Mondolinni wrote:
Hello Folks,
I'm asking for any opinions that may offer some help in perhaps purchasing a lens to be used for indoor sports.
mostly Grandkids school basketball/other events.
I'm shooting Nikon D500 with the 16-80 2.8-4
I was looking for something with more reach and fast enough for the indoor lighting; without flash obviously.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
I know Nikon costs could be a factor, but maybe another manufacturer could be an option. ??
Thanks,
Frank
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You simply want lenses with the largest aperture possible.
70-200mm f/2.8 zooms are common, but relatively large, heavy and somewhat pricey.
And f/2.8 may not be enough for indoor sports. Mostly this would mean primes instead of zooms.
However,
Sigma 50-100mm f/1.8 ($1000) may be a versatile zoom option... 1.3 stops faster than f/2.8. And it has fast "HSM" (ultrasonic) autofocus drive, which is also important when shooting sports. 100mm telephoto on an APS-C camera may be sufficient for basketball.
85mm f/2, 85mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/1.4 are available from several manufacturers. The latter offer two full stops better than f/2.8 (4X as much light), but tend to be rather large and expensive. Currently Nikkors are probably your best bet, if you want to buy new. Yongnuo and Rokinon are offering less expensive, but I haven't used them, don't know what type of autofocus drive they use or how quick it is. If you consider them, do research about their AF performance (and buy from someone who accepts returns if you are dissatisfied). I believe previously both Sigma and Tamron have offered some fast 85mm with ultrasonic AF drive (AF-S in Nikkors, USD in Tamron, HSM in Sigma). They no longer appear to be offering these new, but they might be found used.
There also have been various
100mm f/2, 105mm f/1.4, 135mm f/2, 135mm f/1.8, 135mm f/1.4 and even 200mm f/2 offered by various manufacturers. Some are available new... many can be found used.
Honestly, so long as you can get reasonably close to the sidelines of a basketball court (or anything similar) you will probably never need longer than 135mm and might even be happy with less. That's good because a 200mm f/2 is very expensive, as well as big and heavy. Shop around for any of the 100mm to 135mm, if interested... Just be sure to look for fast-focusing lenses (ultrasonic... such as AF-S Nikkors, HSM Sigmas and USD Tamrons). Larger apertures also generally make for better AF performance. But even using fast ultrasonic some ultra large aperture lenses have deliberately slower AF... "long throw" designs that emphasize accuracy over speed (because of the shallow depth of field potential of the big aperture). For football and baseball fields 200mm, 300mm and sometimes even longer can be useful. But so long as you are able to get to the sidelines to shoot, except for hockey those longer focal lengths aren't necessary for most types of indoor sports. BTW, it's better to get on the sidelines shooting from the same level as the players, anyway. Shooting down from above sitting up in the bleachers makes for lousy shots. Shoot from the same level as the players... or even lower for really dramatic shots!
Whatever you settle on, get the largest aperture you can.... as much as you can afford and are willing to haul around. Bigger apertures will allow you to use reasonable ISOs and shutter speeds fast enough to stop the action under gym lighting. One thing you have to watch for, especially when the action comes close, is too-shallow depth of field. However, the benefits of the larger aperture outweigh any concerns.
EDIT:
By the way, in case you don't know, your D500 has an "Anti Flicker" feature that will be a big help shooting under gym lighting. Often gyms and arenas use types of lighting that cycle on and off rapidly, 60 hertz in the US and some other countries, 50 hz in still other countries. This causes a lot of problems with under-exposure. In the past the only way to deal with it was to use a slow shutter speed... but that doesn't work for sports where you need a faster shutter speed. That left us simply taking lots and lots of extra shots, because we knew many would have under-exposure problems, a lot of which would be too far gone to correct in post-processing (especially if shooting JPEGs instead of RAW, which has more latitude for adjustments).
Anti-Flicker solves this problem by detecting the light cycling on and off and timing each shutter release to the light's peak output. I use a similar feature on my Canon cameras and can tell you it works very well. Where I used to see half or more of my images shot "under the lights" have some under-exposure issues... I now see almost none when shooting in the exact same venue.
When I first got cameras with this feature I was concerned that it would cause timing issues when shooting sports... unwanted shutter lag causing me to miss the peak moments I was trying to capture. However in practice I barely notice this feature doing its job. Every once in a great while I might notice a slight pause and sometimes that makes me miss a shot. But those problems are quite rare and the benefits of this feature are so great I ALWAYS use it when shooting "under the lights". Highly recommended! I wouldn't shoot indoor sports without it anymore. (I have two cameras with it, and two without... indoors under gym/arena lightign I don't use the cameras that don't have it).