Bought a used D500 to improve on my d7100. First day noticed the difference right away. Also noticed that Auto-ISO usually sets much lower values for a given shot than the D7100, and high ISO shots have less noise.
My D500 as well as the D7200 underexpose but I believe the D500 more so and it seems to make no difference which exposure mode I use. Of course exposure compensation takes care of that but the amount of compensation needed is not the same for every image. A little underexposure is fine but too much introduces noise when lightening the image in post processing.
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JRiepe wrote:
My D500 as well as the D7200 underexpose but I believe the D500 more so and it seems to make no difference which exposure mode I use. Of course exposure compensation takes care of that but the amount of compensation needed is not the same for every image. A little underexposure is fine but too much introduces noise when lightening the image in post processing.
Neither the D500 or D7200 should underexpose. If they are both doing it, I am sorry to say, sounds more like piolet error than equipment failure.
You may want to really pay attention to what you are shooting, matrix metering is always a good thing. Next time your out, with the sun behind you, take a reading in Manual of the green grass in front of you. Green grass reflects about the same amount of light as a gray card, Close enough anyway to check your reading.
Now raise the camera and take an image, it should be perfectly exposed, or very close.
Next, with the camera on matrix metering in say aperture priority, take an image of the lawn with the sun coming in over your shoulder.
If, under either conditions, your shots are under exposed, then call Nikon at 1-800-645-6687 and ask for tech support.
Or, the next time your in Palm Beach county in Florida give me a private message and I can help you out with a free lesson.
I have had a D500 for several years now. The feature I really like is its low light ability. I carry a speedlite in my bag, but I can't remember the last time I used it indoors or out. Have fun with this great camera, probably the best APC sensor in any camera!
billnikon wrote:
Neither the D500 or D7200 should underexpose. If they are both doing it, I am sorry to say, sounds more like piolet error than equipment failure.
You may want to really pay attention to what you are shooting, matrix metering is always a good thing. Next time your out, with the sun behind you, take a reading in Manual of the green grass in front of you. Green grass reflects about the same amount of light as a gray card, Close enough anyway to check your reading.
Now raise the camera and take an image, it should be perfectly exposed, or very close.
Next, with the camera on matrix metering in say aperture priority, take an image of the lawn with the sun coming in over your shoulder.
If, under either conditions, your shots are under exposed, then call Nikon at 1-800-645-6687 and ask for tech support.
Or, the next time your in Palm Beach county in Florida give me a private message and I can help you out with a free lesson.
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I agree that it's pilot error. For exposure the camera is in auto pilot so the camera is the pilot. I shoot macro in manual exposure mode but all other shots are left up to the camera except when I adjust exposure compensation.
scsdesphotography wrote:
I have had a D500 for several years now. The feature I really like is its low light ability. I carry a speedlite in my bag, but I can't remember the last time I used it indoors or out. Have fun with this great camera, probably the best APC sensor in any camera!
Thank you. Every Summer Mississippi kites circle overhead by my house and locating them through the viewfinder of my D7200 was nearly impossible but now with this camera I should be able to nail them.
JRiepe wrote:
My D500 as well as the D7200 underexpose but I believe the D500 more so and it seems to make no difference which exposure mode I use. Of course exposure compensation takes care of that but the amount of compensation needed is not the same for every image. A little underexposure is fine but too much introduces noise when lightening the image in post processing.
I did notice more underexposure on my first time out with the D500. Still have a lot to learn.
parmruss wrote:
I did notice more underexposure on my first time out with the D500. Still have a lot to learn.
Darrell Young writes books on mastering the different Nikon cameras. In paperback I have Mastering the Nikon D7000 and D7200 but I purchased the Mastering the Nikon D500 in Kindle form and have it downloaded on my tablet which is more convenient since I'll always have my tablet with me when I'm out of town. Two other advantages is price and no waiting for it to arrive.
parmruss wrote:
I did notice more underexposure on my first time out with the D500. Still have a lot to learn.
Steve at Backcountry Gallery has a awesome book on the metering system and the autofocus system. Along with a few other things. The autofocus system book was a game changer for myself.
JRiepe wrote:
Approximately three weeks ago I received a new Nikon D500 and posted on this forum the focusing issues I was having with it. I will say it locks on focus rapidly with most subjects but has problems with others. For instance yesterday morning it was having a problem with locking on focus on a sparrow on the ground. BUT here's the great news: it is performing perfectly and even exceeding my expectations on the type of shots I purchased it for and that is birds in flight. With my D7200 I was having a problem locating birds in flight looking through the viewfinder which was very frustrating but with the D500 focus locks on instantly once that bird is in the viewfinder area. Evidently with the D7200 once the bird was in the viewfinder area it would be out of that area before the camera had time to focus. In my opinion the image quality from the D500 is no better than from the D7200 but I'm okay with that because that was not my reason for purchasing it. My decision to purchase the D500 came from a trip a friend and I took to Reelfoot Lake in Tennessee to photograph bald eagles. She was shooting with a Canon 80D and was having absolutely no problem locating them through the viewfinder as they were in flight whereas I was struggling. I thought perhaps the reason for that was the increased light hitting her sensor from her f/2.8 lens so I started researching lenses but didn't want to spend thousands of dollars on a faster lens so decided to go with the D500 to see if that was any better and fortunately it is. Shooting birds in flight now is a pleasure instead of a frustrating struggle.
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Never had an issue with exposures while using my D500. I shoot manual I have mapped the PV button to Spot meter, FN1 to Group AF. I run Spot AF normally. With the changing light I encounter while trying to capture BIF the Spot Meter helps get the exposure right!
JRiepe wrote:
My D500 as well as the D7200 underexpose but I believe the D500 more so and it seems to make no difference which exposure mode I use. Of course exposure compensation takes care of that but the amount of compensation needed is not the same for every image. A little underexposure is fine but too much introduces noise when lightening the image in post processing.
What metering mode are you using? I have two D500s that I've been using for several years, and the only way either one will underexpose is if an inappropriate metering mode is selected. Matrix metering can be problematic in some outdoor environments, and if you happen to have Highlight Weighted Metering engaged, your images will look underexposed in some situations as well. Active D Lighting can also produce unexpected results if used at extreme levels without understanding of how it works.
Let us know some more details and perhaps post an unedited image or two that you feel aren't correct.
I use either spot or center weighted metering knowing this mode is supposed to measure the light coming off the subject. I've never used the highlight weighted metering as that would be adding to the underexposure of the subject. I don't understand how incorrect exposure could be operator error when it's the camera making the decision. Can lenses be a determination? I've used only the Tamrom 150-600mm G2 lens on it. Perhaps with a different lens I would be getting correct exposure.
JRiepe wrote:
I use either spot or center weighted metering knowing this mode is supposed to measure the light coming off the subject. I've never used the highlight weighted metering as that would be adding to the underexposure of the subject. I don't understand how incorrect exposure could be operator error when it's the camera making the decision. Can lenses be a determination? I've used only the Tamrom 150-600mm G2 lens on it. Perhaps with a different lens I would be getting correct exposure.
Yes it is supposed to in spot or center weighted metering. The spot is almost impossible to keep on a bif. For most of my bif is shot manuel with auto ISO and matrix metering. If it's bright out I'll set ISO to 100 and overexpose by a stop or so. It will blow the sky but the bird will be good. I also shoot in raw so I can edit the shadows if need be and dim the sky in post if needed. I try not to shoot bif against the sky. It's just boring to myself. Matrix works great for me if not against a barren sky. I personally find it almost impossible to use spot metering on a bif.
JRiepe wrote:
I use either spot or center weighted metering knowing this mode is supposed to measure the light coming off the subject. I've never used the highlight weighted metering as that would be adding to the underexposure of the subject. I don't understand how incorrect exposure could be operator error when it's the camera making the decision. Can lenses be a determination? I've used only the Tamrom 150-600mm G2 lens on it. Perhaps with a different lens I would be getting correct exposure.
The size of the center weighted area is adjustable. If it is set too large, it may be reading more of the sky than you realize, which will bias your image toward underexposure. I do not shoot birds in flight, so I do not want to present myself as an expert. But my experience with other sorts of images would make me suspect that could be the problem. Also...the "spot" used in spot metering is larger than you might expect. It is approximately 4-6mm as recall (I don't have my manual right now), which is about a sixth to a quarter of the width of the frame...very different from using a dedicated hand-held spot meter with a one degree spot.
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
Yes it is supposed to in spot or center weighted metering. The spot is almost impossible to keep on a bif. For most of my bif is shot manuel with auto ISO and matrix metering. If it's bright out I'll set ISO to 100 and overexpose by a stop or so. It will blow the sky but the bird will be good. I also shoot in raw so I can edit the shadows if need be and dim the sky in post if needed. I try not to shoot bif against the sky. It's just boring to myself. Matrix works great for me if not against a barren sky. I personally find it almost impossible to use spot metering on a bif.
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I don't use spot metering for BIF and I do shoot in RAW. Also when shooting BIF with a bright sky as background I will increase the exposure compensation usually by 1.3 or 1.7 but have gone as high as 2.0.
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