple of years I realized I was missing out on all the good stuff of being a dad while taking what turned out to be crummy snapshots. I finally put the camera down. Well at least I took a lot less snapshots. Same thing when travelling. I take a few but I don't go to Europe or wherever to get it all on "film."

Unless you are on a very specific photo vacation where you plan out the shots you want and make the effort to be where you need to be to get the perfect lighting then I'd recommend leaving the big camera home and take a small pocket camera to capture a few shots just to jog your memory in future years. That's just the way I look at it and I know a lot of folks see things differently.

We went to Belgium and the Netherlands just before the pandemic and I have to admit I took the DSLR along and shot a lot of photos. I ended up making a very nice book of my shots. Kudos to Blurb for doing a bangup job with the printing and binding of the book, by the way.

Whatever way you decide to go, I'd strongly suggest taking along a quality pocket camera. They do a great job and are so much easier on an aging body, walking around Paris for hours. Make sure you see Sainte Chapell church when you're there. It has the most beautiful stained glass in the world ( my opinion ). I'll tell you right now you won't get great photos because the lighting sucks but it's worth your time if you appreciate medieval cathedrals.

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Apr 12, 2022 14:13:34   #
Hip Coyote
 
Folks, bad things happen. And it is not always predictable where it might occur. Statistically, Chicago has more crime and it is therefore more likely that one might be a crime victim there. But using "one off" incidents and indicative of anything is pointless. I was on a business trip in Indiana. On a day off my wife and I went bicycle riding along some bike trail in corn fields and happened upon (just missed it actually...victim still on the ground, suspect fled) a drug deal that ended up in a shooting...in Amish country. So am I now afraid of riding bikes in Amish country? No. Is it indicative that Amish county is dangerous? No, it is a one off incident. Am I cautious when in New York? Yes. Would I ride the subway? Yes.

I was in Great Britain when the bombs went off on their subway system and a bus...am I afraid, will I not ride the Tube or get on a bus? No. Am I cautious? Yes.

Go, have fun, be careful, keep your wits about you and live your life. The only thing worse than being dead is living a life in fear and holing up somewhere. Take your gear, take reasonable steps to protect it and move on. Keep Calm and Carry On!

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Apr 12, 2022 22:12:20   #
OleMe Loc: Montgomery Co., MD
 
Paris is a least as safe as St. Louie! Like any big city, be cautious - especially in crowds / tourist areas. Stay outta certain East St. Louie neighborhoods.

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Apr 13, 2022 00:50:31   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
planepics wrote:
I'm considering taking my a99ii (42MP) with me on my 3-week trip to France and Switzerland and my 24-105 f/4 attached. I would also consider taking my APS-C a77 (24MP) instead but I'd only get 36mm on the short end...probably not wide enough for the insides of churches, etc unless I added my 17-50 f/2.8, which weighs a fraction of the 24-105 and is a lot smaller to boot. Any thoughts? I have a strap and a harness (more conspicuous, but probably not as easy to steal off of). Thoughts?


Why would you take that “beast” travelling??? It was never designed for this purpose.

Cheers!

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Apr 13, 2022 07:38:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future.

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Apr 14, 2022 13:28:31   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
Folks, bad things happen. And it is not always predictable where it might occur. Statistically, Chicago has more crime and it is therefore more likely that one might be a crime victim there. But using "one off" incidents and indicative of anything is pointless. I was on a business trip in Indiana. On a day off my wife and I went bicycle riding along some bike trail in corn fields and happened upon (just missed it actually...victim still on the ground, suspect fled) a drug deal that ended up in a shooting...in Amish country. So am I now afraid of riding bikes in Amish country? No. Is it indicative that Amish county is dangerous? No, it is a one off incident. Am I cautious when in New York? Yes. Would I ride the subway? Yes.

I was in Great Britain when the bombs went off on their subway system and a bus...am I afraid, will I not ride the Tube or get on a bus? No. Am I cautious? Yes.

Go, have fun, be careful, keep your wits about you and live your life. The only thing worse than being dead is living a life in fear and holing up somewhere. Take your gear, take reasonable steps to protect it and move on. Keep Calm and Carry On!
Folks, bad things happen. And it is not always pr... (show quote)



Not living by using what life one has left is worse than dying.

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Apr 14, 2022 14:39:13   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future.


Well said "Yoda"!

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Apr 14, 2022 15:01:13   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
I seems this thread has taken a turn toward the philosophical. I'll take the a99ii and the 24-105 and if I need to, switch to APS-C mode to get more distance. I still haven't decided yet whether or not ot take my 12 MP bridge.

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Apr 14, 2022 17:40:49   #
hrblaine
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
Folks, bad things happen. The only thing worse than being dead is living a life in fear and holing up somewhere. Take your gear, take reasonable steps to protect it and move on. Keep Calm and Carry On!


ROFLMFAO And you've experienced both so we now have your expert opinion. If I had to choose between the two, death would NOT be my first choice! Harry PS I've never "lived in fear" not even when I was in combat in Korea so maybe I'll be OK with a camera in a large city. I used to wander around Seoul, taking pics with a 35mm and never had a problem. Harry

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Apr 14, 2022 17:52:50   #
Hip Coyote
 
hrblaine wrote:
ROFLMFAO And you've experienced both so we now have your expert opinion. If I had to choose between the two, death would NOT be my first choice! Harry PS I've never "lived in fear" not even when I was in combat in Korea so maybe I'll be OK with a camera in a large city. I used to wander around Seoul, taking pics with a 35mm and never had a problem. Harry


I actually have. No combat but many years of law enf in a major city at the height of the violent 80 and 90s. A shooting, a few colleagues killed, etc. I cannot imagine not going to Paris or carrying my camera out of some fear.

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Apr 14, 2022 18:17:32   #
gitano48 Loc: Houston
 
Nice gear, but as you travel you might eventually find it heavy and cumbersome. Specially if you're walking which you will probably do a lot. I've been to Europe several times during the last few years and taken a lot of pix. Never taken more than a compact SLR or DSLR with a mid-range zoom. In fact, the last trip I took I used a Canon PowerShot w/25x optical zoom and it worked out very well...in my pocket and hands free. However, that may not be suitable enough for your needs or expectations on your trip.
As far as safety in Paris goes, no problems at all as long as you stay alert of your surroundings...same as any other major city. Just ask the Japanese tourists with ~$5K worth of equipment hanging from their necks. And yes, in Paris you will be walking a lot - best way to see that beautiful city.
Have a great trip.

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Apr 14, 2022 18:45:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Fear of the unknown is a terrible fear.

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Apr 15, 2022 12:24:40   #
rcscruffy
 
Pickpocket got my wallet from my front pocket. I recommend a steel cable locked to the walled and around your waist.

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Apr 15, 2022 12:42:35   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
gitano48 wrote:
Just ask the Japanese tourists with ~$5K worth of equipment hanging from their necks.


Japanese tourists often (but not always) travel in groups. I can see an element of safety in that.

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