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Mar 16, 2022 09:31:43   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
RichieC wrote:
Keystone deal was for a pipe next to the existing one that would double the capacity. There are pipelines that crisscross the entire nation, this was one that would negate having to ship the oil in other ways, like rail or land, that are much more dangerous.

(See attached map of hazardous liquid pipeline in the US today-Source: https://pipeline101.org/topic/where-are-liquid-pipelines-located/)

What the importance of President Biteme's shutting it down , was highly indicative of his war on domestic fossil fuel producers. HE said he was going to shut them down, and he did.Pretending he didn't does not change anything.

NOW he begs Saudi Arabia to increase production, tried to keep billions of dollars flowing into a belligerent country like Russia, only stopping after being forced to, and has opened talks with outwardly belligerent a nd committed enemies of Americans everywhere - Iran and Venezuela into buying oil from them, who follow no environmental laws other than those they find convenient... and once again we are funding our enemies.

Once he showed his hand into how the US government would administer the oncoming appearance or potential sources of domestic oil, those outside our borders were sent the message that they could charge whatever they wish... that their markets were no longer in jeopardy of having US competition to deal with.

Thats how free markets work- they were giving their oil away to keep us out of their game. Because that is all many of them have to sell. And they can't have us entering the market. But they can set the rules when there is no threat.

You can also see how other governments react to weak wristed foreign relations- they do what they wish... SO we get invasion and potential WW3 as well as high fuel costs and inflation, and cities we can't walk the streets in safely... ... some president, some leftist agenda.

He is the very meaning of feckless, and even those of us who knew this would happen, have to pay for it.
Keystone deal was for a pipe next to the existing... (show quote)


Fancy words that mean nothing. The Keystone was never designed to carry American fuel. It was another’s country fuel using our land, and potentially spilling on our land. It travelled through Indian land and thru American rivers.

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Mar 16, 2022 09:39:54   #
Triple G
 
RichieC wrote:
Keystone deal was for a pipe next to the existing one that would double the capacity. There are pipelines that crisscross the entire nation, this was one that would negate having to ship the oil in other ways, like rail or land, that are much more dangerous.

(See attached map of hazardous liquid pipeline in the US today-Source: https://pipeline101.org/topic/where-are-liquid-pipelines-located/)

What the importance of President Biteme's shutting it down , was highly indicative of his war on domestic fossil fuel producers. HE said he was going to shut them down, and he did.Pretending he didn't does not change anything.

NOW he begs Saudi Arabia to increase production, tried to keep billions of dollars flowing into a belligerent country like Russia, only stopping after being forced to, and has opened talks with outwardly belligerent a nd committed enemies of Americans everywhere - Iran and Venezuela into buying oil from them, who follow no environmental laws other than those they find convenient... and once again we are funding our enemies.

Once he showed his hand into how the US government would administer the oncoming appearance or potential sources of domestic oil, those outside our borders were sent the message that they could charge whatever they wish... that their markets were no longer in jeopardy of having US competition to deal with.

Thats how free markets work- they were giving their oil away to keep us out of their game. Because that is all many of them have to sell. And they can't have us entering the market. But they can set the rules when there is no threat.

You can also see how other governments react to weak wristed foreign relations- they do what they wish... SO we get invasion and potential WW3 as well as high fuel costs and inflation, and cities we can't walk the streets in safely... ... some president, some leftist agenda.

He is the very meaning of feckless, and even those of us who knew this would happen, have to pay for it.
Keystone deal was for a pipe next to the existing... (show quote)


I’d like your opinions on the specifics of Biden’s policy implemented so far. I posted all of them in different thread, but I’ll be glad to post them again.

Should fossil fuel companies be getting subsidies in light of their increasing profit percentages?
Should fossil fuel drilling and fracking continue where it is harmful to the environment?

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Mar 16, 2022 10:27:53   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
scooter1 wrote:
Maybe the research should be on your part Frank Stick this in your pipe and smoke it. I would say the same, do some research before you make yourself look even dumber. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/apr/16/kirsten-gillibrand/will-oil-keystone-xl-pipeline-stay-us/nk.


First off your link leads nowhere and you get a message that it doesn't exist. So, you either made it up or you were duped. Here's some questions about the XL Pipeline.

1. What kind of oil would the Keystone xl pipeline carry?
2. What is Tar Sand Oil used for?
3. Does processing Tar Sand Oil cause triple the pollution that crude oil does?
4. Here's an actual link that works. If you read it, you will become smarter:
https://www.labor4sustainability.org/articles/5-reasons-why-the-keystone-pipeline-is-bad-for-the-economy/

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Mar 16, 2022 11:35:51   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
When Trump left office I was paying $1.87/gal today under biden I paid $4.48. Seems pretty easy to figure out.

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Mar 16, 2022 11:44:15   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
When Trump left office I was paying $1.87/gal today under biden I paid $4.48. Seems pretty easy to figure out.


So you give trump credit for the $1.87, good thinking. Easy to figure out for you.

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Mar 16, 2022 11:51:52   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
It's a elementary fact, mjmoore 17.

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Mar 16, 2022 11:57:30   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
scooter1 wrote:
https://rightandfree.com/news/2022/03/13/the-truth-of-keystone-xls-impact-on-gas-prices?utm_campaign=s&p&utm_source=s&p-20220315&utm_medium=email


It's my understanding that the keystone pipeline would have pumped oil to the gulf coast for transport to other countries.

How does that help the USA and how does not having said pipeline effect gas prices?

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Mar 16, 2022 11:57:50   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
It's a elementary fact, mjmoore 17.


It was snowing last week, it is 70 degrees now. Biden is president. Do you think he was responsible for the snow or 70 degrees. It’s an elementary fact.

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Mar 16, 2022 12:00:57   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
It's a elementary fact, mjmoore 17.


So this week the price of oil fell 30%, yet the price of gasoline has gone up.
But in your world, this has nothing to do with corporate greed and the President controls oil prices.
BTW - Do you recall that during the GW Bush administration, gasoline was more than $4.00 per gallon?
Or was it your belief then that the President had nothing to do with the price of oil?
Did you ever stop to think that the reason that gasoline was so cheap during the end of the Trump administration was directly connected to the lack of demand for the product as COVID19 swept unchecked through the country because Fat Donny thought it was fake?
Please answer because I'd love to read your logic.

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Mar 16, 2022 12:39:24   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Frank T wrote:
First off your link leads nowhere and you get a message that it doesn't exist. So, you either made it up or you were duped. Here's some questions about the XL Pipeline.

1. What kind of oil would the Keystone xl pipeline carry?
2. What is Tar Sand Oil used for?
3. Does processing Tar Sand Oil cause triple the pollution that crude oil does?
4. Here's an actual link that works. If you read it, you will become smarter:
https://www.labor4sustainability.org/articles/5-reasons-why-the-keystone-pipeline-is-bad-for-the-economy/
First off your link leads nowhere and you get a me... (show quote)


Tar sands extraction emits up to three times more global warming pollution than does producing the same quantity of conventional crude. It also depletes and pollutes freshwater resources and creates giant ponds of toxic waste.

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Mar 16, 2022 12:53:10   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The fact that biden curtailed energy production in the US is indisputable. And this started cay 1 of his presidency. So, therefore, at least part of gas price increases are bidens doing. Certainly Russias invasion has has an effect also. How much is one or another is impossible to know. But Biden can vastly lower the price of gas with ONE change in his policy. And in one sentence. Drill baby DRILL. Inother words unleash American industry. And then promise to cease ALL oil importation within 6 months. And if he would do this, I;m willing to bet serious money the price of gas would return to under 3 bucks/gallon in thos e 6 months, and maybe under 2.50

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Mar 16, 2022 12:59:16   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
scooter1 wrote:
https://rightandfree.com/news/2022/03/13/the-truth-of-keystone-xls-impact-on-gas-prices?utm_campaign=s&p&utm_source=s&p-20220315&utm_medium=email


Good points Scooter. And right on cue, dirtpusher and the rest started circling around like annoying yippy little dogs with impacted anal glands. It is about the closet they get to social interaction.

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Mar 16, 2022 13:00:10   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
boberic wrote:
The fact that biden curtailed energy production in the US is indisputable. And this started cay 1 of his presidency. So, therefore, at least part of gas price increases are bidens doing. Certainly Russias invasion has has an effect also. How much is one or another is impossible to know. But Biden can vastly lower the price of gas with ONE change in his policy. And in one sentence. Drill baby DRILL. Inother words unleash American industry. And then promise to cease ALL oil importation within 6 months. And if he would do this, I;m willing to bet serious money the price of gas would return to under 3 bucks/gallon in thos e 6 months, and maybe under 2.50
The fact that biden curtailed energy production in... (show quote)


Hey Bobo, do you REALLY think that oil companies are going to drill more wells, pump more oil to be refined into CHEAPER gas, lower gas prices to benefit US residents, AND give up OBSCENE PROFITS? No way.

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Mar 16, 2022 13:02:46   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
Good points Scooter. And right on cue, dirtpusher and the rest started circling around like annoying yippy little dogs with impacted anal glands. It is about the closet they get to social interaction.


Lol look like your làying in your own poo

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Mar 16, 2022 13:17:57   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Maybe it has to do with the decline of the value of the dollar world wide

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