Hospital Photography
Feb 28, 2022 13:52:13 #
Would they charge you if you needed their services as a patient? Do they pay for everything else they get? I'll bet they never get freebies. At least let them cover ALL of your expenses and perhaps let them know they are getting a bargain and ask them if they would recommend you to doctors who might like photos in their waiting rooms or even to other hospitals...then charge all the others as most photographers would.
Feb 28, 2022 13:56:56 #
Jklovell wrote:
I’m a nurse and a part time landscape photographer... (show quote)
Dear Jklovell,
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Feb 28, 2022 14:16:57 #
This makes the most sense to me. There is no reason why expenses should come out of your pocket. I kind of think they should at least offer to pay, and I don't envy having bring it up but expenses are a very reasonable thing to ask about.
Feb 28, 2022 14:23:06 #
JKaye
Loc: Chicago
As newsguygeorge (above) mentioned, you can put a price tag on each and offer them for sale. You can keep the original SDcard so that you can have them reproduced easily at a professional house. In addition, you can make small packages of note cards and all of these should be available. Re charging the hospital, offer them for sale at a discount - 20% for example so that they feel that it works for their benefit as well. Good luck.
Feb 28, 2022 14:55:17 #
knutte wrote:
Charge them well! Hospitals are making so much money these days. My "non-profit" hospital had board of directors approve a $12 million bonus for our CEO while he's still making $2 mil a year. All while the rest of us clinical people taking care of patients can barely afford to live. We can't hire any people because the pay is so poor compared to how expensive it is to live here in my town.
No offense, but "hospitals are making so much money these days..." is a gross over-generalization. There is a great variation in hospital incomes, particularly after the COVID pandemic. Many hospitals in small communities have closed because they could not bear the financial burden. Others, in major cities have substantial income and pay their executives well.
With regard to the nurse who wrote in, I would agree that whatever the financial condition of the hospital in which he works, at the very least, he should be reimbursed for all his out-of-pocket expenses. I can't imagine that the hospital administration would be offended if he requests that type of reimbursement.
Feb 28, 2022 14:58:10 #
In some situations it is forbidden/illegal to be paid twice by same employer, i.e., Federal jobs at least at Agriculture.
Personally, if the photos are to be credited to you at the display, might be a great way to get requests, etc.
I would provide what I could with what I have, but would think twice twice before spending lots of money for big prints, framing, etc. unless I was an executive already making $$$$$$$. Just provide what you can and if asked, say it can be done, but I don't have the equipment or such.
Personally, if the photos are to be credited to you at the display, might be a great way to get requests, etc.
I would provide what I could with what I have, but would think twice twice before spending lots of money for big prints, framing, etc. unless I was an executive already making $$$$$$$. Just provide what you can and if asked, say it can be done, but I don't have the equipment or such.
Feb 28, 2022 15:02:51 #
Jklovell wrote:
I know what you mean. I AM very delighted. I wouldn’t take a dime if it would make them any less likely to use any more of my images.
I think you should ask for fair compensation, certainly to cover your ink, paper, and printer costs, or lab bill, and maybe even a little more. They are likely interested in getting free or cheap images for display or publication, and will receive some business benefits from doing so. There is little reason for you NOT to share in those benefits! Be careful not to set a precedent of providing something for nothing.
Feb 28, 2022 15:04:18 #
This entire post is getting out of hand. Making way too complicated. It’s simple. J needs to decide if he/she wants to do this at all. If so, J needs to have a conversation with the hospital to see if they are interested in a proposal for the work to be done. J needs to put a proposal together outlining goods and services to be performed. An agreement must then be reached and documented. It’s a huge undertaking and must be addressed properly to protect both sides. I have done this before and have offered assistance in putting all of this together. I have proposals like this already created addressing every aspect of the project. And, I won’t charge for this. Happy to assist.
Feb 28, 2022 15:33:27 #
Jklovell wrote:
I’m a nurse and a part time landscape photographer... (show quote)
As someone whose profession is in the arts, I think it is very important that we separate our love for our art - and love of the exposure - from what we get paid. So many non-artists have a romanticized image of the "starving artist". I am lucky enough to work in a professional orchestra - where pay and working conditions are collectively bargained. Obviously you are not within that structure for your photography - but please, do not short-change yourself. Please consider negotiating a sensible reimbursement/fee for the beauty you provide.
Feb 28, 2022 15:35:21 #
CHE
Loc: Virginia
Burkley wrote:
Instead of getting money, if you itemize on taxes ... (show quote)
You should talk with your tax person, but you do not get to deduct fair market value for things you have yourself created. All you are allowed is your actual out-of-pocket costs (paper, ink, framing, etc.). This is a common mistake. I have been treasurer of several non-profit exhibition spaces, and I have had to explain this to many people over the years. (And, as was said, this only helps you if you itemize deductions.)
Feb 28, 2022 16:01:34 #
jliane
Loc: Washington state
I gave a thumb drive of my Africa photos to my dentist to show his kids. His wife wondered if she could make some copies to hang in the reception area and she framed several and made a display that most of the patients commented on over the next years. They were made with an SX50 and edited with Picasa only. Since they were viewed from 6-8 ft, they looked great and I was thrilled to share them.
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Feb 28, 2022 17:57:04 #
One consideration is that if you print them yourself, you can get caught up in discussions with management about how to allocate costs of ink, paper, depreciation/wear&tear on your printer, etc. Those same kinds of questions can also arise from your accountant or IRS - I recall that their valuations for deducting contribution of photo’s is based on justification of Costs, not what similar items have sold for. IMO, these conversations do not add to life’s enjoyment or relationship enhancement
Sometimes a cleaner/easier way (and to save printer wear&tear) is simply to pay for prints & frame from an external source. Then you have an easy receipt to show “cost” if you choose to charge for or deduct your contributions.
Sometimes a cleaner/easier way (and to save printer wear&tear) is simply to pay for prints & frame from an external source. Then you have an easy receipt to show “cost” if you choose to charge for or deduct your contributions.
Feb 28, 2022 18:07:37 #
William Royer wrote:
One consideration is that if you print them yourse... (show quote)
I suspect that many people who have tried to deduct space, etc. in their home from working at home the last two yrs are having those conversations with IRS. I remember a case years ago where a person took a job requiring him to have a computer. IRS refused the deduction saying he could still have gone to a company site to use a computer. We blame the IRS buy all too many of us eventually try to use legal deductions in at least a less than completely legal or ethical way, so the IRS crackdowns.
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