Sure, you have also seen similar headlines & read comparable articles:
PS: Served 4yrs in the Marine Corps
"Some Russian Troops are Surrendering or Sabotaging Vehicles, Pentagon Official Says"
My thoughts:
Professionally trained Armies such as some of my US favorites --
All three Marine Divisions & 82nd Airborne Just go in & get the damn job done -- No matter be it morally right or terribly wrong --
Draft Armies often reflect what their Country's Citizen's actual feelings are about the conflict ----
ken_stern wrote:
Sure, you have also seen similar headlines & read comparable articles:
PS: Served 4yrs in the Marine Corps
"Some Russian Troops are Surrendering or Sabotaging Vehicles, Pentagon Official Says"
My thoughts:
Professionally trained Armies such as some of my US favorites --
All three Marine Divisions & 82nd Airborne Just go in & get the damn job done -- No matter be it morally right or terribly wrong --
Draft Armies often reflect what their Country's Citizen's actual feelings are about the conflict ----
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Not sure about the draft-ruined my life at the time.
I agree that going in with an airborne division after some judicious Air Force bombing-the Ruskies would not do well at all!
ken_stern wrote:
Sure, you have also seen similar headlines & read comparable articles:
PS: Served 4yrs in the Marine Corps
"Some Russian Troops are Surrendering or Sabotaging Vehicles, Pentagon Official Says"
My thoughts:
Professionally trained Armies such as some of my US favorites --
All three Marine Divisions & 82nd Airborne Just go in & get the damn job done -- No matter be it morally right or terribly wrong --
Draft Armies often reflect what their Country's Citizen's actual feelings are about the conflict ----
Sure, you have also seen similar headlines & r... (
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The problem is the fat cats that get us into wars use loopholes to keep their kids out. Draft their kids so they have some skin in the game, then see what they do.
I was drafted in 1971. I was a good soldier. I think compulsory service is a good thing for all young people. Not necessarily in the military.
The difference is that the Russian troops are being forced to invade another country for no good reason, while the Ukrainians are defending their homeland
Shellback
Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
kpmac wrote:
I was drafted in 1971. I was a good soldier. I think compulsory service is a good thing for all young people. Not necessarily in the military.
I agree... If everyone did 2 years of some type of service - but away from home by at least 500 miles - they would meet other folks from other places and learn there is a world outside of their own - they would also become a little more mature... Run them through a boot camp and let them live in the barracks... They could pick a field; peace corp - medical - carpentry - utilities - transportation - air - ground - water - or some/all of them - or go into the military - their choice - but mandatory for all when they turn 18 (if they fog a mirror when they breathe on it, they qualify). Base pay similar to recruits in the service - enough to live on but not live like a celebrity. Kick in some $$ for education when they finish up or stay in and get training in the field they want (if there are opening and they qualify).
Some say we can't do this - it's not fair to them... I say it will let them grow and mature while doing something positive with their life. After the 2 years, they can choose to stay or leave but they will at least have a different outlook on life - and hopefully a more positive one - and the big plus for the majority, the cord is cut and they realize they can survive in the great big scary world on their own...
Shellback wrote:
I agree... If everyone did 2 years of some type of service - but away from home by at least 500 miles - they would meet other folks from other places and learn there is a world outside of their own - they would also become a little more mature... Run them through a boot camp and let them live in the barracks... They could pick a field; peace corp - medical - carpentry - utilities - transportation - air - ground - water - or some/all of them - or go into the military - their choice - but mandatory for all when they turn 18 (if they fog a mirror when they breathe on it, they qualify). Base pay similar to recruits in the service - enough to live on but not live like a celebrity. Kick in some $$ for education when they finish up or stay in and get training in the field they want (if there are opening and they qualify).
Some say we can't do this - it's not fair to them... I say it will let them grow and mature while doing something positive with their life. After the 2 years, they can choose to stay or leave but they will at least have a different outlook on life - and hopefully a more positive one - and the big plus for the majority, the cord is cut and they realize they can survive in the great big scary world on their own...
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Well said. The Army experience made me grow up fast.
Agreed, I matured 10 years on my first day in Marine boot camp.
This has always been a good idea, for both the individual and the country. Yet, it will probably never happen...too much freedom and too little responsibility.
Strategic Air Command, myself.
I'll bet a few A-10s could solve that 40 mile Russian vehicle traffic jam.
From what I know, the military does not have enough billets to accommodate all the young men and women of the nation. In addition, not all youngsters qualify for the military. Further, the military has moved its forces more to special operations to accomplish military objectives, not requiring armies on the ground. The make-up of the military has become more complicated than before.
That said, I joined the U.S. Navy at age 17, effectively still a kid. Five years later, I exited a young man with a broader view of life.
I can recommend serving in the military for youngsters who will benefit from the experience of this occupation. Besides, serving one's country presents a most worthy direction for a citizen.
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