Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
Buffering
Page <prev 2 of 2
Mar 27, 2022 17:23:24   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
TriX wrote:
If the WiFi (and the source) is fast enough, no buffering is required. If the speed varies, buffering occurs, and if the speed is consistently too slow, buffering can’t fix the issue. It’s implemented to address intermittent/marginal/temporary bandwidth issues.


I understand that. The issue I have is the memory or buffer in the television is not enough to keep the video running. I have only this TV that buffers. Even my 65in Samsung doesn't buffer. It was a odd issue that took me a bit to figure out because it's very odd. It's like the buffer in your camera. My tv buffer fills and then plays the video. It's not an issue getting the info to the TV. It's the buffer in the TV is not large enough to hold enough data to keep the video smooth. Non of my other TVs have this issue.

Reply
Mar 27, 2022 17:35:23   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
I understand that. The issue I have is the memory or buffer in the television is not enough to keep the video running. I have only this TV that buffers. Even my 65in Samsung doesn't buffer. It was a odd issue that took me a bit to figure out because it's very odd. It's like the buffer in your camera. My tv buffer fills and then plays the video. It's not an issue getting the info to the TV. It's the buffer in the TV is not large enough to hold enough data to keep the video smooth. Non of my other TVs have this issue.
I understand that. The issue I have is the memory ... (show quote)


I take your point as well. My point was that if the TV has enough video BW and CPU power to render the stream, a buffer wouldn’t matter.

Reply
Mar 27, 2022 23:23:01   #
killroy
 
My 65” Vizio also the same. 55” Vizio is better but still has issues with buffering

Reply
 
 
Mar 28, 2022 00:51:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
killroy wrote:
About 3 yrs ago I joined the herd that “cut the cord” and got rid of cable. At the time, had Dish, dropped from $120 to $55, and picked Hulu to watch. My issue is the constant buffering (screen freezing). Have read up on the routers and the differences between them. Last one I tried gave me slight improvement, but still can be maddening. My house is moderate size (1260 sq ft) and the router is just down the hall. Any tips, tricks? Do signal boosters help! Is it my tv?


Internet provider speed is the largest variable affecting buffering. We have 120 Mbps download and 12 Mbps upload, as measured by SpeedTest. So long as we have around that combination of speeds, we have no buffering.

The other variables include the speed of the router (the 5 GHz band is potentially much faster than the 2.4 GHz band), the distance from the source (use the 2.4 GHz band for best distance), the various substances in the line of sight from the router to the playback device, (5 GHz gets stopped sooner by floors and walls and large appliances or furniture) and the power settings on the router, if variable. Signal-to-Noise Ratio is also important, and is largely affected by the number of WiFi transceivers in the neighborhood, along with other microwave signaling systems.

Our router has independently variable output on both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. We are in a congested neighborhood with a three story house, so I set both to full power. The router is in the center of the house on the third floor. We can get buffer-less playback everywhere in the house and yard. Only in one corner of the basement is the signal prone to buffering issues, but only with certain older devices. I can sit in my shed on the back corner of the lot and still watch videos on my phone.

Spend some time with your router manual and understand your options. It is definitely worth understanding how to configure it for maximum performance. You want the bottleneck to be the ISP, not your router.

I set our router to reboot once a day at 3:00 AM. This seems to help clear out various crud. It also forces everything to refresh connections, usually a good thing. dd

If you have old AT&T "digital subscriber line service," over POTS (plain old telephone service lines) may the gods of Internet have mercy on your hardware!

We are using a cable company provider now, but with 17 Internet-connected devices in the house, we will soon move to a local fiber Internet service for 500 Mbps down and 500 Mbps upload speeds.

Reply
Mar 30, 2022 08:35:36   #
fhayes Loc: Madison, Tennessee
 
chrissybabe wrote:
The impression is that you use wireless on your router to connect to your TV ?
The worst thing any household can do is to use wireless for anything (I know that there are some things that you must use wireless for). My house has everything connected via 1GB cable and switches. Any laptops that need access (our ones anyway) we connect via a wired port. Over a 1GB cable nothing takes long to connect. In saying that since we have a fiber connection I do see 500MB wireless speeds the odd time I bother to check. Take the wireless away and so will your internet problems disappear.
Follow TriX's advice above to make a start anyway.
The impression is that you use wireless on your ro... (show quote)


just for fun-I had an issue with at&t a while back. They insisted that my problem was wireless and that I needed and 'extender' between the router and the modem. I reminded them that I was using a wire cable to my router that was within 2' of the computer. The next question was about trying it without the cable, just try it wireless. Of course, at&t asked me to reset between setups. They didn't agree that it was the router, they just offered to send one to appease me. That worked although they can't understand why!

Reply
Mar 30, 2022 13:07:59   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
burkphoto wrote:
....If you have old AT&T "digital subscriber line service," over POTS (plain old telephone service lines) may the gods of Internet have mercy on your hardware!.....
When you mentioned the infamous 'Twisted Pair' it reminded me of the old battles I used to have between my ISP & GTE. They always blamed each other and it was always GTE that was at fault.
I personally knew the engineer at my ISP. It got to the point where he would call GTE with me on a 3 way call. GTE always said my wiring was bad.
I said, 'I had you pull a new pair in specifically for this DSL line.
'Silence', then 'Oh, well your line do not qualify for 768.'
I would say, 'It has been working fine for 7 months until last night.'
GTE would then tell me to contact my ISP.
My engineer friend would them chime in, 'We have pulled and replaced the users DSLAM and freshly rewired it. The problem is on your side GTE.
Their response was always the same, 'We'll look into it.'
Magically, I would have full bandwidth within 24 hours.

I have a friend who purchased a deeply rural ranch in northwestern Nevada. Internet service is satellite or nothing.
He has a POTS line. AT&T said they would try to supply DSL but he was 165,000ft from the CO, so they could not guarantee any connectivity greater than 5k at the most.

I remember moving from a 14.4k to 56k modem and thought the world had just landed on my doorstep.

Here I am now on FIOS with 1gig up/down. How easily we forget.

Reply
Mar 30, 2022 13:55:08   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BBurns wrote:
When you mentioned the infamous 'Twisted Pair' it reminded me of the old battles I used to have between my ISP & GTE. They always blamed each other and it was always GTE that was at fault.
I personally knew the engineer at my ISP. It got to the point where he would call GTE with me on a 3 way call. GTE always said my wiring was bad.
I said, 'I had you pull a new pair in specifically for this DSL line.
'Silence', then 'Oh, well your line do not qualify for 768.'
I would say, 'It has been working fine for 7 months until last night.'
GTE would then tell me to contact my ISP.
My engineer friend would them chime in, 'We have pulled and replaced the users DSLAM and freshly rewired it. The problem is on your side GTE.
Their response was always the same, 'We'll look into it.'
Magically, I would have full bandwidth within 24 hours.

I have a friend who purchased a deeply rural ranch in northwestern Nevada. Internet service is satellite or nothing.
He has a POTS line. AT&T said they would try to supply DSL but he was 165,000ft from the CO, so they could not guarantee any connectivity greater than 5k at the most.

I remember moving from a 14.4k to 56k modem and thought the world had just landed on my doorstep.

Here I am now on FIOS with 1gig up/down. How easily we forget.
When you mentioned the infamous 'Twisted Pair' it ... (show quote)


Yep. POTS is the pits. We dropped our land line eight years ago and don't miss a thing. My parents had DSL a decade or so ago before they died. It was horrible. Speeds ranged from not working to about half the advertised speeds.

Reply
 
 
Mar 31, 2022 11:10:26   #
mikeglaw
 
killroy wrote:
About 3 yrs ago I joined the herd that “cut the cord” and got rid of cable. At the time, had Dish, dropped from $120 to $55, and picked Hulu to watch. My issue is the constant buffering (screen freezing). Have read up on the routers and the differences between them. Last one I tried gave me slight improvement, but still can be maddening. My house is moderate size (1260 sq ft) and the router is just down the hall. Any tips, tricks? Do signal boosters help! Is it my tv?


Sounds like a speed issue. for a 4k tv, the minimum speed is 12mbs. The buffering is due to a lack of data, forcing your tv to buffer. Wifi will work fine if you have the right speed.

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 2
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.